DUST Search - Why were installations changed before a JLAV fix?

MarasdF Loron wrote:

Monkey MAC wrote:

MarasdF Loron wrote:

taxi bastard wrote:

Kin Cat wrote:

Are you guys trying to get vehicles to hate you? Infantry really didn't need the installation buff.

my personal gripe with turrets is that they used to be a WP farm - useless piliots/drivers would score very well without really doing much besides killing turrets at the start of the battle.

a turret should be stronger than the tank as its a defensive structure as opposed to a mobile platform so i see no problem with the EHP. the accuacy of the AI is maybe too strong though and thats my only gripe with how things are atm.

The only thing I don't understand is why the strongest weapon in the game is also free?

But also
cannot be moved
must be hacked first
doesn't move
must be left in vunerable posistion during
has no form of locomotion
doesn't kill infantry
incapable of movement

and is entirely immobile, I don't think I mentioned that yet have I?

Kills infantry and vehicles alike without breaking a sweat, is sturdier than any vehicle in game, is deadlier than any infantry in game, is free and doesn't move because it doesn't need to. Only downside is that you expose yourself if you are stupid with how you use it but even that is neutered by the fact that many of them are placed in the redline where you are completely out of harms way while you can just roflstomp anything with it.

Like I said, the only thing I don't understand is why it's free. Ok, fine, there are 2 other things that I don't understand about them. 1, why doesn't the railgun AI shoot? And 2, why doesn't the AI shoot at infantry? Oh, wait, that's because infantry would QQ, lol.

They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank!

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Kin Cat Another Clone in the Wall 6	Posted - 2014.09.03 03:22:00 - [1] - Quote Are you guys trying to get vehicles to hate you? Infantry really didn't need the installation buff.
MarasdF Loron Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 971	Posted - 2014.09.03 03:57:00 - [2] - Quote I'm a vehicle user and all this does is it prevents me from playing without squad when flying, and I've never seen the Jihad LAV as a problem either.
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD 296	Posted - 2014.09.03 04:23:00 - [3] - Quote They should have to reload, but apart from that I see nothing wrong with the turret buff. I would like to know where they're endless ammo comes from though? "Anybody order chaos?"
Crimson ShieId Psygod9 809	Posted - 2014.09.03 04:42:00 - [4] - Quote After the hell that was 1.7, I doubt any of the infantry really give a **** if vehicle users don't like them. Most of em probably consider the current turret rage to be payback for the misery that was militia tank spam. Shrugs Haven't had much of a problem with them myself, and people still seem determined to destroy them on some maps no matter what. Nova Knives are best sidearm.
MarasdF Loron Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 972	Posted - 2014.09.03 05:34:00 - [5] - Quote Crimson ShieId wrote: After the hell that was 1.7, I doubt any of the infantry really give a **** if vehicle users don't like them. Most of em probably consider the current turret rage to be payback for the misery that was militia tank spam. Shrugs Haven't had much of a problem with them myself, and people still seem determined to destroy them on some maps no matter what. After the hell that was and still is 1.7 vehicle overhaul, IDGAF if infantry likes what happens or doesn't happen to vehicles. It was the worst overhaul ever in the history of gaming. Like seriously? Who thought that it was a good idea to remove 90% of the content that vehicle pilots had..?
TheEnd762 SVER True Blood Public.Disorder. 607	Posted - 2014.09.03 05:55:00 - [6] - Quote Because JLAVing is a solution, not a problem. When vehicles can't cut and run to the other side of the map the second things start going sour for them, then JLAVs can be removed.
taxi bastard Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 243	Posted - 2014.09.03 09:24:00 - [7] - Quote Kin Cat wrote: Are you guys trying to get vehicles to hate you? Infantry really didn't need the installation buff. my personal gripe with turrets is that they used to be a WP farm - useless piliots/drivers would score very well without really doing much besides killing turrets at the start of the battle. a turret should be stronger than the tank as its a defensive structure as opposed to a mobile platform so i see no problem with the EHP. the accuacy of the AI is maybe too strong though and thats my only gripe with how things are atm.
Kin Cat Another Clone in the Wall 10	Posted - 2014.09.03 09:29:00 - [8] - Quote defending JLAVs is just the lowest, shittiest crap you could sink to
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 756	Posted - 2014.09.03 09:38:00 - [9] - Quote i have only seen 1 JLAV all through this exp event. take your butthurt to general chat. [[LogiBro in Training]] Level 1 Forum Pariah
Kin Cat Another Clone in the Wall 10	Posted - 2014.09.03 09:45:00 - [10] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: i have only seen 1 JLAV all through this exp event. take your butthurt to general chat. for your information im not even a vehicle user i'm upset that so many good dropship pilots and tankers have quit the game now

