DUST Search - Attn CCP: Not enough changes to get a respec? Are you joking?

Pseudogenesis wrote:

CommanderBolt wrote:

True Adamance wrote:

Draven Kjyu wrote:

You say that vehicles haven't been changed enough to deserve any respecs... It's not the fact that you've changed tanks, it's the fact that a full-proto tank can be taken out by a single person in a Min. Commando suit, or as just happened, a GK.0 Scout with proto swarms, and in less than a second or two.

Tanks used to be viable. Now? Now, vehicles can't even land half of the time. You buffed the turrets, buffed the AV, buffed everything. The last thing you did to vehicles was nerf them. How can you say that buffing all of the AV and nerfing the vehicles themselves is not deserving of a respec?

I have nearly 23m SP invested solely into vehicles, as well as probably $200 of aurum over time. Before the av buff and the vehicle nerf, you needed one tank to take out another tank. Now all you need is a swarm launcher and a nano hive, and you can sit out of a tanks' height limit and laugh as they run.

So now, for the last time, either balance the av and tanks, give out respecs, or reintroduce the damned enforcer HAV's, Logistic/Scout LAV's, and the Logi Dropships!

You are 6 months too late bro....................

You apparently revelled in the 1.7 changes where your HAV was a death machine and ruined everyone's games and your results lulled you into thinking that being invincible and having the greatest fire power made you skilled at your craft......

RIP 1.3-1.5 where tankers were good and few disputed it.

Mate RIP Chromosome. The best this game ever was by far. I dont know how one company can spend a year changing things yet still have an inferior product to the beta......

Viziam lasers would like a word with you.

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Draven Kjyu RECTUM Damn near killed em 1	Posted - 2014.08.29 03:08:00 - [1] - Quote You say that vehicles haven't been changed enough to deserve any respecs... It's not the fact that you've changed tanks, it's the fact that a full-proto tank can be taken out by a single person in a Min. Commando suit, or as just happened, a GK.0 Scout with proto swarms, and in less than a second or two. Tanks used to be viable. Now? Now, vehicles can't even land half of the time. You buffed the turrets, buffed the AV, buffed everything. The last thing you did to vehicles was nerf them. How can you say that buffing all of the AV and nerfing the vehicles themselves is not deserving of a respec? I have nearly 23m SP invested solely into vehicles, as well as probably $200 of aurum over time. Before the av buff and the vehicle nerf, you needed one tank to take out another tank. Now all you need is a swarm launcher and a nano hive, and you can sit out of a tanks' height limit and laugh as they run. So now, for the last time, either balance the av and tanks, give out respecs, or reintroduce the damned enforcer HAV's, Logistic/Scout LAV's, and the Logi Dropships!
