Watching the TAR vs Scrambler video and poring over the rifle data, we propose these small tweaks. In most cases, the Gallente rifle family just has overall the worst comparative kick and dispersion so we want to bring them closer to the rest of the rifles.

Bear in mind that these are very small tweaks except for the Gallente ones that are heavily underperforming


Reduce Hipfire dispersion of Tactical Assault Rifle (TAR) to be closer to the Scrambler Rifle (considerable)

Reduce Hipfire Kick of TAR to be closer to Scrambler Rifle (considerable)

Increase Hipfire Kick of Scrambler Rifle to be closer to TAR (tiny)

Reduce Hipfire Kick of Gallente Assault rifle (tiny)

Reduce Hipfire Kick of Gallente Burst Assault Rifles (tiny)

Reduce Zoomed Dispersion of Gallente Breach Rifles (considerable)

Set ROF of both Scrambler and TAR to 600

Increase Hipfire Kick of Rail Rifles on second or more rapid consecutive shot, so full auto will be less accurate in CQC (some)


There are no tweaks for the Assault Scrambler as it may be suffering from Armor tanking environment, unless there is a specific reason you can find, there is nothing in the stats that says it should be.

Many players swear by the Assault Rifle actually being ok, don't want to do too many things at once. Any splendid ideas? We don't want to do damage changes nor range for the time being. What do you think is the major drawback in the handling of the AR?

If you are offering, why not a Rail Rifle vs Breach AR comparison, and a Burst Rifle to Combat Rifle, and the crowning achievement, Assault Rifles vs each other. I would love to see what a veteran player thinks of each of these comparisons. .

honestly my worst issue is for some reason the weapon isn't APPLYING the damage the way a lot of other weapons do. It's like you wind up hitbox glitching or something. this is especially noticable with scouts who strafe right through a line of incoming autofire and take no damage.

I don't know if anyone notices issues with actually having the weapons apply the damage. I have no problems with rails and scrams (when I aim) and i can chalk up my issues with the CR to me sucking with burst fire weapons thoroughly.

But for some reason alot of the time the ARs don't seem to be applying all (or any) damage when they are fired in close, which is helping the other rifles overperform against them in my observation.

And my above statement about scouts isn't a "They're OP! it's literally I see them walk through my lines of fire and not take damage. I had one strafe through an HMG spray & pray a few times, and only lose a third of their shields after the hitsstarted registering.

But it's not exclusive to scouts. The AR seems to have a wishy-washy registry of hits to me. I don't know how to explain it further and I'm really wishing I had video capture at the moment to show you what I'm talking about.

I've seen it crop up on the laser rifle too, when firing on a moving target, the game loves to have the target move "between the bullets" as it were, and not take hits.

This is gonna make gal assault op if they implement these buffs =ƒÿ+=ƒÿ+=ƒÿ+=ƒÿ+=ƒÿ+=ƒÿ+=ƒÿ+

>hybrid tanks with tons of armor. (I suggested a fix for this) shield weapons can't kill high armor but armor weapon can kill high armor and shields.
>Other weapons being as good or better in CQC (addressed I hope)
>Range (unless long range weapons get their CQC abilities stripped) but even so it doesn't feel like its DPS compensates much for its range.
>DPS could be a smidge higher to compensate for its range and that the AR competes with the HMG at short range, so far if you want a good CQC 0-10 meters the shotgun or HMG, if you want a good 10-30M weapon the HMG, 40-70 any other weapon. So overall the AR is only useful within a range of 30-40M or 10-40 meters if there are no HMG's competing (as if ).



Easy they all need more DPS or more range, if more DPS they need better CQC abilities.

For example the burst CR is better than the burst AR at CQC and I believe the burst CR also has higher DPS (can't remember) this should be reversed because the burst AR also has lower range. The burst AR should be much better at CQC and have the higher DPS.

Assault weapons, all need slightly less range than their main counterpart, they need more DPS and CQC abilities but not going over the AR nor close since they would all still have longer range.

If you look at the DPS Tuning thread, you'll see that after the changes made in DELTA all the other rifles will be balanced. Hopefully
What more OP than the ScR is brick tanking, scouts with 700-800 eHP, Assault with just shy of a 1000, Heavies with nearly 1600 eHP, this shouldn't be possible especially with a PRO primary weapon equipped.

Biotic modules need serious buffs.
We need more hybrid tanking modules
We need more support modules.

Afterall pretty much any weapon will look UP when you pit it against someone with 2-3x your eHP