taxi bastard Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 243	Posted - 2014.09.03 10:01:00 - [11] - Quote Kin Cat wrote: defending JLAVs is just the lowest, shittiest crap you could sink to well about as low as tankers driving up to infantry instantly jumping out of their tank in a heavy suit mowing down the AV with only a side arm and juming back in if a) they are loosing - then their tank has regenerated EHP b) they killed the infantry player i reserve the right to JLAV these players - at least JLAV is realistic and used in the real world as oposed to instant teleporting in and out of a vehicle.
Kin Cat Another Clone in the Wall 10	Posted - 2014.09.03 10:02:00 - [12] - Quote all of you just need to skill into a forge gun and stop being little bitches why is it that heavies in LAVs are hated but douchebags in LAVs with remotes aren't? it's the same exact ******* concept
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 3425	Posted - 2014.09.03 10:47:00 - [13] - Quote Kin Cat wrote: all of you just need to skill into a forge gun and stop being little bitches why is it that heavies in LAVs are hated but douchebags in LAVs with remotes aren't? it's the same exact ***** concept The Spkr4thedead is strong in this one. You realise friendly tuurets will fire upon and usually destroy, most JLAV's for you. Also they have seen a considerable decrease in effectiveness/use since the RE nerf at STD, the improvement of traditional AV weaponry and the reduction of OP tank modules. Tanks are still quite common and still tough to solo, the only annoying thing is when they jump out there tanks and slaughter you with a burst HMG. We really should introduce pilot suits to stop this. They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh and piss RE's all over your tank! Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD 298	Posted - 2014.09.03 14:38:00 - [14] - Quote By now so many player have upgraded to sufficient AV since 1.7 out of necessity so where are you seeing these JLAV's? Somebody is just having a good ole time with you bro lol! He saw you were playing rather immobile, and thought it would be funny. With the swarms doing better at lower levels, and the amount of players who have decent AV nades, remotes, proxies, forges, and plasma cannons I would be shocked to see a JLAV now. A lot of the tankers and pilots in this game make two mistakes: 1. they role solo?! That's dumb period?! Whether it's a dropship pilot, another tanker, or ground troops shooting AV you need a second. 2. You always think there's one ******* guy shooting at you?! WRONG! Thanks to your QQing 1.7 happened! As a result of that every player in dust has advanced or better AV of some sort! Any squad in D3ATH CARD regardless to which 6 you get can go AV in less than 30 seconds and wreck multiple tanks! We don't even need another tank lol! I'm going to help the OP out here. When the swarms start firing you're already screwed! The swarms are the last part of the attack! 07 "Anybody order chaos?"
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 757	Posted - 2014.09.03 15:07:00 - [15] - Quote Kin Cat wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: i have only seen 1 JLAV all through this exp event. take your butthurt to general chat. for your information im not even a vehicle user i'm upset that so many good dropship pilots and tankers have quit the game now they didnt quit they were just whoreing the exp event on amarr sentinals or scouts :P [[LogiBro in Training]] Level 1 Forum Pariah
MarasdF Loron Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 975	Posted - 2014.09.03 15:39:00 - [16] - Quote taxi bastard wrote: Kin Cat wrote: Are you guys trying to get vehicles to hate you? Infantry really didn't need the installation buff. my personal gripe with turrets is that they used to be a WP farm - useless piliots/drivers would score very well without really doing much besides killing turrets at the start of the battle. a turret should be stronger than the tank as its a defensive structure as opposed to a mobile platform so i see no problem with the EHP. the accuacy of the AI is maybe too strong though and thats my only gripe with how things are atm. The only thing I don't understand is why the strongest weapon in the game is also free?
MarasdF Loron Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 975	Posted - 2014.09.03 15:46:00 - [17] - Quote Kin Cat wrote: defending JLAVs is just the lowest, shittiest crap you could sink to JLAV makes things interesting, first of all as a tanker it alerts you to kill every. single. red. LAV. and at the same time it makes you catious of ramming red LAVs because you never know when they are packed with explosives unless you have scanner active. Now dropship ramming on the other hand is just cheap and dirty, if you are unlucky you waste 27k ish isk but if you are not unlucky then you do it for free and you don't even sacrifice your own clone in the process.
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1467	Posted - 2014.09.03 15:50:00 - [18] - Quote Yea, they can fix JLAVs when they fix DS ramming. If you find an issue and I stumble upon your thread, I will do my darnedest to get the issue known. Also, Raptors...
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 3434	Posted - 2014.09.03 16:15:00 - [19] - Quote MarasdF Loron wrote: taxi bastard wrote: Kin Cat wrote: Are you guys trying to get vehicles to hate you? Infantry really didn't need the installation buff. my personal gripe with turrets is that they used to be a WP farm - useless piliots/drivers would score very well without really doing much besides killing turrets at the start of the battle. a turret should be stronger than the tank as its a defensive structure as opposed to a mobile platform so i see no problem with the EHP. the accuacy of the AI is maybe too strong though and thats my only gripe with how things are atm. The only thing I don't understand is why the strongest weapon in the game is also free? But also cannot be moved must be hacked first doesn't move must be left in vunerable posistion during has no form of locomotion doesn't kill infantry incapable of movement and is entirely immobile, I don't think I mentioned that yet have I? They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank! Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
MarasdF Loron Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 976	Posted - 2014.09.03 16:31:00 - [20] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: MarasdF Loron wrote: taxi bastard wrote: Kin Cat wrote: Are you guys trying to get vehicles to hate you? Infantry really didn't need the installation buff. my personal gripe with turrets is that they used to be a WP farm - useless piliots/drivers would score very well without really doing much besides killing turrets at the start of the battle. a turret should be stronger than the tank as its a defensive structure as opposed to a mobile platform so i see no problem with the EHP. the accuacy of the AI is maybe too strong though and thats my only gripe with how things are atm. The only thing I don't understand is why the strongest weapon in the game is also free? But also cannot be moved must be hacked first doesn't move must be left in vunerable posistion during has no form of locomotion doesn't kill infantry incapable of movement and is entirely immobile, I don't think I mentioned that yet have I? Kills infantry and vehicles alike without breaking a sweat, is sturdier than any vehicle in game, is deadlier than any infantry in game, is free and doesn't move because it doesn't need to. Only downside is that you expose yourself if you are stupid with how you use it but even that is neutered by the fact that many of them are placed in the redline where you are completely out of harms way while you can just roflstomp anything with it. Like I said, the only thing I don't understand is why it's free. Ok, fine, there are 2 other things that I don't understand about them. 1, why doesn't the railgun AI shoot? And 2, why doesn't the AI shoot at infantry? Oh, wait, that's because infantry would QQ, lol.

Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 4137	Posted - 2014.09.03 17:06:00 - [21] - Quote MarasdF Loron wrote: I'm a vehicle user and all this does is it prevents me from playing without squad when flying, and I've never seen the Jihad LAV as a problem either. I am not disagreeing with you in any way, but if you ever do have a problem with a Jihad LAV when you are flying I really hope someone is recording it! Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 4137	Posted - 2014.09.03 17:10:00 - [22] - Quote MarasdF Loron wrote: Crimson ShieId wrote: After the hell that was 1.7, I doubt any of the infantry really give a **** if vehicle users don't like them. Most of em probably consider the current turret rage to be payback for the misery that was militia tank spam. Shrugs Haven't had much of a problem with them myself, and people still seem determined to destroy them on some maps no matter what. After the hell that was and still is 1.7 vehicle overhaul, IDGAF if infantry likes what happens or doesn't happen to vehicles. It was the worst overhaul ever in the history of gaming. Like seriously? Who thought that it was a good idea to remove 90% of the content that vehicle pilots had..? There were times when even I found I was not enjoying myself playing DUST in 1.7. That was a Dark Time from many perspectives. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 4137	Posted - 2014.09.03 17:17:00 - [23] - Quote Kin Cat wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: i have only seen 1 JLAV all through this exp event. take your butthurt to general chat. for your information im not even a vehicle user i'm upset that so many good dropship pilots and tankers have quit the game now I donGÇÖt think any of the good pilots quit due to Jihad Jeeps. The complaint I hear is that vehicles are too dumbed down and not as fun to play since they dramatically reduced the module selection. Of course all of those modules were once in the game and could be added back in without the need for a content patch, so that could change. It is not on the table for Delta, but if pilots lobby for it, it could be considered for Echo or Foxtrot. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
CELESTA AUNGM Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 247	Posted - 2014.09.03 17:55:00 - [24] - Quote Wow... This is one topic where I get to be on BOTH sides of the debate. I agree with Tax Bastard's pov (LOL, Taxi--your name, yuck). It's easy to conceive an image in your mind that the gun-installations are the first combat pieces to get a foothold on the combat area (maybe they are entrenched in their place as defensive pieces during the early construction ofthe facility---maybe they're the first pieces 'dropped' in by the warbarge before the first merc plants foot on dirt--etc). Taxi's right that an "installation" SHOULD be more difficult to kill than a mobile adversary. That includes my dropship being its adversary too. I expect to be fired upon by whatever AI (weak or annoying strong) it might have, and I expect the installation to be a tough nut to crack that's standing in my path. That's its job. Hotfix Charlie represents (to me), the installation going back to doing its job. The Improvised LAV (I prefer I-LAV over any real-world cultural war reference) was always a gimmick that I considered clever and in keeping with the EVE-Dust player rsourcefulness---I don't think it NEEDS to be "fixed". From the POV of a "gunner", I have watched (and used) the new "Charlie" installations, and with the exception of the installations in the redzone, I've seen the installation AI give vehicles a healthy amount of free passes and missed opportunities too. I think, "What are you just SITTING there for---the HAV is RIGHT THERE at the end of your nose!!" And I've tried a few times to man (ugh...I'm a girl) an installation to kill vehicles: unless you get way overconfident with loitering your vehicle in one place, your have a good chance of evading destruction from the installations, even when I'M operating one. I would point out that, by the time an enemy vehicle gets WITHIN the range that the installation is programmed to open fire on it,... the enemy vehicle is now too near for the roatation speed of the installatiion to track the vehicle and shoot at it. ....But, I wouldn't be helping your arguement much, if I brought that up. Universe of good wishes for the 49, especially CCP Eterne... No story can have life without writers and publishers.