Jack 3enimble Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 253	Posted - 2014.08.29 03:14:00 - [2] - Quote A tank can still be dominant in the field. Quit your bitching. I have a 10 mil tank alt and have no problem avoiding swarms or av scouts. Taking into consideration the amount of SP you have in tanks you should have even less of a problem with them. There has already been a vehicle respec btw.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 2377	Posted - 2014.08.29 03:19:00 - [3] - Quote Wait... the forgegun got buffed? So my assault forge charge time is back to 2.5 seconds and standard forges back to 3? Nope. Is my damage back up to chromo... nope. OH WAIT! MY HEAVY DAMAGE MODS WERE BUF... Nope. I'm sorry what nerfs have been undone on AV? And I'm sorry but swarms have been subpar since the three months of glory they had over a year ago.
Soulja Ghostface MCDUSTDONALDS Top Men. 2680	Posted - 2014.08.29 03:22:00 - [4] - Quote Jack 3enimble wrote: A tank can still be dominant in the field. Quit your bitching. I have a 10 mil tank alt and have no problem avoiding swarms or av scouts. Taking into consideration the amount of SP you have in tanks you should have even less of a problem with them. There has already been a vehicle respec btw. Unless the skill tree gets tinkered with. We never got out sp for logistic dropship or enforcers back Bring These Back i Tanker Turned Ads Pilot !
Tectonic Fusion 2079	Posted - 2014.08.29 03:24:00 - [5] - Quote Proto swarms were nerfed. (GIF)
Draven Kjyu RECTUM Damn near killed em 3	Posted - 2014.08.29 04:04:00 - [6] - Quote Nerfed my ass. I got popped with two sets of swarms from a min. commando proto, and I was running dual hardeners with 5k armor. Tell me how swarms have been nerfed?
Fizzer XCIV Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 160	Posted - 2014.08.29 04:09:00 - [7] - Quote Draven Kjyu wrote: Nerfed my ass. I got popped with two sets of swarms from a min. commando proto, and I was running dual hardeners with 5k armor. Tell me how swarms have been nerfed? You got killed by someone using dual swarms? Props to them. They were defenseless, you could have hopped out of your murder fortress and killed them with an Ion Pistol.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9172	Posted - 2014.08.29 04:14:00 - [8] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Draven Kjyu wrote: Nerfed my ass. I got popped with two sets of swarms from a min. commando proto, and I was running dual hardeners with 5k armor. Tell me how swarms have been nerfed? You got killed by someone using dual swarms? Props to them. They were defenseless, you could have hopped out of your murder fortress and killed them with an Ion Pistol. Or just backed up into them. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2177	Posted - 2014.08.29 04:17:00 - [9] - Quote its not a full proto tank... its a standard tank as there arnt any advance or proto vehicles in the game Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind"
Gabriel Ceja Knights of Eternal Darkness League of Infamy 42	Posted - 2014.08.29 04:32:00 - [10] - Quote Wait so you're telling me a weapon whose purpose is to attack and destroy vehicles popped your tank I'm shocked. If you stayed there long enough to know he has dual swarms you deserve to be popped. Also tanks are still good I have no problem running my tank and the only time I'm really in trouble against swarms is when they have multiple av out there. Though there are obviously a few more things to work out over the battle between tanks and av this is the most balanced it's been in a while. ...on a side note I'm gonna go out on limb here and guess before bravo all you ran was railgun glass cannons "Throw on the flux capacitor." activates fuel injector "WOOOOOO!!!"

