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HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 372	Posted - 2014.08.25 20:22:00 - [1] - Quote My personal experience has been if your not winning (and even when you are ) there's usually some idiot kids running around in the redline killing each other or just following you team killing and destroying equipment. Just dumb, no wonder nobody plays it. Lonewolf till I die
Vapor Forseti Ancient Textiles. 1301	Posted - 2014.08.25 20:30:00 - [2] - Quote You are spot-on. A few weeks ago, I placed several uplinks around Alpha, then these two douchebags from Nobliesse.Oblige (from my team) destroyed all my equipment. I stood there for a few seconds trying to imagine why they would do that. Lo and behold, one kills me and the other revives me 10+ times. Match ended abruptly after that. I hit the roof. Never again will I play factional. I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes.
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 814	Posted - 2014.08.25 20:34:00 - [3] - Quote Not very familiar with awoxing are ya? You'll get used to it. Assault since Replication. We've come full circle. Finally.
2Berries Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 241	Posted - 2014.08.25 20:38:00 - [4] - Quote My only problem with awoxing is there only seems to be one place they go to do it, caldari. Expand your horizons, people! Burning through clones like Rusty Venture.
HYENAKILLER X WILL FIGHT ANYONE 772	Posted - 2014.08.25 20:57:00 - [5] - Quote I cannot fkng wait for that team kill sht to get fixed. I say month long ban on anyone who tks twice in one game.i mean the entire account and not just the character. Also why would I waite 5 minutes to play fw when it takes 30 seconds for every other game mode. If they made th fw sceduled it would mean more. You cant find a weapon in DESTINY that looks cooler than the viziam or a suit that look better than the basic gal proto.
Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 1059	Posted - 2014.08.25 21:07:00 - [6] - Quote Team killing, AFK'ers, q-synced teams, long wait, minimal reward if you lose, no ISK. Hmmmm, no clue as to why peoole don't like FW. Because, that's why.
Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 1059	Posted - 2014.08.25 21:08:00 - [7] - Quote Increasing payout though means that at least I play it sometimes now. Because, that's why.
Groz'zar Kazoku Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 59	Posted - 2014.08.25 21:17:00 - [8] - Quote First offence in a week. 1 day. did it gain less then a week after your back: 1 week block Did it again after that week wears off: month long ban meaning 30days. I think the scaling punishment would be better then just doing it for a day. because lets be honest for a day the trolls will think its worth it.
Riruodo Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 27	Posted - 2014.08.25 21:17:00 - [9] - Quote I like it, but it takes soooo long before FW starts. Are there few people playing or what? Also, I'm Rp-ing Caldari, so I only play Caldari FW... and I have yet to win a game. (T-T ) My other car is Utena
buzzzzzzz killllllllll Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 666	Posted - 2014.08.25 21:27:00 - [10] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: I cannot fkng wait for that team kill sht to get fixed. I say month long ban on anyone who tks twice in one game.i mean the entire account and not just the character. Also why would I waite 5 minutes to play fw when it takes 30 seconds for every other game mode. If they made th fw sceduled it would mean more. play a pub, stop bitching /fixed

Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 3175	Posted - 2014.08.25 21:30:00 - [11] - Quote Not with ECHELON! Queue the royal trumpets Most of the horrible team players are in Caldari, anyways.
ImIvan 20	Posted - 2014.08.25 21:31:00 - [12] - Quote It's the fact that if you lose you don't get **** too... Why must you use prototypes?
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 508	Posted - 2014.08.25 21:48:00 - [13] - Quote Riruodo wrote: I like it, but it takes soooo long before FW starts. Are there few people playing or what? Also, I'm Rp-ing Caldari, so I only play Caldari FW... and I have yet to win a game. (T-T ) I run caldari suits too. The Caldari FW is notoriously ****. Most the awoxing bullshit comes from gallente being faggots sending players to Caldari to troll all while stomping as hard as they can. It's been that way since the LP FW started in 1.7.
TEBOW BAGGINS GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING 1172	Posted - 2014.08.25 21:53:00 - [14] - Quote trying to random squad in FW sounds pretty fail. i only go in it when ppl i like squading with are on. AKA Zirzo Valcyn AFKing since 2012
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 13030	Posted - 2014.08.25 22:00:00 - [15] - Quote It's not popular because there is nothing special to it. Factional Gear is visually no different than "Neo" gear. Its functionally no different and thus less valuable for the efforts you put in and the risks you take. You cannot influence EVE's FW Dust side. You cannot choose where to fight and when to fight or to run, you cannot plex under the radar or be bit by pirates. FW provides no benefits for corporations involved in its "Pendulum War". Dust players will never be acknowledged by CCP for their actions in it. Dust does not ask for loyalty to one specific faction at a time, does not handle standings, and actions have little to no significance as such Militia's cannot regulate themselves. Factional Warfare was insanely popular once when people cared who they fought for and took pride in it. "We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 1081	Posted - 2014.08.25 22:04:00 - [16] - Quote Wait time. Generally only get a small window the play so every five minutes means something. Your game f'ing sucks, but I'll still play it, damn you! Turns out I wont.