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 3436	Posted - 2014.09.03 18:00:00 - [25] - Quote MarasdF Loron wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: MarasdF Loron wrote: taxi bastard wrote: Kin Cat wrote: Are you guys trying to get vehicles to hate you? Infantry really didn't need the installation buff. my personal gripe with turrets is that they used to be a WP farm - useless piliots/drivers would score very well without really doing much besides killing turrets at the start of the battle. a turret should be stronger than the tank as its a defensive structure as opposed to a mobile platform so i see no problem with the EHP. the accuacy of the AI is maybe too strong though and thats my only gripe with how things are atm. The only thing I don't understand is why the strongest weapon in the game is also free? But also cannot be moved must be hacked first doesn't move must be left in vunerable posistion during has no form of locomotion doesn't kill infantry incapable of movement and is entirely immobile, I don't think I mentioned that yet have I? Kills infantry and vehicles alike without breaking a sweat, is sturdier than any vehicle in game, is deadlier than any infantry in game, is free and doesn't move because it doesn't need to. Only downside is that you expose yourself if you are stupid with how you use it but even that is neutered by the fact that many of them are placed in the redline where you are completely out of harms way while you can just roflstomp anything with it. Like I said, the only thing I don't understand is why it's free. Ok, fine, there are 2 other things that I don't understand about them. 1, why doesn't the railgun AI shoot? And 2, why doesn't the AI shoot at infantry? Oh, wait, that's because infantry would QQ, lol. Consodering we don't get to choose where it's deployed I don't see any reason for it not to be free, it's easily out maneuvered and can't shoot round corners. Secomdly if some is 'roflstomping' from the redline, that's good because the only time that'll happen with turret ranges, is if they are being redlined! They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank! Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
Kin Cat Another Clone in the Wall 17	Posted - 2014.09.03 21:55:00 - [26] - Quote just STFU and watch this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eARciZySa2w hes not the first vehicle user to quit. and im talking about seriously well experienced players i sympathize with them because first of all vehicles are so much simpler and boring than the old tanks used to be secondly none of the changes to vehicles have been positive. CCP even promised a dropship price reduction then took it back at the last minute. "oops!" I really feel sorry for vehicles And for ******* real? My forge gun is probably MORE effective than a JLAV but it's not cheap because it takes actual skill to use, and so the vehicle users respect it. Why don't you JLAV faggots get good and actually TRY to use AV instead of being a douche nozzle
TheEnd762 SVER True Blood Public.Disorder. 611	Posted - 2014.09.03 22:08:00 - [27] - Quote Because vehicles just cut and run.
Crimson ShieId Psygod9 814	Posted - 2014.09.03 22:34:00 - [28] - Quote MarasdF Loron wrote: Crimson ShieId wrote: After the hell that was 1.7, I doubt any of the infantry really give a **** if vehicle users don't like them. Most of em probably consider the current turret rage to be payback for the misery that was militia tank spam. Shrugs Haven't had much of a problem with them myself, and people still seem determined to destroy them on some maps no matter what. After the hell that was and still is 1.7 vehicle overhaul, IDGAF if infantry likes what happens or doesn't happen to vehicles. It was the worst overhaul ever in the history of gaming. Like seriously? Who thought that it was a good idea to remove 90% of the content that vehicle pilots had..? Three letters. CCP. Repeat them, memorize them, shake your fist at them, and then remember... They're silly like that. Nova Knives are best sidearm.
taxi bastard Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 250	Posted - 2014.09.03 22:34:00 - [29] - Quote Kin Cat wrote: just STFU and watch this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eARciZySa2w hes not the first vehicle user to quit. and im talking about seriously well experienced players i sympathize with them because first of all vehicles are so much simpler and boring than the old tanks used to be secondly none of the changes to vehicles have been positive. CCP even promised a dropship price reduction then took it back at the last minute. "oops!" I really feel sorry for vehicles And for ******* real? My forge gun is probably MORE effective than a JLAV but it's not cheap because it takes actual skill to use, and so the vehicle users respect it. Why don't you JLAV faggots get good and actually TRY to use AV instead of being a douche nozzle i saw his QQ video before its a gunlogi with the EHP of a unfitted soma double damage mods scanner and a bit of armour - a glass cannon. when the glass cannon dies shatters quickly when shot at you cannot QQ, considering you big yourself up for killing tanks so quickly. as for jlavs. 2 hardeners on a gunlogi will allow you to take a hit from a JLAV with 4 basic RE and 4 advanced RE on and live. fitting selections can be OP
Kin Cat Another Clone in the Wall 17	Posted - 2014.09.03 22:36:00 - [30] - Quote taxi bastard wrote: as for jlavs. 2 hardeners on a gunlogi will allow you to take a hit from a JLAV with 4 basic RE and 4 advanced RE on and live. fitting selections can be OP logs onto gunnlogi 8 million sp alt

