DUST Search - Silence speaks volumes(?)

Kaughst wrote:

Fox Gaden wrote:

Yes, that probably required a bit of Dev time, since it would require some interface changes, but I expect they kept it simple. Keep in mind though that Faction Warfare was designed around the premise that we would be able to sell Salvage on the open market. Without that, FW produced no ISK. So a way to sell Salvage was one of their highest priority items that needed to be added to DUST. Again, it was a really big Bang for the Buck.

So, yes, they did redirect some Dev time from Legion to work on DUST, but only on the stuff that would have the most positive impact for the least amount of effort.

Rattati probably has to have a clear plan and a really strong business case to get approval to take a Dev off of Legion.

I would not worry about Legion development because of the 1.9 changes. The 1.9 stuff is only taking a small fraction of the DevGÇÖs time. And keeping DUST going strong helps make the case for Greenlighting Legion, as well as helping to finance it.

It makes me think...the whole reason why they are working on 1.9 that is...

Does it mean that they feel confident enough with Legion and are ahead of themselves in development enough to give these improvements in Dust?

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Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16519	Posted - 2014.09.23 16:04:00 - [31] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Last week IWS stated that Legion's development continues. He could not comment on what exactly what being done or when CCP was going to tell us something; although he did say that all of the CPM are urging CCP to begin Legion discussions asap. I don't expect anyone to take my word for it. Instead, contact the CPM members on these forums and request more communication from CCP. I rather let CCP share that information to be honest. Thats because you'll be fired. psst... IWS is in the CPM, not a paid employee. Just means he's a fool working for free. He can still get fired. Remember Nova Knife? This is true I can get fired. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Sniper Rifles =// Unlocked
IMMORTAL WAR HERO NECROM0NGERS 230	Posted - 2014.09.23 19:18:00 - [32] - Quote IWS is most legit person ive ever seen in EVE i will blindly follow him anywhere because he wants whats best for the community. because of IWS i can patiently wait as long as it takes and i guarantee that i will be playing legion for next 10 years if ccp lets me Frowned upon by amateurs: The object of war is not to die for your country but make the other bastard die for his. GSP
George Moros RestlessSpirits 419	Posted - 2014.10.17 11:01:00 - [33] - Quote http://dust514.com/news/blog/2014/10/dust-514-dev-update/ So, finally some mention of PL from CCP. It seems PL is still waiting for the green light. Maybe we'll get the answer by next fanfest. Maybe. IMHO, considering the way CCP announced PL last fanfest, this is taking too long. You don't announce a game, knowing that it will infuriate a good portion of your current customers, and then wait for a year to decide whether the announcement was for real or just a (bad) joke. Pulvereus ergo queritor.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 4575	Posted - 2014.10.17 13:26:00 - [34] - Quote I donGÇÖt think the guys that made the decision on how to announce Legion had any idea that the DUST community would react like that. Rouge knew, but they did not listen to him. The guys at CCP head office had been listening to EVE players complain for years that DUST should be on PC, so they probably expected everyone to be thrilled. #outoftouch I do expect we will hear a lot more about Legion at the next Fan Fest. I was hoping for something at EVE Vegas, but I am not holding my breath. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2184	Posted - 2014.10.17 15:20:00 - [35] - Quote George Moros wrote: http://dust514.com/news/blog/2014/10/dust-514-dev-update/ So, finally some mention of PL from CCP. It seems PL is still waiting for the green light. Maybe we'll get the answer by next fanfest. Maybe. IMHO, considering the way CCP announced PL last fanfest, this is taking too long. You don't announce a game, knowing that it will infuriate a good portion of your current customers, and then wait for a year to decide whether the announcement was for real or just a (bad) joke. They were forced to announce it at FanFest because people would figure it out anyway since there would be no information or further development on DUST. Ideally they wouldn't want to announce it this soon, but it was neccessary in this situation. Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers! R.I.P MAG.