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 6687	Posted - 2014.08.25 22:04:00 - [17] - Quote Groz'zar Kazoku wrote: First offence in a week. 1 day. did it gain less then a week after your back: 1 week block Did it again after that week wears off: month long ban meaning 30days. I think the scaling punishment would be better then just doing it for a day. because lets be honest for a day the trolls will think its worth it. I would never drop an Orbital EVER. RIP EVE side. FA's Stabber Extraordinaire Minmatar Enthusiast Explosions and Bulletstorm? Count me in!
vincent FF7 514 sephiroth clones 21	Posted - 2014.08.25 22:37:00 - [18] - Quote The problem? Console gamers are ******** when it comes to team based play. That and guys just want their items from LP store. And they dont care how they get it, since now you get a nice payout for losing
Zindorak 1.U.P 674	Posted - 2014.08.25 22:39:00 - [19] - Quote HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: My personal experience has been if your not winning (and even when you are ) there's usually some idiot kids running around in the redline killing each other or just following you team killing and destroying equipment. Just dumb, no wonder nobody plays it. Well what else are you supposed to do? Pokemon master! CCP undo ScP nerf. It hurt my feering very bad
Ryme Intrinseca 1626	Posted - 2014.08.25 23:03:00 - [20] - Quote vincent FF7 514 wrote: The problem? Console gamers are ******** when it comes to team based play. Yes cos Awox himself was totally a console player and definitely not an Eve pilot

KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 1352	Posted - 2014.08.25 23:21:00 - [21] - Quote Vapor Forseti wrote: You are spot-on. A few weeks ago, I placed several uplinks around Alpha, then these two douchebags from Nobliesse.Oblige (from my team) destroyed all my equipment. I stood there for a few seconds trying to imagine why they would do that. Lo and behold, one kills me and the other revives me 10+ times. Match ended abruptly after that. I hit the roof. Never again will I play factional. Welcome to CCP. That is exactly the behavior that they reward in EVE Online. When it happens at a large enough scale CCP gets PR from headlines 'EVE Online traitor cost $2500). Thus FW sucks. Even with triple LP. And so it goes.
vincent FF7 514 sephiroth clones 22	Posted - 2014.08.25 23:27:00 - [22] - Quote Ryme Intrinseca wrote: vincent FF7 514 wrote: The problem? Console gamers are ******** when it comes to team based play. Yes cos Awox himself was totally a console player and definitely not an Eve pilot The butthurt reply. Should I answer or will it just further confuse you? What Awox did is natural play of EVE Online. New Eden is built on treachery and deceit. In that environment one should expect such In the console gaming world that level of play is not there yet because you and I both know, little console brat gamers would make up petitions and protest if they were faced with being 3rd place because of a AWOXER What's also funny is if you took console players and put them on EVE, they wouldn't be nearly half as coordinated as EVE pilots or PC players as a whole. Of course there's the exceptional few, that's a given. We've seen those in MAG and SOCOM, but look how those games were played by a small group and not a larger console gamer population. The majority of console players are used to being number one without understanding that you gotta have chiefs and indians. A pub match in Dust, COD and BF is evident of the attitude of console players. On PC, it's a different story.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 13030	Posted - 2014.08.25 23:28:00 - [23] - Quote KalOfTheRathi wrote: Vapor Forseti wrote: You are spot-on. A few weeks ago, I placed several uplinks around Alpha, then these two douchebags from Nobliesse.Oblige (from my team) destroyed all my equipment. I stood there for a few seconds trying to imagine why they would do that. Lo and behold, one kills me and the other revives me 10+ times. Match ended abruptly after that. I hit the roof. Never again will I play factional. Welcome to CCP. That is exactly the behavior that they reward in EVE Online. When it happens at a large enough scale CCP gets PR from headlines 'EVE Online traitor cost $2500). Thus FW sucks. Even with triple LP. That behaviour is not rewarded in EVE FW Militia's though. If someone AWOXes you like that and remains in the Militia you wardec them and make their lives a living hell just like PIE Inc is doing now against a Blood Raider Rper. However in Dust 514 militia regulation is punished by a kick and a loss of standing and currently has no means of players being able to set standings or freely declare groups their enemies. "We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
Michael Arck 5257	Posted - 2014.08.25 23:30:00 - [24] - Quote I keep hearing how FW in EVE is different. Something along the lines that you have to "sign up" for it or something like that? I heard its a bit stricter and not as loose as it is in Dust. Archistrategos *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain*
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 383	Posted - 2014.08.25 23:43:00 - [25] - Quote So console gaming is for babies/idiots... what does that make an eve pilot that plays it? Sounds like a horrible PC player trying to feel better about himself by dominating said babies/idiots, after being beaten by skilled PC gamers.?? P.s. The next post is by a tranny. Lonewolf till I die
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 13030	Posted - 2014.08.25 23:49:00 - [26] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: I keep hearing how FW in EVE is different. Something along the lines that you have to "sign up" for it or something like that? I heard its a bit stricter and not as loose as it is in Dust. You have to make the choice to align yourself with a specific Militia. In doing do you gain access to FW for that specific faction and its allies. You gain specific tags that indicate WT (war targets) in system and allied Militia pilots, The whole system is more flexible, stricter in some ways, lenient in others. Its a community of players with the same goal which can be self regulated by the Militia corporations themselves. Its a system that encourages long term spying, long term loyalty, and co-operation. It encourages players not solely use their LP for their own betterment but for the betterment of the Militia, buffering Ihubs to improve system bonuses and quality of life knowing that by investing in the Militia and your controlled systems you will earn that LP back twice or three times over. Its a system that supports a 23/7 war and all of the pilots involved in it. "We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 511	Posted - 2014.08.26 00:07:00 - [27] - Quote vincent FF7 514 wrote: Ryme Intrinseca wrote: vincent FF7 514 wrote: The problem? Console gamers are ******** when it comes to team based play. Yes cos Awox himself was totally a console player and definitely not an Eve pilot The butthurt reply. Should I answer or will it just further confuse you? What Awox did is natural play of EVE Online. New Eden is built on treachery and deceit. In that environment one should expect such In the console gaming world that level of play is not there yet because you and I both know, little console brat gamers would make up petitions and protest if they were faced with being 3rd place because of a AWOXER What's also funny is if you took console players and put them on EVE, they wouldn't be nearly half as coordinated as EVE pilots or PC players as a whole. Of course there's the exceptional few, that's a given. We've seen those in MAG and SOCOM, but look how those games were played by a small group and not a larger console gamer population. The majority of console players are used to being number one without understanding that you gotta have chiefs and indians. A pub match in Dust, COD and BF is evident of the attitude of console players. On PC, it's a different story. As someone who played, quake, unreal, halo, counter strike, battlefield 1942, etc. etc. I call bullshit to you claiming PC is different. They aren't, teamwork is always OP no matter what platform you use/game you play, most people PERIOD act like lemmings in team based games.