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 13108	Posted - 2014.08.29 04:38:00 - [11] - Quote Draven Kjyu wrote: You say that vehicles haven't been changed enough to deserve any respecs... It's not the fact that you've changed tanks, it's the fact that a full-proto tank can be taken out by a single person in a Min. Commando suit, or as just happened, a GK.0 Scout with proto swarms, and in less than a second or two. Tanks used to be viable. Now? Now, vehicles can't even land half of the time. You buffed the turrets, buffed the AV, buffed everything. The last thing you did to vehicles was nerf them. How can you say that buffing all of the AV and nerfing the vehicles themselves is not deserving of a respec? I have nearly 23m SP invested solely into vehicles, as well as probably $200 of aurum over time. Before the av buff and the vehicle nerf, you needed one tank to take out another tank. Now all you need is a swarm launcher and a nano hive, and you can sit out of a tanks' height limit and laugh as they run. So now, for the last time, either balance the av and tanks, give out respecs, or reintroduce the damned enforcer HAV's, Logistic/Scout LAV's, and the Logi Dropships! You are 6 months too late bro.................... You apparently revelled in the 1.7 changes where your HAV was a death machine and ruined everyone's games and your results lulled you into thinking that being invincible and having the greatest fire power made you skilled at your craft...... RIP 1.3-1.5 where tankers were good and few disputed it. "We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
CommanderBolt Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 1435	Posted - 2014.08.29 04:48:00 - [12] - Quote This game is dying anyway, no new news on the horizon for Legion and EVE is also dying. I think its time CCP pulled their socks up and did something otherwise their player-base will be anaemic very soon. -=#[ Gastun's Forge ]#=- MY LIFE FOR AIUR! "I'm wasting away here" - "Get me back into zee fight!
CommanderBolt Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 1435	Posted - 2014.08.29 04:50:00 - [13] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Draven Kjyu wrote: You say that vehicles haven't been changed enough to deserve any respecs... It's not the fact that you've changed tanks, it's the fact that a full-proto tank can be taken out by a single person in a Min. Commando suit, or as just happened, a GK.0 Scout with proto swarms, and in less than a second or two. Tanks used to be viable. Now? Now, vehicles can't even land half of the time. You buffed the turrets, buffed the AV, buffed everything. The last thing you did to vehicles was nerf them. How can you say that buffing all of the AV and nerfing the vehicles themselves is not deserving of a respec? I have nearly 23m SP invested solely into vehicles, as well as probably $200 of aurum over time. Before the av buff and the vehicle nerf, you needed one tank to take out another tank. Now all you need is a swarm launcher and a nano hive, and you can sit out of a tanks' height limit and laugh as they run. So now, for the last time, either balance the av and tanks, give out respecs, or reintroduce the damned enforcer HAV's, Logistic/Scout LAV's, and the Logi Dropships! You are 6 months too late bro.................... You apparently revelled in the 1.7 changes where your HAV was a death machine and ruined everyone's games and your results lulled you into thinking that being invincible and having the greatest fire power made you skilled at your craft...... RIP 1.3-1.5 where tankers were good and few disputed it. Mate RIP Chromosome. The best this game ever was by far. I dont know how one company can spend a year changing things yet still have an inferior product to the beta...... -=#[ Gastun's Forge ]#=- MY LIFE FOR AIUR! "I'm wasting away here" - "Get me back into zee fight!
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9173	Posted - 2014.08.29 05:07:00 - [14] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: This game is dying anyway, no new news on the horizon for Legion and EVE is also dying. I think its time CCP pulled their socks up and did something otherwise their player-base will be anaemic very soon. I heard the same ** for WoW and the same for LoL and the same ** for GW and the... my point here is that there is no point in saying those MMO are dying. Anyone who says [insert game here] is dying is just some troll. Except for Dust. This game really is on its last leg of its journey. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 7390	Posted - 2014.08.29 05:08:00 - [15] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: This game is dying anyway, no new news on the horizon for Legion and EVE is also dying. I think its time CCP pulled their socks up and did something otherwise their player-base will be anaemic very soon. I heard the same ** for WoW and the same for LoL and the same ** for GW and the... my point here is that there is no point in saying those MMO are dying. Anyone who says [insert game here] is dying is just some troll. Except for Dust. This game really is on its last leg of its journey. He's actually 100% right about this for once. Lucent Echelon -The Brightest Ranks Gallente Faction Warfare Chanel
