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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.08.26 22:40:00 -
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Dont need to watch the video to know the SCR is OP. This has been the case for a long time. I just dealt with it. But seeing as though RR arguments existed in almost the same plane as SCR without SCRs being properly looked at, I think its time we do so in the effort of balance.
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.08.26 22:50:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:I feel that the ScR QQ run Cal Assault with OP RR. They need to HTFU and Git Gud
Could you express what you're saying a bit clearer?
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.08.26 23:01:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Zindorak wrote:I feel that the ScR QQ run Cal Assault with OP RR. They need to HTFU and Git Gud Could you express what you're saying a bit clearer? I'll translate: I feel that the ScR QQ'ers run Cal Assault with the OP RR. They need to HTFU and Git Gud
You dont need to translate but express yourself clearer. That srntence doesnt express your viewpoint clearly. Judging by the context, I think you're saying Cal players need to HTFU.
When Im by a keyboard. I will express why I think you're ignorant in the matter if what I think you're saying is correct.
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.08.26 23:28:00 -
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Ah, I couldn't see someone else responded. Couldn't see that on my mobile while out and about.
I think the Caldari players handled the SCR pretty well for a long time. Most of my squadmates and corpmates were Caldari and we would always warn our brothers of who were the SCR users on the battlefield, never taking them straight on. I might see a complaint here and there, back then on the forums, but it wasn't that loud.
Also Caldari players had limited weapon choices. For me, since my origin was assault, it was the AR. The GEK was trusty and we dealt with players complaining about that until its nerf. The old saying "to beat a thing, you must become that thing" didn't work with us. To use a SCR was pointless and to many, it wasn't Caldari so why use it?
Then we finally got our prize weapon, the RR. And boy, did people band together to get that nerfed. We looked at the complaints baffled. For so long we dealt with LRs and SCRs that melted us like hot butter but oh no, the RR is too OP and we must change that. Gotta love those double standards.
Still, even after the nerf of RR, folks still didn't complain about SCR as much as people who faced our RR. But words keep getting tossed around such as "in the effort of balance". Well, if we going to talk about a balance, then SCR needs to be put on that chopping block as well. It has had a nice run, especially the Viziam. But its not on par with other rifles. To simply say "git gud" is stupid. That mentality should have been there when you complained about the RR.
Of course people might read that as a vindictive nerf, but on the contrary its not. True Caldari players have toughed it out on the battlefield against weapons that would absolutely decimate our shield defenses quickly while having their preferred dropsuits and weapons nerfed because the opposition or better yet, General Discussions, wouldn't git gud.
Besides the background information in response to Caldari players need to stop QQing quote, which we have not for the longest of time, the SCR needs to be looked at in the effort of balance
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.08.26 23:51:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:
Use the ARR less scruby then i won't complain. Maybe only if they get annoying to deal with like the RR
People crack me up with those opinions thrown around. "I use such and such because its hardmode. What you use is scrub mode". It shows a lack of insight and understanding.
In all seriousness, the ARR, by your supposed definition, is actually a scrub weapon. You have to just point and shoot. With its high damage rate, you can really do some damage with a ARR.
With an RR, because of its projectile fire, you have to lead your targets at the cost of losing precious ammo because of the way it fires if facing against a good strafing player who doesn't run in the same pattern. Plus with the damage reduction, you shots have to hit the mark or you find yourself vulnerable to fire.
People who complain about RR are being silly. The RR is nowhere near what it was once it was first introduced. I don't think you were around for that.
I also guess you're not a shield tanker, so of course a SCR is not annoying to you and of course you don't see how its OP.
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.08.26 23:54:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Zindorak wrote:
Use the ARR less scruby then i won't complain. Maybe only if they get annoying to deal with like the RR
People crack me up with those opinions thrown around. "I use such and such because its hardmode. What you use is scrub mode". It shows a lack of insight and understanding. In all seriousness, the ARR, by your supposed definition, is actually a scrub weapon. You have to just point and shoot. With its high damage rate, you can really do some damage with a ARR. With an RR, because of its projectile fire, you have to lead your targets at the cost of losing precious ammo because of the way it fires if facing against a good strafing player who doesn't run in the same pattern. Plus with the damage reduction, you shots have to hit the mark or you find yourself vulnerable to fire. People who complain about RR are being silly. The RR is nowhere near what it was once it was first introduced. I don't think you were around for that. I also guess you're not a shield tanker, so of course a SCR is not annoying to you and of course you don't see how its OP. wat i feel its harder to get kills with ARR than RR o-0
Ok
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