vincent FF7 514 sephiroth clones 22	Posted - 2014.08.26 00:15:00 - [28] - Quote TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: I will say anything to defend console gamers. Console gamers get butthurt so easily lol
Ryme Intrinseca 1627	Posted - 2014.08.26 00:41:00 - [29] - Quote vincent FF7 514 wrote: Ryme Intrinseca wrote: vincent FF7 514 wrote: The problem? Console gamers are ******** when it comes to team based play. Yes cos Awox himself was totally a console player and definitely not an Eve pilot The butthurt reply. Should I answer or will it just further confuse you? What Awox did is natural play of EVE Online. New Eden is built on treachery and deceit. In that environment one should expect such In the console gaming world that level of play is not there yet because you and I both know, little console brat gamers would make up petitions and protest if they were faced with being 3rd place because of a AWOXER What's also funny is if you took console players and put them on EVE, they wouldn't be nearly half as coordinated as EVE pilots or PC players as a whole. Of course there's the exceptional few, that's a given. We've seen those in MAG and SOCOM, but look how those games were played by a small group and not a larger console gamer population. The majority of console players are used to being number one without understanding that you gotta have chiefs and indians. A pub match in Dust, COD and BF is evident of the attitude of console players. On PC, it's a different story. You are disturbingly detached from reality. Fact is there is more teamwork in Dust than there is in 90% of PC-origin FPSes. Doom, Quake, Unreal Tournament, Counter Strike, Battlefield, Call of Duty, Crysis, etc. are not exactly packed with logi trains are they. Git gud or go back to the PC kiddy pool, scrub.
Michael Arck 5258	Posted - 2014.08.26 00:50:00 - [30] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Michael Arck wrote: I keep hearing how FW in EVE is different. Something along the lines that you have to "sign up" for it or something like that? I heard its a bit stricter and not as loose as it is in Dust. You have to make the choice to align yourself with a specific Militia. In doing do you gain access to FW for that specific faction and its allies. You gain specific tags that indicate WT (war targets) in system and allied Militia pilots, The whole system is more flexible, stricter in some ways, lenient in others. Its a community of players with the same goal which can be self regulated by the Militia corporations themselves. Its a system that encourages long term spying, long term loyalty, and co-operation. It encourages players not solely use their LP for their own betterment but for the betterment of the Militia, buffering Ihubs to improve system bonuses and quality of life knowing that by investing in the Militia and your controlled systems you will earn that LP back twice or three times over. Its a system that supports a 23/7 war and all of the pilots involved in it. Now that sounds like a FW I would want to play. A bit more serious and organized better. I guess it goes without saying but I really hate FW on Dust 514. Such a letdown as a whole. And I was so excited about it too after the enhancements but in the end, it means nothing. o7 to you PIE guys though. I was really impressed with how you guys operated yourselves.. You guys were my inspiration on how a factional corporation, dedication and RP should be about when playing FW. Archistrategos *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain*

Ryme Intrinseca 1628	Posted - 2014.08.26 01:07:00 - [31] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: True Adamance wrote: Michael Arck wrote: I keep hearing how FW in EVE is different. Something along the lines that you have to "sign up" for it or something like that? I heard its a bit stricter and not as loose as it is in Dust. You have to make the choice to align yourself with a specific Militia. In doing do you gain access to FW for that specific faction and its allies. You gain specific tags that indicate WT (war targets) in system and allied Militia pilots, The whole system is more flexible, stricter in some ways, lenient in others. Its a community of players with the same goal which can be self regulated by the Militia corporations themselves. Its a system that encourages long term spying, long term loyalty, and co-operation. It encourages players not solely use their LP for their own betterment but for the betterment of the Militia, buffering Ihubs to improve system bonuses and quality of life knowing that by investing in the Militia and your controlled systems you will earn that LP back twice or three times over. Its a system that supports a 23/7 war and all of the pilots involved in it. Now that sounds like a FW I would want to play. A bit more serious and organized better. I guess it goes without saying but I really hate FW on Dust 514. Such a letdown as a whole. And I was so excited about it too after the enhancements but in the end, it means nothing. Maybe they should make it so to join, say, Caldari FW you need to have (1) got at least 500 kills (or WP equivalent) in the last month (counts all pubs, FW and PC) and (2) not played FW for Gallente in the last two months, Minmatar in the last month, or Amarr in the last two weeks. This locks out both throwaway alts and players aligned with other factions.