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Night 5talker 514
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Posted - 2014.08.26 21:12:00 -
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Hey Guys,
General Discussion: Do you think the scrambler is OP after watching the video? (check the video comments before replying - I've listed all the kills) (please comment on the video and the forums if possible :) )
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Night 5talker 514
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Posted - 2014.08.26 21:36:00 -
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sabre prime wrote:That was funny as ****.
The only thing OP is the power of skill points. Once you break through those barriers and have over 30mill, then you just become innately better. I'll never get there.
EDIT: Your killboard showed 42 kills, but you list 43 kills in the youtube vid?
I went through the vid an paused at every kill a few times, it's 43 as far as I could tell... or I made a mistake. If anyone has the patience to triple check for me I'd appreciate it. I think a kill was missed off the final score though
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Night 5talker 514
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Posted - 2014.08.27 08:37:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote:Night 5talker 514 wrote:Hey Guys,
General Discussion: Do you think the scrambler is OP after watching the video? (check the video comments before replying - I've listed all the kills)
snip A huge number of weapon complaints since closed beta were about the protoypes of various weapons. That also doesn't indicate if the weapon was OP or people were forced to use them to be competitive. The video was very enjoyable, so thank you. I appreciate the amount of details given although I'd like to know if or how many light complex damage mods were fitted? Aside the tactical movements of the Sentinels & Scouts were mostly terrible. Trying breach tight CQB areas with no armor or advancing on open ground with a short range weapon? They were spoon feeding you kills except for that one spot in the stairwell when it appeared like hit-detection might have glitched bad. Maybe a video using an ADV Frame and ScR? Edit: Feck'n auto correct.
Thanks, really appreciate it! There were no damage mods fitted, I have prof 4 in both weapons however. Also, I've been using the ScR since the day it came out so am severely aware of what it can and can't do.
I'll do a fitting video soon about this fit ^^
Agreed, they were essentially feeding me kills due to what I assume was their frustration.
I personally feel the data mining of pub matches doesn't truly indicate if a weapon is op or not. People saying "the numbers say it's being over used" maybe have not been in a lot of PC battles where against proper fits you really start to see how the ScR performs.
The problem I tried to highlight here in this video is that It's maybe getting over used due to the match making or the suits people are using. In the case of the video, the suits people were using, the poor decisions made and perhaps my experience with logi support lead to what could, on the surface, look OP.
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Night 5talker 514
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Posted - 2014.08.27 08:41:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:You kept using your SMG after taking out shields.
PRO TIP: Keep firing until you're about to overheat, THEN switch to the SMG to finish off the remainder of their HP (or cook a grenade behind cover to alpha a heavy's armor even more)
hehe I'm preparing for a nerf so trying to get used to simply switching as soon as the enemy is in armour so when a nerf happens I am still effective (hopefully haha)
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Posted - 2014.08.27 08:45:00 -
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Groz'zar Kazoku wrote:Like a few people have said all I see is proto slaughter in this video. Proto vs STD suits. but all proto is OP against STD thats how it was intended. Also I see him getting a lot of headshots. Not finishing headshots but headshots none the less. So that also adds to the ease of killing.
Aim small miss small is my philosophy
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Night 5talker 514
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Posted - 2014.08.27 08:53:00 -
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medomai grey wrote:Your video does not make an argument for or against scrambler rifles being OP. There is no discussion of balance, mechanics, comparisons made to other rifles, etc.
Furthermore the narrator is using all proto gear with logistic support against adv. and basic, making it difficult to gauge the overall effectiveness of scrambler rifles in general.
The problem I tried to highlight here in this video is that It's maybe getting over used due to the match making or the suits people are using. In the case of the video, the suits people were using, the poor decisions made and perhaps my experience with logi support lead to what could, on the surface, look OP.
Take into account CCP is mining data from pub matches where many, many people use std and adv fits. Those of us using proto are decimating them. I feel as a result the data mining is being twisted somewhat out of shape. If I look at PC matches I've played I am 9/10 times the only ScR user on the field.
The fact that you say "Furthermore the narrator is using all proto gear with logistic support against adv. and basic, making it difficult to gauge the overall effectiveness of scrambler rifles in general." Is my point exactly. With CCP mining data from these situations over and over again the end result will be distorted. This I feel is incorrect, perhaps if match making were better (for example) ccp could mine data from somewhat less unbiased situations.
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Posted - 2014.08.27 08:54:00 -
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Monty Mole Clone wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Actually I just gave the CPM a heads up yesterday that the scrambler is outperforming other rifles right now, yet the assault scrambler is one of the worst performers, along with all the GA Assault Rifles, still...Straight Yes the ScR is OP and the data shows it! Prepare your **** you should prepare your anus for all the scram users skilling into combat rifles
haha, already skilled into it and have prof 4 ready. I use it on my commando fits for armour targets and ScR just to strip the shields.
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Posted - 2014.08.28 05:10:00 -
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CRNWLLC wrote:Yeah, of course it's OP. That's why you see so many of them in the killfeed. It's a selective fire weapon that causes considerable feedback damage if overheated. Using it well requires good timing and environmental awareness (ie, take cover during cool down). It's hipfire is terrible past 30m, and it truly does have its work cut out for it against heavily armored enemies. CCP Rattati wrote:Actually I just gave the CPM a heads up yesterday that the scrambler is outperforming other rifles right now, yet the assault scrambler is one of the worst performers, along with all the GA Assault Rifles, still...Straight What does this even mean? That there's more players using the ScR? Or that the ones using it are using it to greater effect? I'm inclined to think it's the latter because, again, I don't see many ScRs in the killfeed.
I hope it's the latter also ^^
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Night 5talker 514
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Posted - 2014.08.28 14:08:00 -
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2k2y wrote:Maybe you could do another video about the laser rifle. I think the last time you uploaded one to youtube was before it was buffed.
Hey, thanks for the suggestion. Actually gonna be doing that very soon as I've had a few people request it :) Think I will do one vid with the assault and one with the commando if possible ^^
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Posted - 2014.08.29 07:44:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Yup, just add a turbo or kbm. So fix it, fix it.
Do you mean fix the ScR? I think it may be best as many others have mentioned to place a jamming feature into the game where such turbo or modded controller/kbm's are being used to mitigate their usage as other games have done. Better than nerfing the weapon, which may not be the root cause.
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Posted - 2014.08.30 21:50:00 -
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Ripcord19981 wrote:Zindorak wrote:Nvm I used the RR and its pretty good at what it does. I just hate how a militia/standard one can chew you up to pieces. standard cr could chew u up to peaces, so can a nova knife, or even scrambler in the right hands. Whats your point? also skills make a large impact.
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