Kaze Eyrou Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 573	Posted - 2014.09.03 22:40:00 - [31] - Quote Kin Cat wrote: taxi bastard wrote: as for jlavs. 2 hardeners on a gunlogi will allow you to take a hit from a JLAV with 4 basic RE and 4 advanced RE on and live. fitting selections can be OP logs onto gunnlogi 8 million sp alt targets with 24 R/E LAV Closed Beta Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou
MarasdF Loron Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 981	Posted - 2014.09.03 22:44:00 - [32] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: MarasdF Loron wrote: I'm a vehicle user and all this does is it prevents me from playing without squad when flying, and I've never seen the Jihad LAV as a problem either. I am not disagreeing with you in any way, but if you ever do have a problem with a Jihad LAV when you are flying I really hope someone is recording it! Gosh, of course I meant the installation change, lol.
MarasdF Loron Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 981	Posted - 2014.09.03 22:50:00 - [33] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Consodering we don't get to choose where it's deployed I don't see any reason for it not to be free, it's easily out maneuvered and can't shoot round corners. Secomdly if some is 'roflstomping' from the redline, that's good because the only time that'll happen with turret ranges, is if they are being redlined! You must be new to the map design here.
taxi bastard Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 250	Posted - 2014.09.03 22:50:00 - [34] - Quote Kin Cat wrote: taxi bastard wrote: as for jlavs. 2 hardeners on a gunlogi will allow you to take a hit from a JLAV with 4 basic RE and 4 advanced RE on and live. fitting selections can be OP logs onto gunnlogi 8 million sp alt 2 hardeners - extender - small plate - small armour rep - advanced blaster ( or other turret) small rail gun after JLAV with 4 basic RE + 4 advanced RE you have 371 EHP remaining. most people JLAV with 6 RE
Crimson ShieId Psygod9 814	Posted - 2014.09.03 23:26:00 - [35] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: MarasdF Loron wrote: Crimson ShieId wrote: After the hell that was 1.7, I doubt any of the infantry really give a **** if vehicle users don't like them. Most of em probably consider the current turret rage to be payback for the misery that was militia tank spam. Shrugs Haven't had much of a problem with them myself, and people still seem determined to destroy them on some maps no matter what. After the hell that was and still is 1.7 vehicle overhaul, IDGAF if infantry likes what happens or doesn't happen to vehicles. It was the worst overhaul ever in the history of gaming. Like seriously? Who thought that it was a good idea to remove 90% of the content that vehicle pilots had..? There were times when even I found I was not enjoying myself playing DUST in 1.7. That was a Dark Time from many perspectives. Tanker I take it? Either way, I don't blame you. I had a little over 4 mil invested in tanks (Not much, but I had fits I was happy with on both sides) and I loved tanking before 1.7. It was fun, challenging, and tanks were powerful. After 1.7 came out, I played around with the militia tanks for awhile, though I'd been bored with tanks at the time and decided to spec out of them, I waited for awhile to invest that SP until I knew for sure. When I saw how powerful militia tanks were (Almost as hard to kill, if not more so than my old fit) and how boring the module selection had become, I just said screw it and invested in infantry. I used to enjoy tanking for the most part, even if it was expensive and chewed through my wallet, and I respected tankers just like I respected other scouts before 1.8, but afterwards... I've come to hate the things with a passion and generally despise tankers. It's just one more thing CCP messed up. Nova Knives are best sidearm.