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 13031	Posted - 2014.08.26 01:10:00 - [32] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: True Adamance wrote: Michael Arck wrote: I keep hearing how FW in EVE is different. Something along the lines that you have to "sign up" for it or something like that? I heard its a bit stricter and not as loose as it is in Dust. You have to make the choice to align yourself with a specific Militia. In doing do you gain access to FW for that specific faction and its allies. You gain specific tags that indicate WT (war targets) in system and allied Militia pilots, The whole system is more flexible, stricter in some ways, lenient in others. Its a community of players with the same goal which can be self regulated by the Militia corporations themselves. Its a system that encourages long term spying, long term loyalty, and co-operation. It encourages players not solely use their LP for their own betterment but for the betterment of the Militia, buffering Ihubs to improve system bonuses and quality of life knowing that by investing in the Militia and your controlled systems you will earn that LP back twice or three times over. Its a system that supports a 23/7 war and all of the pilots involved in it. Now that sounds like a FW I would want to play. A bit more serious and organized better. I guess it goes without saying but I really hate FW on Dust 514. Such a letdown as a whole. And I was so excited about it too after the enhancements but in the end, it means nothing. o7 to you PIE guys though. I was really impressed with how you guys operated yourselves.. You guys were my inspiration on how a factional corporation, dedication and RP should be about when playing FW. RP is the only thing I still have to do with Dust 514..... I still had another 5 years of content planned for Kador and Satja.... not to mention having to write up a combined 45 years of lore for their pasts is pretty time consuming as well. "We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1930	Posted - 2014.08.26 02:47:00 - [33] - Quote I predicted FF would kill FW. Everybody supported it. Now look. There is no control over the team organization hence, FF does not work. It undermines the game. AWOXing and sabotage are something that work within the context of spying and the like from within a corporation. Random blue TK is a whole different animal, especially within the context of an enclosed environment like DUST. This is not an open world sandbox like EVE. Legion is supposed to add that element. Brick tanking a scout suit since April 2013!
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3195	Posted - 2014.08.26 03:15:00 - [34] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: I say month long ban on anyone who tks twice in one game.i mean the entire account and not just the character. It's clear that you are new to New Eden. The proper way to handle someone who team kills you, is to find them and team kill them back. :) CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3195	Posted - 2014.08.26 03:16:00 - [35] - Quote Nothing Certain wrote: Increasing payout though means that at least I play it sometimes now. I'm glad to hear. I still think FacWar needs to be even more rewarding than it is though. It is very possibly the best game mode we have in this game right now, but the rewards have been poor, so it hasn't been appealing. I think FacWar should be more profitable than pubs. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Ryme Intrinseca 1636	Posted - 2014.08.26 09:21:00 - [36] - Quote Even if they did something about TKing (see my suggestion above) youve still got the fact that fw is laggy as **** - unbearable for me. Tho people will fling excrement at me for suggesting it, i think things would be better if gal/cal was on eu server and min/ama on us server. Reduction to the animation and sound footprint of equipment would also help.
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 609	Posted - 2014.08.26 10:06:00 - [37] - Quote 2Berries wrote: My only problem with awoxing is there only seems to be one place they go to do it, caldari. Expand your horizons, people! with out caldari the gallente wont be able to do FW due to lack of partisipants [[LogiBro in Training]] Level 1 Forum Pariah
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 609	Posted - 2014.08.26 10:07:00 - [38] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Nothing Certain wrote: Increasing payout though means that at least I play it sometimes now. I'm glad to hear. I still think FacWar needs to be even more rewarding than it is though. It is very possibly the best game mode we have in this game right now, but the rewards have been poor, so it hasn't been appealing. I think FacWar should be more profitable than pubs. the only "pay out" i dislike is how low the LP payout is for loseing i do however like that we get soooo much salvage from FW including officer and complex moduals and advanced+ dropsuits [[LogiBro in Training]] Level 1 Forum Pariah
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 609	Posted - 2014.08.26 10:09:00 - [39] - Quote Nothing Certain wrote: Team killing, AFK'ers, q-synced teams, long wait, minimal reward if you lose, no ISK. Hmmmm, no clue as to why people don't like FW. get rid of Q-sync and fights might be alot less 1 sided meaning people might actually sign up on the not soo popular sides and fw will run more often [[LogiBro in Training]] Level 1 Forum Pariah
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 2315	Posted - 2014.08.26 10:11:00 - [40] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Nothing Certain wrote: Increasing payout though means that at least I play it sometimes now. I'm glad to hear. I still think FacWar needs to be even more rewarding than it is though. It is very possibly the best game mode we have in this game right now, but the rewards have been poor, so it hasn't been appealing. I think FacWar should be more profitable than pubs. This. My usual solution to awoxers is usually to burst HMG them after they kill me once. Or thump them with a mass driver. Or lob a plasma cannon shot at them. Fairly effective.

Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 2316	Posted - 2014.08.26 10:15:00 - [41] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: Nothing Certain wrote: Team killing, AFK'ers, q-synced teams, long wait, minimal reward if you lose, no ISK. Hmmmm, no clue as to why people don't like FW. get rid of Q-sync and fights might be alot less 1 sided meaning people might actually sign up on the not soo popular sides and fw will run more often Getting rid of Q-sync is impossible. As long as you have comms available you can q-sync. All you do tlis be on comms, count down from 3 and the two squad leaders hit "join battle" simultaneously. Its not cheating, its coordinating. People do that to enhance their chances of winning. And if you remove comms from DUST (which will not happen) q-sync squads will simply swap to skype, mumble, teamspeak. Hell even skype group calls.
Night 5talker 514 Freek Coalition Freek Alliance 289	Posted - 2014.08.26 10:25:00 - [42] - Quote I'm loving FW more than ever. If you're organised and someone tries to TK you, just have your squad turn and melt them, revive and repeat. If you don't like Awoxing then don't get involved in the EVE Universe, that's the sad truth. I've played EVE for about 5 years on and off and I can tell you I've awoxed, been awoxed, stolen, scammed and been scammed (but not for much lol). It's part of the game. If you plan on playing Legion, then I would suggest getting used to it as it'll probably only get more prevalent. Gaming Freek DUST 514 YouTube Channel
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 2316	Posted - 2014.08.26 10:29:00 - [43] - Quote Night 5talker 514 wrote: I'm loving FW more than ever. If you're organised and someone tries to TK you, just have your squad turn and melt them, revive and repeat. If you don't like Awoxing then don't get involved in the EVE Universe, that's the sad truth. I've played EVE for about 5 years on and off and I can tell you I've awoxed, been awoxed, stolen, scammed and been scammed (but not for much lol). It's part of the game. If you plan on playing Legion, then I would suggest getting used to it as it'll probably only get more prevalent. Oh thank you for reminding me I can needlef**k people solo in facwar. Yet another awox solution thats frustrating as hell to endure.
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 816	Posted - 2014.08.26 20:51:00 - [44] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Night 5talker 514 wrote: I'm loving FW more than ever. If you're organised and someone tries to TK you, just have your squad turn and melt them, revive and repeat. If you don't like Awoxing then don't get involved in the EVE Universe, that's the sad truth. I've played EVE for about 5 years on and off and I can tell you I've awoxed, been awoxed, stolen, scammed and been scammed (but not for much lol). It's part of the game. If you plan on playing Legion, then I would suggest getting used to it as it'll probably only get more prevalent. Oh thank you for reminding me I can needlef**k people solo in facwar. Yet another awox solution thats frustrating as hell to endure. Is it true that only kbm guys can actually get outta the loop or is that a fairy tale like lag switching. I myself usually get out because punish button spam but whateves. Assault since Replication. We've come full circle. Finally.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1382	Posted - 2014.08.26 20:53:00 - [45] - Quote FW is no fun because there's typically no competition. We almost have to qsync against our own squads to find a fight. It's depressing, and the only thing saving FW are the few uniquely powerful pieces of equipment (like the Amarr uplinks or the Caldari needle) or the ones that require less CPU/PG to fit (like the Federation Duoville AR).
Vulpes Dolosus Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1920	Posted - 2014.08.26 20:54:00 - [46] - Quote I need to make a TKing alt. These tears are ripe for harvest!!! Keep 'em comming!!!
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 13057	Posted - 2014.08.26 21:18:00 - [47] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: Nothing Certain wrote: Team killing, AFK'ers, q-synced teams, long wait, minimal reward if you lose, no ISK. Hmmmm, no clue as to why people don't like FW. get rid of Q-sync and fights might be alot less 1 sided meaning people might actually sign up on the not soo popular sides and fw will run more often Yeah and turn FW into a glorified Pub match. Get real mate FW is a place for co-ordination and competitive play. If you are not willing to work with you corporation, you militia, your faction you are worse than a liability in the field. The nature of FW has be bastardised too many times for a community who doesn't even care about it. You sir have the mentality that will destroy a meaningful FW and will turn a meaningful FW experience into a casualised series of pseudo pub match farming cycles. "We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics 3910	Posted - 2014.08.26 21:37:00 - [48] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: Nothing Certain wrote: Team killing, AFK'ers, q-synced teams, long wait, minimal reward if you lose, no ISK. Hmmmm, no clue as to why people don't like FW. get rid of Q-sync and fights might be alot less 1 sided meaning people might actually sign up on the not soo popular sides and fw will run more often Yeah and turn FW into a glorified Pub match. Get real mate FW is a place for co-ordination and competitive play. If you are not willing to work with your corporation, your militia, your faction you are worse than a liability in the field. The nature of FW has been bastardised too many times for a community who doesn't even care about it, who doesn't want to take it seriously for what it is, who want another way to farm gear while feeling like they are contributing to something they quite frankly take no pride in and give no effort toward. You sir have the mentality that will destroy a meaningful FW and will turn a meaningful FW experience into a casualised series of pseudo pub match farming cycles. How would getting rid of Q-synching eliminate the TK/AWOX, which is the worst part of FW, exactly? It's by far the best defense against it. You know who the last person to straight out TK me was? My good friend *True fcking Adamance**.(It was an unfortunate bolas accident.) We q-synch like crazy in Amarr, and awoxers are a minor annoyance at best because of it. You can't take that away. (p.s. True, I totally see why you left, but it is unfortunate. The victories are there but are more hollow, the Imperial Guard has many fists but only one soul.) (The godfather of tactical logistics)
