DUST Search - Remote explosive timer doesn't work

Sequal Rise wrote:

Hi everybody!

I've been playing the whole day today, done maaany games, and on absolutely every games there was a bunch of scouts throwing remote everywhere having free kill. The problem is that the time before you can actually make the standard remote explode (it was ALWAYS a standard one) is supposed to be 4.0 sec (according to hotfix bravo spreadsheet - tweaks section) and those people weren't waiting more than 1-2 sec!

That's what's always happening:

1- A scout jump out of nowhere,
2- He throws a remote from a ridiculous range,
3- He quickly jumps while throwing the remote so at the moment it hits the ground, the remote had explode and everybody's dead..

There's maybe a tweak about jumping while throwing the remote cuz they always do this!
Moreover, the radius of the explosion is also bugged, sometimes it kills me while I'm 15 meters away..

Why not simply remove damage against infantry as long as the remote isn't at 3-4 meters arround a hardpoint? That would fix the problem!

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Sequal Rise Les Desanusseurs 32	Posted - 2014.08.29 00:15:00 - [1] - Quote Hi everybody! I've been playing the whole day today, done maaany games, and on absolutely every games there was a bunch of scouts throwing remote everywhere having free kill. The problem is that the time before you can actually make the standard remote explode (it was ALWAYS a standard one) is supposed to be 4.0 sec (according to hotfix bravo spreadsheet - tweaks section) and those people weren't waiting more than 1-2 sec! That's what's always happening: 1- A scout jump out of nowhere, 2- He throws a remote from a ridiculous range, 3- He quickly jumps while throwing the remote so at the moment it hits the ground, the remote had explode and everybody's dead.. There's maybe a tweak about jumping while throwing the remote cuz they always do this! Moreover, the radius of the explosion is also bugged, sometimes it kills me while I'm 15 meters away.. Why not simply remove damage against infantry as long as the remote isn't at 3-4 meters arround a hardpoint? That would fix the problem! Sorry for my bad english ^^
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 3608	Posted - 2014.08.29 00:54:00 - [2] - Quote 1) Could be lag. 2) He could be shooting the remote to trigger it? I hear that might be a thing, but am not 100 percent on that. 3) This is a glitch that needs looked into. From my experience as an RE user, it feels like the full 4 seconds for me. I am not able to detonate as soon as it hits the ground. However, I am also not carrying a mass driver or flaylock that may detonate the RE before the timer actually activates the RE. You can always tell a Millford Minja
Sigmunt Floyd Beyond Hypothetical Box 20	Posted - 2014.08.29 01:11:00 - [3] - Quote Sequal Rise wrote: Moreover, the radius of the explosion is also bugged, sometimes it kills me while I'm 15 meters away.. .Are you telling here about Kill Report?
Sequal Rise Les Desanusseurs 32	Posted - 2014.08.29 01:52:00 - [4] - Quote Sigmunt Floyd wrote: Sequal Rise wrote: Moreover, the radius of the explosion is also bugged, sometimes it kills me while I'm 15 meters away.. .Are you telling here about Kill Report? No man ^^ I know the kill report tells me where the player is at the moment I died, not the remote^^ I'm talking about the distance I am from a remote when it explode. I can't know precisely where it is but you know, you know when it's far and when it's on your feet ^^ Sorry for my bad english ^^
Sequal Rise Les Desanusseurs 32	Posted - 2014.08.29 01:54:00 - [5] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: 1) Could be lag. 2) He could be shooting the remote to trigger it? I hear that might be a thing, but am not 100 percent on that. 3) This is a glitch that needs looked into. From my experience as an RE user, it feels like the full 4 seconds for me. I am not able to detonate as soon as it hits the ground. However, I am also not carrying a mass driver or flaylock that may detonate the RE before the timer actually activates the RE. 1) Maybe, but that would mean there're lag absolutely all the time.. 2) I never really noticed that, but some may use this technique 3) Definitely. Maybe jumping makes the RE fall faster or idk what.. but I'm 100% sure that they weren't waiting 4 sec before detonating! Sorry for my bad english ^^
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 3621	Posted - 2014.08.29 20:06:00 - [6] - Quote Sequal Rise wrote: One Eyed King wrote: 1) Could be lag. 2) He could be shooting the remote to trigger it? I hear that might be a thing, but am not 100 percent on that. 3) This is a glitch that needs looked into. From my experience as an RE user, it feels like the full 4 seconds for me. I am not able to detonate as soon as it hits the ground. However, I am also not carrying a mass driver or flaylock that may detonate the RE before the timer actually activates the RE. 1) Maybe, but that would mean there're lag absolutely all the time.. 2) I never really noticed that, but some may use this technique 3) Definitely. Maybe jumping makes the RE fall faster or idk what.. but I'm 100% sure that they weren't waiting 4 sec before detonating! The fact he is jumping tells me that he is using a Mass Driver or Flaylock to detonate it. The reason being is that jumping before shooting one of those weapons is a technique often used to get a height advantage and use the splash damage. If I were you, I would try using REs yourself. Basic ones are cheap and useful, especially for AV, so even just trying it out or putting it on an alt would give you a good idea. Plus, you can test out your glitch hypothesis and give more direct feedback. In my experience using REs, I have not noticed this glitch. You can always tell a Millford Minja
IVIaster LUKE Shadow Company HQ Lokun Listamenn 673	Posted - 2014.08.31 13:53:00 - [7] - Quote shrugs Sometimes mercs don't see the 1st RE armed and ready, they just see the 2nd one that was thrown. Black Sheep and Lone Wolf all rolled into one. Don't send it...it won't be read. R.I.P. BENDECCO. 1970 - 2014
Sequal Rise Les Desanusseurs 33	Posted - 2014.09.01 00:45:00 - [8] - Quote Not when you see the scout getting out of its cover jumping to throw the RE like a grenade and destroy you in half a second ^^ Sorry for my bad english ^^
Hector Carson Hellz Gate of Awakening 7	Posted - 2014.09.01 02:04:00 - [9] - Quote Sequal Rise wrote: Hi everybody! I've been playing the whole day today, done maaany games, and on absolutely every games there was a bunch of scouts throwing remote everywhere having free kill. The problem is that the time before you can actually make the standard remote explode (it was ALWAYS a standard one) is supposed to be 4.0 sec (according to hotfix bravo spreadsheet - tweaks section) and those people weren't waiting more than 1-2 sec! That's what's always happening: 1- A scout jump out of nowhere, 2- He throws a remote from a ridiculous range, 3- He quickly jumps while throwing the remote so at the moment it hits the ground, the remote had explode and everybody's dead.. There's maybe a tweak about jumping while throwing the remote cuz they always do this! Moreover, the radius of the explosion is also bugged, sometimes it kills me while I'm 15 meters away.. Why not simply remove damage against infantry as long as the remote isn't at 3-4 meters arround a hardpoint? That would fix the problem! I've had this same problem bro don't feel bad
Sequal Rise Les Desanusseurs 35	Posted - 2014.09.02 01:56:00 - [10] - Quote Ok I tried it today for the first time and understood what's wrong with RE's: the timer of 4 secs starts from the moment you throw the RE, not when it touchs the ground. So basically this timer is useless causethe RE will explode instantly .-. GG ccp. Sorry for my bad english ^^