da GAND Bloodline Rebellion 936	Posted - 2014.10.17 21:45:00 - [36] - Quote The 1.9 update also kinda makes me wonder about a few things? This seems like a cool update but how much of the team worked on this? Are they still focused on Dust 514? How many people are working on Legion? Are they working on Legion at all? Supporter of EVE LEGION
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 4599	Posted - 2014.10.18 00:37:00 - [37] - Quote da GAND wrote: The 1.9 update also kinda makes me wonder about a few things? This seems like a cool update but how much of the team worked on this? Are they still focused on Dust 514? How many people are working on Legion? Are they working on Legion at all? The biggest thing in 1.9 is the new maps, but those maps were pulled from a previous patch at the last minute because they were not quite done, then shelved when they shifted to working on Legion, so they must have been almost done. Taking them off the shelf and finishing them off would not have taken an immense amount of Dev time, and is a lot of bang for the buck. Which is to say, most of the Dev time is still focused on Legion, but DUST may be able to borrow some Dev time if it continues to do well and there is something that is worth doing. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9781	Posted - 2014.10.18 02:18:00 - [38] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: da GAND wrote: The 1.9 update also kinda makes me wonder about a few things? This seems like a cool update but how much of the team worked on this? Are they still focused on Dust 514? How many people are working on Legion? Are they working on Legion at all? The biggest thing in 1.9 is the new maps, but those maps were pulled from a previous patch at the last minute because they were not quite done, then shelved when they shifted to working on Legion, so they must have been almost done. Taking them off the shelf and finishing them off would not have taken an immense amount of Dev time, and is a lot of bang for the buck. Which is to say, most of the Dev time is still focused on Legion, but DUST may be able to borrow some Dev time if it continues to do well and there is something that is worth doing. My thoughts exactly. I have heard about these "new maps" before especially on the new outpost like the Caldari Production Facility. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
da GAND Bloodline Rebellion 936	Posted - 2014.10.18 03:21:00 - [39] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: da GAND wrote: The 1.9 update also kinda makes me wonder about a few things? This seems like a cool update but how much of the team worked on this? Are they still focused on Dust 514? How many people are working on Legion? Are they working on Legion at all? The biggest thing in 1.9 is the new maps, but those maps were pulled from a previous patch at the last minute because they were not quite done, then shelved when they shifted to working on Legion, so they must have been almost done. Taking them off the shelf and finishing them off would not have taken an immense amount of Dev time, and is a lot of bang for the buck. Which is to say, most of the Dev time is still focused on Legion, but DUST may be able to borrow some Dev time if it continues to do well and there is something that is worth doing. Ya I see what you mean, bringing maps that were shelved might not have cost too much time or amount of devs but what about being able to sell salvage to NPC vendors? Supporter of EVE LEGION
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 4607	Posted - 2014.10.18 12:20:00 - [40] - Quote Yes, that probably required a bit of Dev time, since it would require some interface changes, but I expect they kept it simple. Keep in mind though that Faction Warfare was designed around the premise that we would be able to sell Salvage on the open market. Without that, FW produced no ISK. So a way to sell Salvage was one of their highest priority items that needed to be added to DUST. Again, it was a really big Bang for the Buck. So, yes, they did redirect some Dev time from Legion to work on DUST, but only on the stuff that would have the most positive impact for the least amount of effort. Rattati probably has to have a clear plan and a really strong business case to get approval to take a Dev off of Legion. I would not worry about Legion development because of the 1.9 changes. The 1.9 stuff is only taking a small fraction of the DevGÇÖs time. And keeping DUST going strong helps make the case for Greenlighting Legion, as well as helping to finance it. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.