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1278	Posted - 2014.08.29 07:51:00 - [16] - Quote Draven Kjyu wrote: Nerfed my ass. I got popped with two sets of swarms from a min. commando proto, and I was running dual hardeners with 5k armor. Tell me how swarms have been nerfed? because you had a crappy fit tank LOL no wonder you are haveing problems. KEQ diplomat/ intel /GC officer
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kyoudai Furinkazan 1133	Posted - 2014.08.29 14:40:00 - [17] - Quote Draven Kjyu wrote: You say that vehicles haven't been changed enough to deserve any respecs... It's not the fact that you've changed tanks, it's the fact that a full-proto tank can be taken out by a single person in a Min. Commando suit, or as just happened, a GK.0 Scout with proto swarms, and in less than a second or two. Tanks used to be viable. Now? Now, vehicles can't even land half of the time. You buffed the turrets, buffed the AV, buffed everything. The last thing you did to vehicles was nerf them. How can you say that buffing all of the AV and nerfing the vehicles themselves is not deserving of a respec? I have nearly 23m SP invested solely into vehicles, as well as probably $200 of aurum over time. Before the av buff and the vehicle nerf, you needed one tank to take out another tank. Now all you need is a swarm launcher and a nano hive, and you can sit out of a tanks' height limit and laugh as they run. So now, for the last time, either balance the av and tanks, give out respecs, or reintroduce the damned enforcer HAV's, Logistic/Scout LAV's, and the Logi Dropships! They might be bringing back the next tier in HAV's so it might happen with the Delta drop or right after , so don't quote me on that but I've seen where others in the community have mentioned it to the DEV's and they didn't brush them to the side so there might be some hope . The problem might be how to bring them back into the game without breaking the already fragile state of vehicles versus anti-vehicle . Refunds , I don't know if it will be partial or full , should be addressed soon and hopefully they will just allow those who choose to , to file a ticket by a certain date so as to allow those who would like one to have what they wish and at the same time , not bothering those who don't want one . I think that the problem is more or less the overwhelming state of the ground vehicles versus air as far as items that can be used effectively as a deterrent . That's not balanced to me at all but I'm not in the " think tank " so it doesn't matter what I think but it's not balanced . Anti-vehicle should not be a focus to destroy ground forces , while running off air forces . It should be the same for both and with the same amount of skilled weapons against both but that's not the case at all . Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
Tardthe GrumpyCat Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 0	Posted - 2014.08.29 15:07:00 - [18] - Quote Draven Kjyu wrote: You say that vehicles haven't been changed enough to deserve any respecs... It's not the fact that you've changed tanks, it's the fact that a full-proto tank can be taken out by a single person in a Min. Commando suit, or as just happened, a GK.0 Scout with proto swarms, and in less than a second or two. Tanks used to be viable. Now? Now, vehicles can't even land half of the time. You buffed the turrets, buffed the AV, buffed everything. The last thing you did to vehicles was nerf them. How can you say that buffing all of the AV and nerfing the vehicles themselves is not deserving of a respec? I have nearly 23m SP invested solely into vehicles, as well as probably $200 of aurum over time. Before the av buff and the vehicle nerf, you needed one tank to take out another tank. Now all you need is a swarm launcher and a nano hive, and you can sit out of a tanks' height limit and laugh as they run. So now, for the last time, either balance the av and tanks, give out respecs, or reintroduce the damned enforcer HAV's, Logistic/Scout LAV's, and the Logi Dropships! There aren't any prototype tanks.
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 2515	Posted - 2014.08.29 15:21:00 - [19] - Quote I only play dead games. They're the best. Dust Loyalist *Greedy Bastards*
Heimdallr69 Nyain San 3387	Posted - 2014.08.29 15:25:00 - [20] - Quote Hot fix delta = respec, they will be dinking around with side-arms which is the last major fix thingy. Therefor I can't see any reason for there not to be a respec by delta. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro

ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1451	Posted - 2014.08.29 15:34:00 - [21] - Quote Soulja Ghostface wrote: Jack 3enimble wrote: A tank can still be dominant in the field. Quit your bitching. I have a 10 mil tank alt and have no problem avoiding swarms or av scouts. Taking into consideration the amount of SP you have in tanks you should have even less of a problem with them. There has already been a vehicle respec btw. Unless the skill tree gets tinkered with. We never got our sp for logistic dropship or enforcers back Never got your SP for Enforcer tanks back? Really? I feel like my buddies would have mentioned being out those Millions of SP... Learned something new. If you find an issue and I stumble upon your thread, I will do my darnedest to get the issue known. Also, Raptors...
Pocket Rocket Girl Psygod9 84	Posted - 2014.08.29 16:02:00 - [22] - Quote [quote=Draven Kjyu]Nerfed my ass. I got popped with two sets of swarms from a min. commando proto, and I was running dual hardeners with 5k armor. Tell me how swarms have been nerfed?[/quo] points and laughs learn to tank. If you stand still long enough for a swarmer to fire 3 vollies reload and fire 3 More and you expect to live just because you have dual hardeners and 5k armor then you need to learn to tank properly. Yes proto swarms were nerfed. The walking Missile tank
RayRay James Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 406	Posted - 2014.08.29 16:04:00 - [23] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: I can't see any reason for there not to be a respec by delta. You know, except for 10 years of CCP history...
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 3128	Posted - 2014.08.29 16:36:00 - [24] - Quote "Waaaaaaaaaaah I want pay to win in this game"
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 4520	Posted - 2014.08.29 16:39:00 - [25] - Quote Draven Kjyu wrote: You say that vehicles haven't been changed enough to deserve any respecs... It's not the fact that you've changed tanks, it's the fact that a full-proto tank can be taken out by a single person in a Min. Commando suit, or as just happened, a GK.0 Scout with proto swarms, and in less than a second or two. Tanks used to be viable. Now? Now, vehicles can't even land half of the time. You buffed the turrets, buffed the AV, buffed everything. The last thing you did to vehicles was nerf them. How can you say that buffing all of the AV and nerfing the vehicles themselves is not deserving of a respec? I have nearly 23m SP invested solely into vehicles, as well as probably $200 of aurum over time. Before the av buff and the vehicle nerf, you needed one tank to take out another tank. Now all you need is a swarm launcher and a nano hive, and you can sit out of a tanks' height limit and laugh as they run. So now, for the last time, either balance the av and tanks, give out respecs, or reintroduce the damned enforcer HAV's, Logistic/Scout LAV's, and the Logi Dropships! Did you not see the 6 page thread going on about respecs? Level 4 Forum Warrior Very, very bitter vet PSN: wbrom42
Thumb Green Raymond James Corp 1352	Posted - 2014.08.29 16:56:00 - [26] - Quote Soulja Ghostface wrote: Jack 3enimble wrote: A tank can still be dominant in the field. Quit your bitching. I have a 10 mil tank alt and have no problem avoiding swarms or av scouts. Taking into consideration the amount of SP you have in tanks you should have even less of a problem with them. There has already been a vehicle respec btw. Unless the skill tree gets tinkered with. We never got our sp for logistic dropship or enforcers back You did get your SP back; the entire vehicle skill tree was refunded when they took those out. At the RJC we don't kick ass, we kick dick and we kick it hard. Fix supply depots
Scheneighnay McBob Cult of Gasai 5873	Posted - 2014.08.29 19:14:00 - [27] - Quote lolno When Dust came out of beta, CCP said there would be no respecs. They should have stuck to their word. There has NEVER been a reason to respec since launch. pé¦pâ+pé¦pâ½pâäpâ¬pâ¦pé¦pâ¼pâ+pâêpü»sñ¬S+ïpéè
Nrabatar Zorig Nos Nothi 238	Posted - 2014.08.29 20:10:00 - [28] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: This game is dying anyway, no new news on the horizon for Legion and EVE is also dying. I think its time CCP pulled their socks up and did something otherwise their player-base will be anaemic very soon. I always remember this whenever someone says that EVE is dying. Congratulations, you just contributed to that statistic where EVE has been dying since 2003. Shaman Zorig of the Vherokior Tribe
DarthJT5 12th Shadow Legion 99	Posted - 2014.08.29 21:18:00 - [29] - Quote Quit your bitching. If your in your proto fit tank and your getting destroyed by 1 AV'er you shouldnt be tanking. Cry babies like you are the guys that give tankers a bad name. Tanks got nerfed because they were God mode. Installations got buffed because they were completely useless. The only kInd of AV that got buffed were mlt-ADV swarms, and that was because they were garbage. Stfu, learn how to tank. Dedicated Shield Tanking vet since Open Beta. Up and coming Python pilot. The awnser is always XT missiles....
The True Inferno Myrmidon Syndicate 53	Posted - 2014.08.29 23:33:00 - [30] - Quote Soulja Ghostface wrote: Jack 3enimble wrote: A tank can still be dominant in the field. Quit your bitching. I have a 10 mil tank alt and have no problem avoiding swarms or av scouts. Taking into consideration the amount of SP you have in tanks you should have even less of a problem with them. There has already been a vehicle respec btw. Unless the skill tree gets tinkered with. We never got our sp for logistic dropship or enforcers back But wait! They can still readd them to the game! I have watched the hot fixes and noticed it still very, VERY possible for them to readd them back to the game, and it wouldnt be that hard either, requiring a mere hotfix. Currently I've seen them add and edit skills (a vehicle armor skill and scout/assault skills), add vehicles and suits to the game w/ different textures and new item rows to the game (contact grenades and pilot suits) all of which could be used to remake the logi, scout, enforcer and marauder vehicles. ScP = GÖÑ If you like chiptune An Ace Pilot