One Eyed King Land of the BIind 3691	Posted - 2014.09.02 03:02:00 - [11] - Quote Sequal Rise wrote: Ok I tried it today for the first time and understood what's wrong with RE's: the timer of 4 secs starts from the moment you throw the RE, not when it touchs the ground. So basically this timer is useless causethe RE will explode instantly .-. GG ccp. You are getting 4 second hang time on your RE throws? That is like a punt in American Football... You can always tell a Millford Minja
Sequal Rise Les Desanusseurs 36	Posted - 2014.09.02 10:43:00 - [12] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Sequal Rise wrote: Ok I tried it today for the first time and understood what's wrong with RE's: the timer of 4 secs starts from the moment you throw the RE, not when it touchs the ground. So basically this timer is useless causethe RE will explode instantly .-. GG ccp. You are getting 4 second hang time on your RE throws? That is like a punt in American Football... Nonono x) What I tried to say is that the timer begins when you throw the remote, not when it actually reach the ground. I thought it was like: -throw the remote -reach the ground (timer starts) -wait 4 secs and BOUM! But it's: -throw remote (timer starts), -even if it has just touched the ground, BOUM. So basically the timer is useless. Sorry for my bad english ^^
lee corwood Knights Of Ender RISE of LEGION 1041	Posted - 2014.09.04 20:11:00 - [13] - Quote While sometimes annoying, the hang time I don't mind. But I do think CCP needs to look into how these remotes are detonating people much farther away than stated. I use remotes a lot but mostly proxies on the ground or REs to the back of a tank's bumper. Proxies tend to slide for a bit on the ground before they stick especially when you're moving. I've heard countless complaints from corpmates and other forum users that scouts are throwing remotes and the remotes migrate. I assumed they were just not paying attention or that more than one had been planted, but then I watched it happen in match to a fellow blueberry. The throw happened, I saw the remote hit the ground and the sound associated with eq placement. Then I saw it glitch and appear under the BB's feet. It was like a lag/delayed slide that pushed it across the ground not where the initial animation 'placed' it. I really wish I had been recording when this had happened. Knights of Ender Director Logi 4 Life \| Youtube Vids
John Psi Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance 891	Posted - 2014.09.07 23:23:00 - [14] - Quote video Please support fair play!
Sequal Rise Les Desanusseurs 38	Posted - 2014.09.09 10:54:00 - [15] - Quote Thanks for sharing this John Psi :) Sorry for my bad english ^^
Happy Violentime OMFGZOMBIESRUN 801	Posted - 2014.09.09 12:30:00 - [16] - Quote John Psi wrote: I'm a scrub Fixed that for you. Go play another game. Dust will be better off without you.
Hector Carson Hellz Gate of Awakening 7	Posted - 2014.09.09 16:51:00 - [17] - Quote honestly if this wasn't mentioned, but if there are a lot of explosions around in your area that could have triggered the RE by accident. Just a possibility


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