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 13057	Posted - 2014.08.26 21:50:00 - [49] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: True Adamance wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: Nothing Certain wrote: Team killing, AFK'ers, q-synced teams, long wait, minimal reward if you lose, no ISK. Hmmmm, no clue as to why people don't like FW. get rid of Q-sync and fights might be alot less 1 sided meaning people might actually sign up on the not soo popular sides and fw will run more often Yeah and turn FW into a glorified Pub match. Get real mate FW is a place for co-ordination and competitive play. If you are not willing to work with your corporation, your militia, your faction you are worse than a liability in the field. The nature of FW has been bastardised too many times for a community who doesn't even care about it, who doesn't want to take it seriously for what it is, who want another way to farm gear while feeling like they are contributing to something they quite frankly take no pride in and give no effort toward. You sir have the mentality that will destroy a meaningful FW and will turn a meaningful FW experience into a casualised series of pseudo pub match farming cycles. How would getting rid of Q-synching eliminate the TK/AWOX, which is the worst part of FW, exactly? It's by far the best defense against it. You know who the last person to straight out TK me was? My good friend *True fcking Adamance*.(It was an unfortunate bolas accident.) We q-synch like crazy in Amarr, and awoxers are a minor annoyance at best because of it. You can't take that away. (p.s. True, I totally see why you left, but it is unfortunate. The victories are there but are more hollow, the Imperial Guard has many fists but only one soul.) Was that when I told Aero not to fly with 7 of our 16 Q-Synced players because I had an HAV coming in and didn't know which direction......? Or is this one of the many times I either drove through LAVs/ my dispersion clipped you? "We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires"* -Kador Ouryon
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics 3913	Posted - 2014.08.27 03:14:00 - [50] - Quote The first one, technically Aero's fault but you got "credit" for the TK. (The godfather of tactical logistics)

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 13058	Posted - 2014.08.27 03:18:00 - [51] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: The first one, technically Aero's fault but you got "credit" for the TK. 7 free kills and not kicked! To be fair I told him not to take off and he ignored/ couldn't hear me....... "We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
Bahirae Serugiusu Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 0	Posted - 2014.08.27 03:35:00 - [52] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: I say month long ban on anyone who tks twice in one game.i mean the entire account and not just the character. You clearly haven't had team mates literally running front of you on purpose have you? You can't increase the penalty for team killing without screwing over those of us left who are actually trying to be productive on Caldari FW and not just whacking it on a roof somewhere that no one wants to get off of.
2Berries Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 266	Posted - 2014.08.27 04:26:00 - [53] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: HYENAKILLER X wrote: I say month long ban on anyone who tks twice in one game.i mean the entire account and not just the character. It's clear that you are new to New Eden. The proper way to handle someone who team kills you, is to find them and team kill them back. :) Thanls to starter medic suits, it's FREE too! Burning through clones like Rusty Venture.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics 3916	Posted - 2014.08.27 11:50:00 - [54] - Quote True Adamance wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: The first one, technically Aero's fault but you got "credit" for the TK. 7 free kills and not kicked! To be fair I told him not to take off and he ignored/ couldn't hear me....... Indeed, it was very efficient of you! (I totally heard the warning and was mentally bracing for impact when it happened. For the record, I got the impression he thought he could ninja out of the way in time.) P.s. I'm rather disappointed I haven't gotten an appropriately philosophical/RP response to my poignant old-soldier comment about the imperial guards soul. What sort of warrior poet are you? (The godfather of tactical logistics)
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3202	Posted - 2014.08.27 14:11:00 - [55] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: the only "pay out" i dislike is how low the LP payout is for loseing i do however like that we get soooo much salvage from FW including officer and complex moduals and advanced+ dropsuits The general idea I'm going by here is higher risk/higher reward. You should get a much better payout in FacWar than pubs... if you're winning. Ideally, that should encourage better players to play in FacWar since they can more likely push out a win. Players without as much skill can stick to pubs, for the payout that is more than good enough even in a loss. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Heimdallr69 Nyain San 3332	Posted - 2014.08.27 14:14:00 - [56] - Quote HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: My personal experience has been if your not winning (and even when you are ) there's usually some idiot kids running around in the redline killing each other or just following you team killing and destroying equipment. Just dumb, no wonder nobody plays it. I like it but I die more to blueberries than cherries. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 4413	Posted - 2014.08.27 14:18:00 - [57] - Quote The QQ about this is just another example of solo players wanting Dust to be COD. Level 4 Forum Warrior Very, very bitter vet PSN: wbrom42
Scheneighnay McBob Cult of Gasai 5811	Posted - 2014.08.27 14:38:00 - [58] - Quote Soldner VonKuechle wrote: Not very familiar with awoxing are ya? You'll get used to it. Thing is, in eve, awoxers are very easy to deal with, because their name can just be thrown out for everyone to murder the **** out of wherever they go. pé¦pâ+pé¦pâ½pâäpâ¬pâ¦pé¦pâ¼pâ+pâêpü»sñ¬S+ïpéè
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD 267	Posted - 2014.08.27 15:49:00 - [59] - Quote The only problem I see with FW is the lack of some isk payout as well as lp. Take out the LP, make the payout isk, and keep standings. The standings can make the price of items cheaper. Simple. As far as decent competition goes the lack of good fights comes from narrow-minded players who don't wanna work together?! When we do factional we all agree to fight in one faction in squad or q sinced! We aren't selfish, and have developed a schedule. With this method I can gain 40-60k LP in 2 days! All of my standing in each faction are 4-5. I get a ton of weaponry and suits. I can find something useful in each faction whether it be mods, weapons, or dropsuits. I've even bought tanks! You guys are selfish and stupid! That's why I don't mind syncing against you, and burying you in FW. You can't agree on a faction to fight for because you're all greedy. You don't realize that you lose more by yourself than you do in squad, you get little standing and LP, and you get stomped which causes you to rage and go awox snipers in your redline?! Your all a bunch of simple little selfish kids with no foresight. If you do better in squad in the pubs, why do you think it's different in FW? Novices?! "Anybody order chaos?"
