DUST Search - Why factional is so unpopular.

vincent FF7 514 wrote:

Ryme Intrinseca wrote:

vincent FF7 514 wrote:

The problem? Console gamers are ******** when it comes to team based play.

Yes cos Awox himself was totally a console player and definitely not an Eve pilot Roll

The butthurt reply. Should I answer or will it just further confuse you?

What Awox did is natural play of EVE Online. New Eden is built on treachery and deceit. In that environment one should expect such

In the console gaming world that level of play is not there yet because you and I both know, little console brat gamers would make up petitions and protest if they were faced with being 3rd place because of a AWOXER

What's also funny is if you took console players and put them on EVE, they wouldn't be nearly half as coordinated as EVE pilots or PC players as a whole. Of course there's the exceptional few, that's a given. We've seen those in MAG and SOCOM, but look how those games were played by a small group and not a larger console gamer population.

The majority of console players are used to being number one without understanding that you gotta have chiefs and indians. A pub match in Dust, COD and BF is evident of the attitude of console players. On PC, it's a different story.

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HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 372	Posted - 2014.08.25 20:22:00 - [1] - Quote My personal experience has been if your not winning (and even when you are ) there's usually some idiot kids running around in the redline killing each other or just following you team killing and destroying equipment. Just dumb, no wonder nobody plays it. Lonewolf till I die
Vapor Forseti Ancient Textiles. 1301	Posted - 2014.08.25 20:30:00 - [2] - Quote You are spot-on. A few weeks ago, I placed several uplinks around Alpha, then these two douchebags from Nobliesse.Oblige (from my team) destroyed all my equipment. I stood there for a few seconds trying to imagine why they would do that. Lo and behold, one kills me and the other revives me 10+ times. Match ended abruptly after that. I hit the roof. Never again will I play factional. I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes.
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 814	Posted - 2014.08.25 20:34:00 - [3] - Quote Not very familiar with awoxing are ya? You'll get used to it. Assault since Replication. We've come full circle. Finally.
2Berries Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 241	Posted - 2014.08.25 20:38:00 - [4] - Quote My only problem with awoxing is there only seems to be one place they go to do it, caldari. Expand your horizons, people! Burning through clones like Rusty Venture.
HYENAKILLER X WILL FIGHT ANYONE 772	Posted - 2014.08.25 20:57:00 - [5] - Quote I cannot fkng wait for that team kill sht to get fixed. I say month long ban on anyone who tks twice in one game.i mean the entire account and not just the character. Also why would I waite 5 minutes to play fw when it takes 30 seconds for every other game mode. If they made th fw sceduled it would mean more. You cant find a weapon in DESTINY that looks cooler than the viziam or a suit that look better than the basic gal proto.
Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 1059	Posted - 2014.08.25 21:07:00 - [6] - Quote Team killing, AFK'ers, q-synced teams, long wait, minimal reward if you lose, no ISK. Hmmmm, no clue as to why peoole don't like FW. Because, that's why.
Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 1059	Posted - 2014.08.25 21:08:00 - [7] - Quote Increasing payout though means that at least I play it sometimes now. Because, that's why.
Groz'zar Kazoku Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 59	Posted - 2014.08.25 21:17:00 - [8] - Quote First offence in a week. 1 day. did it gain less then a week after your back: 1 week block Did it again after that week wears off: month long ban meaning 30days. I think the scaling punishment would be better then just doing it for a day. because lets be honest for a day the trolls will think its worth it.
Riruodo Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 27	Posted - 2014.08.25 21:17:00 - [9] - Quote I like it, but it takes soooo long before FW starts. Are there few people playing or what? Also, I'm Rp-ing Caldari, so I only play Caldari FW... and I have yet to win a game. (T-T ) My other car is Utena
buzzzzzzz killllllllll Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 666	Posted - 2014.08.25 21:27:00 - [10] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: I cannot fkng wait for that team kill sht to get fixed. I say month long ban on anyone who tks twice in one game.i mean the entire account and not just the character. Also why would I waite 5 minutes to play fw when it takes 30 seconds for every other game mode. If they made th fw sceduled it would mean more. play a pub, stop bitching /fixed

Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 3175	Posted - 2014.08.25 21:30:00 - [11] - Quote Not with ECHELON! Queue the royal trumpets Most of the horrible team players are in Caldari, anyways.
ImIvan 20	Posted - 2014.08.25 21:31:00 - [12] - Quote It's the fact that if you lose you don't get **** too... Why must you use prototypes?
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 508	Posted - 2014.08.25 21:48:00 - [13] - Quote Riruodo wrote: I like it, but it takes soooo long before FW starts. Are there few people playing or what? Also, I'm Rp-ing Caldari, so I only play Caldari FW... and I have yet to win a game. (T-T ) I run caldari suits too. The Caldari FW is notoriously ****. Most the awoxing bullshit comes from gallente being faggots sending players to Caldari to troll all while stomping as hard as they can. It's been that way since the LP FW started in 1.7.
TEBOW BAGGINS GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING 1172	Posted - 2014.08.25 21:53:00 - [14] - Quote trying to random squad in FW sounds pretty fail. i only go in it when ppl i like squading with are on. AKA Zirzo Valcyn AFKing since 2012
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 13030	Posted - 2014.08.25 22:00:00 - [15] - Quote It's not popular because there is nothing special to it. Factional Gear is visually no different than "Neo" gear. Its functionally no different and thus less valuable for the efforts you put in and the risks you take. You cannot influence EVE's FW Dust side. You cannot choose where to fight and when to fight or to run, you cannot plex under the radar or be bit by pirates. FW provides no benefits for corporations involved in its "Pendulum War". Dust players will never be acknowledged by CCP for their actions in it. Dust does not ask for loyalty to one specific faction at a time, does not handle standings, and actions have little to no significance as such Militia's cannot regulate themselves. Factional Warfare was insanely popular once when people cared who they fought for and took pride in it. "We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 1081	Posted - 2014.08.25 22:04:00 - [16] - Quote Wait time. Generally only get a small window the play so every five minutes means something. Your game f'ing sucks, but I'll still play it, damn you! Turns out I wont.
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 6687	Posted - 2014.08.25 22:04:00 - [17] - Quote Groz'zar Kazoku wrote: First offence in a week. 1 day. did it gain less then a week after your back: 1 week block Did it again after that week wears off: month long ban meaning 30days. I think the scaling punishment would be better then just doing it for a day. because lets be honest for a day the trolls will think its worth it. I would never drop an Orbital EVER. RIP EVE side. FA's Stabber Extraordinaire Minmatar Enthusiast Explosions and Bulletstorm? Count me in!
vincent FF7 514 sephiroth clones 21	Posted - 2014.08.25 22:37:00 - [18] - Quote The problem? Console gamers are ******** when it comes to team based play. That and guys just want their items from LP store. And they dont care how they get it, since now you get a nice payout for losing
Zindorak 1.U.P 674	Posted - 2014.08.25 22:39:00 - [19] - Quote HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: My personal experience has been if your not winning (and even when you are ) there's usually some idiot kids running around in the redline killing each other or just following you team killing and destroying equipment. Just dumb, no wonder nobody plays it. Well what else are you supposed to do? Pokemon master! CCP undo ScP nerf. It hurt my feering very bad
Ryme Intrinseca 1626	Posted - 2014.08.25 23:03:00 - [20] - Quote vincent FF7 514 wrote: The problem? Console gamers are ******** when it comes to team based play. Yes cos Awox himself was totally a console player and definitely not an Eve pilot

KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 1352	Posted - 2014.08.25 23:21:00 - [21] - Quote Vapor Forseti wrote: You are spot-on. A few weeks ago, I placed several uplinks around Alpha, then these two douchebags from Nobliesse.Oblige (from my team) destroyed all my equipment. I stood there for a few seconds trying to imagine why they would do that. Lo and behold, one kills me and the other revives me 10+ times. Match ended abruptly after that. I hit the roof. Never again will I play factional. Welcome to CCP. That is exactly the behavior that they reward in EVE Online. When it happens at a large enough scale CCP gets PR from headlines 'EVE Online traitor cost $2500). Thus FW sucks. Even with triple LP. And so it goes.
vincent FF7 514 sephiroth clones 22	Posted - 2014.08.25 23:27:00 - [22] - Quote Ryme Intrinseca wrote: vincent FF7 514 wrote: The problem? Console gamers are ******** when it comes to team based play. Yes cos Awox himself was totally a console player and definitely not an Eve pilot The butthurt reply. Should I answer or will it just further confuse you? What Awox did is natural play of EVE Online. New Eden is built on treachery and deceit. In that environment one should expect such In the console gaming world that level of play is not there yet because you and I both know, little console brat gamers would make up petitions and protest if they were faced with being 3rd place because of a AWOXER What's also funny is if you took console players and put them on EVE, they wouldn't be nearly half as coordinated as EVE pilots or PC players as a whole. Of course there's the exceptional few, that's a given. We've seen those in MAG and SOCOM, but look how those games were played by a small group and not a larger console gamer population. The majority of console players are used to being number one without understanding that you gotta have chiefs and indians. A pub match in Dust, COD and BF is evident of the attitude of console players. On PC, it's a different story.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 13030	Posted - 2014.08.25 23:28:00 - [23] - Quote KalOfTheRathi wrote: Vapor Forseti wrote: You are spot-on. A few weeks ago, I placed several uplinks around Alpha, then these two douchebags from Nobliesse.Oblige (from my team) destroyed all my equipment. I stood there for a few seconds trying to imagine why they would do that. Lo and behold, one kills me and the other revives me 10+ times. Match ended abruptly after that. I hit the roof. Never again will I play factional. Welcome to CCP. That is exactly the behavior that they reward in EVE Online. When it happens at a large enough scale CCP gets PR from headlines 'EVE Online traitor cost $2500). Thus FW sucks. Even with triple LP. That behaviour is not rewarded in EVE FW Militia's though. If someone AWOXes you like that and remains in the Militia you wardec them and make their lives a living hell just like PIE Inc is doing now against a Blood Raider Rper. However in Dust 514 militia regulation is punished by a kick and a loss of standing and currently has no means of players being able to set standings or freely declare groups their enemies. "We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
Michael Arck 5257	Posted - 2014.08.25 23:30:00 - [24] - Quote I keep hearing how FW in EVE is different. Something along the lines that you have to "sign up" for it or something like that? I heard its a bit stricter and not as loose as it is in Dust. Archistrategos *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain*
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 383	Posted - 2014.08.25 23:43:00 - [25] - Quote So console gaming is for babies/idiots... what does that make an eve pilot that plays it? Sounds like a horrible PC player trying to feel better about himself by dominating said babies/idiots, after being beaten by skilled PC gamers.?? P.s. The next post is by a tranny. Lonewolf till I die
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 13030	Posted - 2014.08.25 23:49:00 - [26] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: I keep hearing how FW in EVE is different. Something along the lines that you have to "sign up" for it or something like that? I heard its a bit stricter and not as loose as it is in Dust. You have to make the choice to align yourself with a specific Militia. In doing do you gain access to FW for that specific faction and its allies. You gain specific tags that indicate WT (war targets) in system and allied Militia pilots, The whole system is more flexible, stricter in some ways, lenient in others. Its a community of players with the same goal which can be self regulated by the Militia corporations themselves. Its a system that encourages long term spying, long term loyalty, and co-operation. It encourages players not solely use their LP for their own betterment but for the betterment of the Militia, buffering Ihubs to improve system bonuses and quality of life knowing that by investing in the Militia and your controlled systems you will earn that LP back twice or three times over. Its a system that supports a 23/7 war and all of the pilots involved in