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 3443	Posted - 2014.09.03 23:29:00 - [36] - Quote MarasdF Loron wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Consodering we don't get to choose where it's deployed I don't see any reason for it not to be free, it's easily out maneuvered and can't shoot round corners. Secomdly if some is 'roflstomping' from the redline, that's good because the only time that'll happen with turret ranges, is if they are being redlined! You must be new to the map design here. No but my dropship has still yet fall to even manned turret from the enemy redline. I think the closest I got once was one of the Blasters at the end of the bridge (the old one) , he dropped my DS to about 400 armour. But that wasn't even in the redline. They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank! Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics 3962	Posted - 2014.09.03 23:48:00 - [37] - Quote How sad; I almost shed a tear. I am so very sorry for you that the tanker's WP farm that was the old AI turret has been taken away and replaced by something almost approximating an actual hard point defensive installation. (The godfather of tactical logistics)
Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game 386	Posted - 2014.09.04 01:02:00 - [38] - Quote taxi bastard wrote: Kin Cat wrote: Are you guys trying to get vehicles to hate you? Infantry really didn't need the installation buff. my personal gripe with turrets is that they used to be a WP farm - useless piliots/drivers would score very well without really doing much besides killing turrets at the start of the battle. a turret should be stronger than the tank as its a defensive structure as opposed to a mobile platform so i see no problem with the EHP. the accuacy of the AI is maybe too strong though and thats my only gripe with how things are atm. What's all of this 'Useless pilots/drivers' crap... Most people used a forge gun/swarm launcher on them, lol. And still everyone says it's for war point spam, ignoring still that turrets were and still are bloody useful... & that they still give the same war points and I still blow the fookers up when useless teams leave them all red.
Kin Cat Another Clone in the Wall 17	Posted - 2014.09.04 01:14:00 - [39] - Quote none of you forum people understand that people are butthurt because CCP keeps screwing us over and over if you never had a assault rifle, good for you we don't care it still pissed us off when 1.7 came if you never had a fancy tank with all those damage control mods and armor shiners or whatever, then you don't have the right to talk **** if you never had a dropsuit or weapon get nerfed into the ground then STFU and stop tellling us what to think
MarasdF Loron Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 984	Posted - 2014.09.04 02:20:00 - [40] - Quote Kin Cat wrote: none of you forum people understand that people are butthurt because CCP keeps screwing us over and over if you never had a assault rifle, good for you we don't care it still pissed us off when 1.7 came if you never had a fancy tank with all those damage control mods and armor shiners or whatever, then you don't have the right to talk **** if you never had a dropsuit or weapon get nerfed into the ground then STFU and stop tellling us what to think Some time ago you said you're not a vehicle pilot.

Kin Cat Another Clone in the Wall 18	Posted - 2014.09.04 02:29:00 - [41] - Quote MarasdF Loron wrote: Kin Cat wrote: none of you forum people understand that people are butthurt because CCP keeps screwing us over and over if you never had a assault rifle, good for you we don't care it still pissed us off when 1.7 came if you never had a fancy tank with all those damage control mods and armor shiners or whatever, then you don't have the right to talk ** if you never had a dropsuit or weapon get nerfed into the ground then STFU and stop tellling us what to think Some time ago you said you're not a vehicle pilot. im not talking ** im sympathizing with them. and as a matter of fact i used to know what all those modules were because i had them on my militia vehicles. and i'm a n00b pilot because i have an alt with 8 million and a gunnlogi


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