SGT NOVA STAR 1.U.P 263	Posted - 2014.08.30 00:09:00 - [31] - Quote Draven Kjyu wrote: Nerfed my ass. I got popped with two sets of swarms from a min. commando proto, and I was running dual hardeners with 5k armor. Tell me how swarms have been nerfed? so you have no rep on an armor vehicle and wonder why you got killed? Lmao this made my week! VAYU! I CHOOSE YOU!
Heimdallr69 Nyain San General Tso's Alliance 3393	Posted - 2014.08.30 00:16:00 - [32] - Quote SGT NOVA STAR wrote: Draven Kjyu wrote: Nerfed my ass. I got popped with two sets of swarms from a min. commando proto, and I was running dual hardeners with 5k armor. Tell me how swarms have been nerfed? so you have no rep on an armor vehicle and wonder why you got killed? Lmao this made my week! Nice catch Lolz Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Nobinishi D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 22	Posted - 2014.08.30 00:29:00 - [33] - Quote Draven Kjyu wrote: Nerfed my ass. I got popped with two sets of swarms from a min. commando proto, and I was running dual hardeners with 5k armor. Tell me how swarms have been nerfed? A defenseless proto suited infantry unit with like roughly 600-800ish armor took out your 5k tank with proto swarms. IDK which is worse :- the fact that an infrantryman had enough time to kill you with swarms, or the fact you did not hop out to try find him, if it was possible, you sat on your 5k buffer + whatever ehp you had on your suit and swallowed it whole or the fact that after the first pop and if you received significant dmg, it did not register to go on the evasive or leave your 5k brick home So here is how it works..you get to roll around in a vehicle with alot of armor,firepower, high to average mobility along with resistance to light arms fire however with the trade off of being a big visual target and loud on the other hand the AVer gets to be inconspicuous, slow to average mobility with the trade off being vulnerable to YOU + small arms fire, limited EHP. However,the guy brought out his Sunday best to tango with you! And should have realized by the way you were taken out that the AVer is a niche player and not just your run of the mill an ordinary AVer. I would have found some solace in being killed by him/her. You finally got faced with a realistic threat in a one off instance and lost ! You have been clearly found wanting . But no props to the niche player who bested you..just b.itch on forums.... Check the Bass Bruh !! My bad still figurin' out the buttons..
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1242	Posted - 2014.08.30 02:04:00 - [34] - Quote Draven Kjyu wrote: You say that vehicles haven't been changed enough to deserve any respecs... It's not the fact that you've changed tanks, it's the fact that a full-proto tank can be taken out by a single person in a Min. Commando suit, or as just happened, a GK.0 Scout with proto swarms, and in less than a second or two. Tanks used to be viable. Now? Now, vehicles can't even land half of the time. You buffed the turrets, buffed the AV, buffed everything. The last thing you did to vehicles was nerf them. How can you say that buffing all of the AV and nerfing the vehicles themselves is not deserving of a respec? I have nearly 23m SP invested solely into vehicles, as well as probably $200 of aurum over time. Before the av buff and the vehicle nerf, you needed one tank to take out another tank. Now all you need is a swarm launcher and a nano hive, and you can sit out of a tanks' height limit and laugh as they run. So now, for the last time, either balance the av and tanks, give out respecs, or reintroduce the damned enforcer HAV's, Logistic/Scout LAV's, and the Logi Dropships! To put it blunt: Play the game and earn the SP instead of forum warrioring. People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 1065	Posted - 2014.08.30 02:07:00 - [35] - Quote op crying about a swarmer that's not min commando i'm a n00b tanker with a character that has 8 million sp and i don't usually die to swarms unless there's more than one *Eternal Beings* - #76 in All Time WP - #90 in All Time Kills. Member since day one, 10 months ago.