it. "We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 511	Posted - 2014.08.26 00:07:00 - [27] - Quote vincent FF7 514 wrote: Ryme Intrinseca wrote: vincent FF7 514 wrote: The problem? Console gamers are ******** when it comes to team based play. Yes cos Awox himself was totally a console player and definitely not an Eve pilot The butthurt reply. Should I answer or will it just further confuse you? What Awox did is natural play of EVE Online. New Eden is built on treachery and deceit. In that environment one should expect such In the console gaming world that level of play is not there yet because you and I both know, little console brat gamers would make up petitions and protest if they were faced with being 3rd place because of a AWOXER What's also funny is if you took console players and put them on EVE, they wouldn't be nearly half as coordinated as EVE pilots or PC players as a whole. Of course there's the exceptional few, that's a given. We've seen those in MAG and SOCOM, but look how those games were played by a small group and not a larger console gamer population. The majority of console players are used to being number one without understanding that you gotta have chiefs and indians. A pub match in Dust, COD and BF is evident of the attitude of console players. On PC, it's a different story. As someone who played, quake, unreal, halo, counter strike, battlefield 1942, etc. etc. I call bullshit to you claiming PC is different. They aren't, teamwork is always OP no matter what platform you use/game you play, most people PERIOD act like lemmings in team based games.
vincent FF7 514 sephiroth clones 22	Posted - 2014.08.26 00:15:00 - [28] - Quote TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: I will say anything to defend console gamers. Console gamers get butthurt so easily lol
Ryme Intrinseca 1627	Posted - 2014.08.26 00:41:00 - [29] - Quote vincent FF7 514 wrote: Ryme Intrinseca wrote: vincent FF7 514 wrote: The problem? Console gamers are ******** when it comes to team based play. Yes cos Awox himself was totally a console player and definitely not an Eve pilot The butthurt reply. Should I answer or will it just further confuse you? What Awox did is natural play of EVE Online. New Eden is built on treachery and deceit. In that environment one should expect such In the console gaming world that level of play is not there yet because you and I both know, little console brat gamers would make up petitions and protest if they were faced with being 3rd place because of a AWOXER What's also funny is if you took console players and put them on EVE, they wouldn't be nearly half as coordinated as EVE pilots or PC players as a whole. Of course there's the exceptional few, that's a given. We've seen those in MAG and SOCOM, but look how those games were played by a small group and not a larger console gamer population. The majority of console players are used to being number one without understanding that you gotta have chiefs and indians. A pub match in Dust, COD and BF is evident of the attitude of console players. On PC, it's a different story. You are disturbingly detached from reality. Fact is there is more teamwork in Dust than there is in 90% of PC-origin FPSes. Doom, Quake, Unreal Tournament, Counter Strike, Battlefield, Call of Duty, Crysis, etc. are not exactly packed with logi trains are they. Git gud or go back to the PC kiddy pool, scrub.
Michael Arck 5258	Posted - 2014.08.26 00:50:00 - [30] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Michael Arck wrote: I keep hearing how FW in EVE is different. Something along the lines that you have to "sign up" for it or something like that? I heard its a bit stricter and not as loose as it is in Dust. You have to make the choice to align yourself with a specific Militia. In doing do you gain access to FW for that specific faction and its allies. You gain specific tags that indicate WT (war targets) in system and allied Militia pilots, The whole system is more flexible, stricter in some ways, lenient in others. Its a community of players with the same goal which can be self regulated by the Militia corporations themselves. Its a system that encourages long term spying, long term loyalty, and co-operation. It encourages players not solely use their LP for their own betterment but for the betterment of the Militia, buffering Ihubs to improve system bonuses and quality of life knowing that by investing in the Militia and your controlled systems you will earn that LP back twice or three times over. Its a system that supports a 23/7 war and all of the pilots involved in it. Now that sounds like a FW I would want to play. A bit more serious and organized better. I guess it goes without saying but I really hate FW on Dust 514. Such a letdown as a whole. And I was so excited about it too after the enhancements but in the end, it means nothing. o7 to you PIE guys though. I was really impressed with how you guys operated yourselves.. You guys were my inspiration on how a factional corporation, dedication and RP should be about when playing FW. Archistrategos *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain*



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