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Vitharr Foebane
Terminal Courtesy
Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.08.30 20:56:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:Zindorak wrote:Spectre-M wrote:Please stop comparing weapon combos to single weapons. It's just absurd.
The only thing that's needs changing with handheld weapons is for heat (ScR HMG) and kick (all) to be based on shots, not seconds. This would remove the turbos as well as make kick and heat an actual drawback.
Right now kick is minimal and heat only occurs on the ScR, LR and HMG.
AR needs a little buff.
I don't see how the per shot mechanic wasn't done along time ago, except of course the LR as it's a beam. Yea I like the AR but it's just bad right now technically the inclusion of any sidearm tips the balance. and yes a scrambler rifle/sidearm combo making everything else obsolete is the definition of imbalance and im compairing the combo of scrambler sidearm to all other rifles+ sidearm
by your logic is the ScP OP? After all once you drop their shields you can just swap to a SMG 
Amarr: Assault V, Scout V, Sentinel V, Commando V, Logistics IV
I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
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Vitharr Foebane
Terminal Courtesy
Proficiency V.
1866
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Posted - 2014.08.30 21:20:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:Zindorak wrote:Spectre-M wrote:Please stop comparing weapon combos to single weapons. It's just absurd.
The only thing that's needs changing with handheld weapons is for heat (ScR HMG) and kick (all) to be based on shots, not seconds. This would remove the turbos as well as make kick and heat an actual drawback.
Right now kick is minimal and heat only occurs on the ScR, LR and HMG.
AR needs a little buff.
I don't see how the per shot mechanic wasn't done along time ago, except of course the LR as it's a beam. Yea I like the AR but it's just bad right now technically the inclusion of any sidearm tips the balance. and yes a scrambler rifle/sidearm combo making everything else obsolete is the definition of imbalance and im compairing the combo of scrambler sidearm to all other rifles+ sidearm by your logic is the ScP OP? After all once you drop their shields you can just swap to a SMG 300RPM prevents that it just cant put out the dps to make it work while the scrambler rifle can
but in skilled hands it can are you factoring in the 450% headshot bonus? after all you are using a lot of sparkly what ifs in your ScR "logic"
EDIT: AScP DPS is a whopping 1809.06 at BASIC BEFORE PROFICIENCY OR DMG MODS 
Amarr: Assault V, Scout V, Sentinel V, Commando V, Logistics IV
I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
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Vitharr Foebane
Terminal Courtesy
Proficiency V.
1866
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Posted - 2014.08.30 21:36:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:
but in skilled hands it can are you factoring in the 450% headshot bonus? after all you are using a lot of sparkly what ifs in your ScR "logic"
if by sparkly what ifs you mean "what if i spam 8 shots then swap" and "what if i hit the target" then sure im using sparkly what ifs... headshots do indeed bring it more in line but the pistol lacks the utility of long range combat. ScP/SMG combo is VERY effective in pub matches for the same reasons but the lack of utility prevents it from excelling in PC the same way its big brother does not to mention the extra added utility of the charge shot landing consecutive headshots with the scrambler pistol is also exceedingly more difficult then landing bodyshots with a scrambler rifle. it would require perfect play to beat its older brother but would lose out on a single missed shot
But that is what we are comparing yes? "Perfect Play"
Amarr: Assault V, Scout V, Sentinel V, Commando V, Logistics IV
I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
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Vitharr Foebane
Terminal Courtesy
Proficiency V.
1866
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Posted - 2014.08.30 21:40:00 -
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Monty Mole Clone wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote: AScP DPS is a whopping 1809.06 at BASIC BEFORE PROFICIENCY OR DMG MODS shush, dont make me send the inquisitors to your place of residence
>.>
<.<
Amarr: Assault V, Scout V, Sentinel V, Commando V, Logistics IV
I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
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Vitharr Foebane
Terminal Courtesy
Proficiency V.
1867
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Posted - 2014.08.30 21:54:00 -
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Monty Mole Clone wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Monty Mole Clone wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote: AScP DPS is a whopping 1809.06 at BASIC BEFORE PROFICIENCY OR DMG MODS shush, dont make me send the inquisitors to your place of residence >.> <.< since im not totally down with the net lingo, i will take that as your acceptance of my warning
dont know what yer talkin about friend *nod nod nudge nudge wink wink*
Amarr: Assault V, Scout V, Sentinel V, Commando V, Logistics IV
I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
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