Pseudogenesis Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 391	Posted - 2014.08.30 06:39:00 - [36] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: True Adamance wrote: Draven Kjyu wrote: You say that vehicles haven't been changed enough to deserve any respecs... It's not the fact that you've changed tanks, it's the fact that a full-proto tank can be taken out by a single person in a Min. Commando suit, or as just happened, a GK.0 Scout with proto swarms, and in less than a second or two. Tanks used to be viable. Now? Now, vehicles can't even land half of the time. You buffed the turrets, buffed the AV, buffed everything. The last thing you did to vehicles was nerf them. How can you say that buffing all of the AV and nerfing the vehicles themselves is not deserving of a respec? I have nearly 23m SP invested solely into vehicles, as well as probably $200 of aurum over time. Before the av buff and the vehicle nerf, you needed one tank to take out another tank. Now all you need is a swarm launcher and a nano hive, and you can sit out of a tanks' height limit and laugh as they run. So now, for the last time, either balance the av and tanks, give out respecs, or reintroduce the damned enforcer HAV's, Logistic/Scout LAV's, and the Logi Dropships! You are 6 months too late bro.................... You apparently revelled in the 1.7 changes where your HAV was a death machine and ruined everyone's games and your results lulled you into thinking that being invincible and having the greatest fire power made you skilled at your craft...... RIP 1.3-1.5 where tankers were good and few disputed it. Mate RIP Chromosome. The best this game ever was by far. I dont know how one company can spend a year changing things yet still have an inferior product to the beta...... Viziam lasers would like a word with you. Stabby-stabber extraordinaire
Gemini Cuspid 127	Posted - 2014.08.30 07:12:00 - [37] - Quote Pseudogenesis wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: True Adamance wrote: Draven Kjyu wrote: You say that vehicles haven't been changed enough to deserve any respecs... It's not the fact that you've changed tanks, it's the fact that a full-proto tank can be taken out by a single person in a Min. Commando suit, or as just happened, a GK.0 Scout with proto swarms, and in less than a second or two. Tanks used to be viable. Now? Now, vehicles can't even land half of the time. You buffed the turrets, buffed the AV, buffed everything. The last thing you did to vehicles was nerf them. How can you say that buffing all of the AV and nerfing the vehicles themselves is not deserving of a respec? I have nearly 23m SP invested solely into vehicles, as well as probably $200 of aurum over time. Before the av buff and the vehicle nerf, you needed one tank to take out another tank. Now all you need is a swarm launcher and a nano hive, and you can sit out of a tanks' height limit and laugh as they run. So now, for the last time, either balance the av and tanks, give out respecs, or reintroduce the damned enforcer HAV's, Logistic/Scout LAV's, and the Logi Dropships! You are 6 months too late bro.................... You apparently revelled in the 1.7 changes where your HAV was a death machine and ruined everyone's games and your results lulled you into thinking that being invincible and having the greatest fire power made you skilled at your craft...... RIP 1.3-1.5 where tankers were good and few disputed it. Mate RIP Chromosome. The best this game ever was by far. I dont know how one company can spend a year changing things yet still have an inferior product to the beta...... Viziam lasers would like a word with you. But it is true sadly...A respec may be usually cried for because of how players have to change playstyle but I'd take the differing route and simply say we've invested in something that didn't come with the warning "will nerf so don't invest in me please". You can bring up lasers and I'll bring up my logi suit. I mean what is the role of a logi in this game even? Add to it that with changed roles and equipment and other fixes that still need attention, it kind of gives the thought that no one should have any skill points at all until they have a firm setting as to how this game will "finally" look like at the weapon, equipment and dropsuit level. It's really both sad and pathetic because everyone likes to drudge this topic up but few if any will actually understand that once CCP stops releasing equipment and new weapons and finally gets "fixes" in place, they can actually put in meaningful content in the form of new maps, challenges and the like. Hate to say it but I can't actually think of any FPS title except CCP where the developers seemed confused as to the direction of the game and the role of the players in the game. I've played FF14 when it launched and I had more fun with that title than I did Dust and they were both free when I played and FF14's launch act was a tough cookie to beat initially in so far as bombing as badly as SquareEnix did. But wow, CCP damningly found a way to do far worse with far less and still continue to surprise me to this day For the record FF14 launched with a metacritic of 49!!! Advance to today and it's now 89 while dust sits at 59... I need to both laugh and cry at this disparity where one game utterly sucked more than another title and can improve itself whereas another had HUGE potential and just landed nearly as bad as the relaunched Duke Nukem game.


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