Atiim 11654	Posted - 2014.08.27 16:34:00 - [60] - Quote vincent FF7 514 wrote: TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: I will say anything to defend console gamers. Console gamers get butthurt so easily lol I believe you're confusing "refuting your assertion" with "being butthurt". Unless of course, you already know the difference and your sole purpose is to goad and anger other players, in which case I'd have to say you've failed miserably. As for you're current assertion, do you have any evidence (non-fallacious, of course) to back said claim? DUST 514's 1st Matari Commando -HAND

Atiim 11654	Posted - 2014.08.27 16:37:00 - [61] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: The QQ about this is just another example of solo players wanting Dust to be COD. And do you know that the OP is a primarily solo player? Furthermore, you say "another example" as if there are numerous instances of "solo players" asking for DUST 514 to be CoD, yet I am not able to find any. Would you mind providing some examples? DUST 514's 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Cat Merc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 11851	Posted - 2014.08.27 16:42:00 - [62] - Quote TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Riruodo wrote: I like it, but it takes soooo long before FW starts. Are there few people playing or what? Also, I'm Rp-ing Caldari, so I only play Caldari FW... and I have yet to win a game. (T-T ) I run caldari suits too. The Caldari FW is notoriously ****. Most the awoxing bullshit comes from gallente being faggots sending players to Caldari to troll all while stomping as hard as they can. It's been that way since the LP FW started in 1.7. Except it was the Caldari who started it all the way back when FW was released and Gallente were stomping hard. There was a massive amount of forum posts from Caldari calling for people to AWOX Federal Marines. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
J4yne C0bb Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 725	Posted - 2014.08.27 17:21:00 - [63] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: the only "pay out" i dislike is how low the LP payout is for loseing i do however like that we get soooo much salvage from FW including officer and complex moduals and advanced+ dropsuits The general idea I'm going by here is higher risk/higher reward. You should get a much better payout in FacWar than pubs... if you're winning. Ideally, that should encourage better players to play in FacWar since they can more likely push out a win. Players without as much skill can stick to pubs, for the payout that is more than good enough even in a loss. I like this idea, since this would help the NPE, by making FW more attractive. Some of the reason I don't play much is because of the lack of a full layout of modules for each faction. If I have to fight both Amarr and Min to put together most of an LP heavy suit, who are enemies according to lore, then what's the point? Kinda kills the role-playing aspect of the game, for me. Would really like to see team-deploy in FW too, but we've been asking for that forever... would do so much to improve the quality of matches for those not good enough to play PC. Min Logi \| aka Punch R0ckgroin, fatman
Nirwanda Vaughns 426th Infantry 698	Posted - 2014.08.27 17:22:00 - [64] - Quote FW would be more popular if we had the sell option available to sell off salvage we receive that we can't/don't use to recoup some isk but until that comes in then FW will just be a huge isk sink and nothing else Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 405	Posted - 2014.08.27 17:38:00 - [65] - Quote Atiim wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: The QQ about this is just another example of solo players wanting Dust to be COD. And do you know that the OP is a primarily solo player? Furthermore, you say "another example" as if there are numerous instances of "solo players" asking for DUST 514 to be CoD, yet I am not able to find any. Would you mind providing some examples? Actually I am primarily a solo player... But it's because I played with some "elites" last fall and couldn't stand the neck beard circle jerk, AWOX, exploit crap. Same reason I wouldn't be caught dead playing COD (was even worse there,even tho I have real friends that play it ) I hardly ever squad up at all because I can't stand the whining, WTF, that was b.s. , how did he kill me? ( why I made this name ) I always do well so it dosn't really matter, I was just adding more pointless chatter I guess. Lonewolf till I die
843-Vika BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 260	Posted - 2014.08.27 17:44:00 - [66] - Quote Vapor Forseti wrote: You are spot-on. A few weeks ago, I placed several uplinks around Alpha, then these two douchebags from Nobliesse.Oblige (from my team) destroyed all my equipment. I stood there for a few seconds trying to imagine why they would do that. Lo and behold, one kills me and the other revives me 10+ times. Match ended abruptly after that. I hit the roof. Never again will I play factional. be smart and punish that guy, you can do it to the same person every time they kill you and then they banned for 24 hours from FW, I think after 1 game they get banned for 24 hours they will get bored and stop especially if they do it every day, they will basically get to play fw for about 2 minutes a day will get very lame. I remember in mag tk was always on but you got booted after 5 tks and then it got boring so people stopped doing it
NAV HIV The Generals Anime Empire. 2023	Posted - 2014.08.27 18:00:00 - [67] - Quote HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: My personal experience has been if your not winning (and even when you are ) there's usually some idiot kids running around in the redline killing each other or just following you team killing and destroying equipment. Just dumb, no wonder nobody plays it. No Teamwork and Horrible blue dots...