Kaughst Nyain San General Tso's Alliance 720	Posted - 2014.10.18 14:54:00 - [41] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Yes, that probably required a bit of Dev time, since it would require some interface changes, but I expect they kept it simple. Keep in mind though that Faction Warfare was designed around the premise that we would be able to sell Salvage on the open market. Without that, FW produced no ISK. So a way to sell Salvage was one of their highest priority items that needed to be added to DUST. Again, it was a really big Bang for the Buck. So, yes, they did redirect some Dev time from Legion to work on DUST, but only on the stuff that would have the most positive impact for the least amount of effort. Rattati probably has to have a clear plan and a really strong business case to get approval to take a Dev off of Legion. I would not worry about Legion development because of the 1.9 changes. The 1.9 stuff is only taking a small fraction of the DevGÇÖs time. And keeping DUST going strong helps make the case for Greenlighting Legion, as well as helping to finance it. It makes me think...the whole reason why they are working on 1.9 that is... Does it mean that they feel confident enough with Legion and are ahead of themselves in development enough to give these improvements in Dust? "Why do we fight?" "To win the war." "Meh... Works for me."
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2184	Posted - 2014.10.18 16:10:00 - [42] - Quote Kaughst wrote: It makes me think...the whole reason why they are working on 1.9 that is... Does it mean that they feel confident enough with Legion and are ahead of themselves in development enough to give these improvements in Dust? Rather that they realised they need to do some work on DUST to keep people playing that until Legion is done, which could be a while. Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers! R.I.P MAG.
da GAND Bloodline Rebellion 936	Posted - 2014.10.18 23:21:00 - [43] - Quote Kaughst wrote: Fox Gaden wrote: Yes, that probably required a bit of Dev time, since it would require some interface changes, but I expect they kept it simple. Keep in mind though that Faction Warfare was designed around the premise that we would be able to sell Salvage on the open market. Without that, FW produced no ISK. So a way to sell Salvage was one of their highest priority items that needed to be added to DUST. Again, it was a really big Bang for the Buck. So, yes, they did redirect some Dev time from Legion to work on DUST, but only on the stuff that would have the most positive impact for the least amount of effort. Rattati probably has to have a clear plan and a really strong business case to get approval to take a Dev off of Legion. I would not worry about Legion development because of the 1.9 changes. The 1.9 stuff is only taking a small fraction of the DevGÇÖs time. And keeping DUST going strong helps make the case for Greenlighting Legion, as well as helping to finance it. It makes me think...the whole reason why they are working on 1.9 that is... Does it mean that they feel confident enough with Legion and are ahead of themselves in development enough to give these improvements in Dust? No seems more like testing for Legion, not to just get people to keep playing Dust. Which is a good idea. Supporter of EVE LEGION
TrueXer0z DUST University Ivy League 596	Posted - 2014.10.19 00:56:00 - [44] - Quote Doesn't look like much has changed since I have been away. But, it doesn't matter much. I hope CCP is actually building Legion. I hope it doesn't turn into another 8 year project and end up like World of Darkness. However, moving on is what I have done. I have little faith in CCP at this point due to past digressions. If Legion becomes a reality I will give it a chance. I will not expect the world or expect anything beyond what I am familiar with from CCP. Then maybe...just maybe....I'll be pleasantly surprised. Just a Note: After playing many games..including Destiny I know now how much better of a game Dust 514 really is. It lacks a lot of things, but it still is a lot more in depth then any other FPS I have played to date. Where CCP failed with Dust I hope they succeed with Legion. The IP is worth the time. Director, Dust University @TrueXer0z
lateris ablon Commando Perkone Caldari State 32	Posted - 2014.10.19 07:53:00 - [45] - Quote TrueXer0z wrote: Doesn't look like much has changed since I have been away. But, it doesn't matter much. I hope CCP is actually building Legion. I hope it doesn't turn into another 8 year project and end up like World of Darkness. However, moving on is what I have done. I have little faith in CCP at this point due to past digressions. If Legion becomes a reality I will give it a chance. I will not expect the world or expect anything beyond what I am familiar with from CCP. Then maybe...just maybe....I'll be pleasantly surprised. Just a Note: After playing many games..including Destiny I know now how much better of a game Dust 514 really is. It lacks a lot of things, but it still is a lot more in depth then any other FPS I have played to date. Where CCP failed with Dust I hope they succeed with Legion. The IP is worth the time. Agreed. ATC


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