Cruor Abominare Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 138	Posted - 2014.08.27 19:25:00 - [68] - Quote I've been playing quite a bit of faction warfare lately (why do people keep calling it factional anyways?). Its kinda meh. I'd be more interested if at least the full line up of suits were available, theres little point in caldari lp store without it. Cal assault and Logi are pretty lackluster to begin with these days. It would help if I could sell salvage to npcs as well, but alas no client updates for dust ever again so no point pining. Playing FW is mostly a question of what time it is. Wee hours of the US time zones? Minmatar gotta get them cheap combat rifles. Rest of the day Amarr. Not sure? Gallente for the easy wins. I've never unintentionally killed a blue but seem to always be taking fire from my blues. If you aren't stackign a team and stomping proto is pretty underwhelming because of how wonky the battles are, virtually every game I've played in FW has a clone differential of at least 70+. So either try to carry with a proto suit or just run about in proto in a game already won. I run something cheap and use it to get cheap proto gear to mess around in, I'm by no means a dedicated logi player but gallente fw is basically 5 really cheap proto suits a game if I want to mess around with it. Without a player market FW is largely doomed, its the only thing thats ever kept eve fw alive.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 13074	Posted - 2014.08.27 20:42:00 - [69] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: True Adamance wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: The first one, technically Aero's fault but you got "credit" for the TK. 7 free kills and not kicked! To be fair I told him not to take off and he ignored/ couldn't hear me....... Indeed, it was very efficient of you! (I totally heard the warning and was mentally bracing for impact when it happened. For the record, I got the impression he thought he could ninja out of the way in time.) P.s. I'm rather disappointed I haven't gotten an appropriately philosophical/RP response to my wistfully poignant old-soldiers-never-die comment about the imperial guards soul. What sort of warrior poet are you? My apology.... planet-side I've been cooped up in the Praetorian offices all week. I will get to it. "We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 1354	Posted - 2014.08.28 22:39:00 - [70] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: HYENAKILLER X wrote: I say month long ban on anyone who tks twice in one game.i mean the entire account and not just the character. It's clear that you are new to New Eden. The proper way to handle someone who team kills you, is to find them and team kill them back. :) Which is why I never recommend any CCP game to reasonable gamers. Unreasonable gamers, hey why wouldn't you pay a rental fee to gank other players? Fun to be had by those with no ethics. Welcome to New Eden. And so it goes.

Vapor Forseti Ancient Textiles. 1319	Posted - 2014.08.29 16:16:00 - [71] - Quote 843-Vika wrote: Vapor Forseti wrote: You are spot-on. A few weeks ago, I placed several uplinks around Alpha, then these two douchebags from Nobliesse.Oblige (from my team) destroyed all my equipment. I stood there for a few seconds trying to imagine why they would do that. Lo and behold, one kills me and the other revives me 10+ times. Match ended abruptly after that. I hit the roof. Never again will I play factional. be smart and punish that guy, you can do it to the same person every time they kill you and then they banned for 24 hours from FW, I think after 1 game they get banned for 24 hours they will get bored and stop especially if they do it every day, they will basically get to play fw for about 2 minutes a day will get very lame. I remember in mag tk was always on but you got booted after 5 tks and then it got boring so people stopped doing it Never had a chance to. Kept getting picked up right as soon as I died. Of course I would have ******* punished him if I had the chance. I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes.
Jammer Jalapeno Dox You. Proficiency V. 159	Posted - 2014.08.29 19:43:00 - [72] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: the only "pay out" i dislike is how low the LP payout is for loseing i do however like that we get soooo much salvage from FW including officer and complex moduals and advanced+ dropsuits The general idea I'm going by here is higher risk/higher reward. You should get a much better payout in FacWar than pubs... if you're winning. Ideally, that should encourage better players to play in FacWar since they can more likely push out a win. Players without as much skill can stick to pubs, for the payout that is more than good enough even in a loss. I agree there should be better rewards for playing FW..... Perhaps you can be awarded for completing your level with 50 free suits or weapons...from that specific faction. Every level could give out a different type of suit / weapon / equipment. The payout increase does feel better however I think you should still be awarded the 75 points to your next level even if it is a loss...come on, you fight hard & pay out of your own pocket. Sometimes you just don't have a strong enough team. Also it would be nice if there was a minimum level of SP required to play FW. Maybe that could help control the AWoXing, and draw in more serious players. MmMmMm TanKs....delicious TanKs


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