DUST Search - The point of PC.....

Mauren NOON wrote:

Thor Odinson42 wrote:

I think it's so you can form tactics and play as a team together to try and defeat someone else doing the same. Really it's just that, a team deploy that you have to wait a stupid amount of time for.

It takes a lot of work before and after PCs to get it down. Finding FCs, squad leaders, and players to fill roles isn't easy.
Explaining to players that they can't just run off and lonewolf is tough. Many, many players get irate when you lose and they immediately see it as validation that they knew better.

The ringing situation and the entry barrier to PC really killed the game mode early after it's release. The lack of a team deploy UI and the lack of a low stakes team deploy really makes it even tougher. If it had involved more players and CCP would have pushed the team aspect of Dust it would be thriving instead of this. More players would see that things aren't nearly as unbalanced as they think when you can control more of the factors in the equation.

It truly is a shame that more players aren't involved. It is awesome when your team is really clicking and/or you take down someone you may have worried about or defended that district with a severe lack of clones.

It's just like the solo player never experiencing solid squad play. PC is something that people should strive for. It is just really, really difficult to get down. I don't think we were proficient in getting out of our spawn until 3 or 4 months ago. We'd always have some little hiccup or the other team would just flat beat us into the city.

I'll say it again, it's a damn shame more people don't strive for it. It's ******* awesome

I understand that but most of the pc's I went into was filled with ringers. What's the point of having a district if you hire other people to fight your battles?

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Mauren NOON The Exemplars Top Men. 413	Posted - 2014.08.23 00:41:00 - [1] - Quote What is it? I don't see one Scr and commando enthusiast. A commando is not just a suit, but a way of life... "The only thing to fear is fear itself"
Robocop Junior Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 767	Posted - 2014.08.23 00:45:00 - [2] - Quote To give people who have wasted 2 years of their life a sense of accomplishment? If strength were all, tiger would not fear scorpion.
Mauren NOON The Exemplars Top Men. 413	Posted - 2014.08.23 00:46:00 - [3] - Quote Robocop Junior wrote: To give people who have wasted 2 years of their life a sense of accomplishment? Too true Scr and commando enthusiast. A commando is not just a suit, but a way of life... "The only thing to fear is fear itself"
Symbioticforks Pure Evil. 695	Posted - 2014.08.23 00:48:00 - [4] - Quote it's apparently so I can lose Thale's. Sniping Dust 514 (video series)
Patrlck 56 453	Posted - 2014.08.23 00:49:00 - [5] - Quote I just like the fights. Vengeance Unbound are really fun to fight, it's never a stomp for either side. besides that I don't really care
Mauren NOON The Exemplars Top Men. 413	Posted - 2014.08.23 00:50:00 - [6] - Quote Symbioticforks wrote: it's apparently so I can lose Thale's. I just had a PC against your corp....they brought 14 ringers...it's like they think losing a district is like losing a lover...... Scr and commando enthusiast. A commando is not just a suit, but a way of life... "The only thing to fear is fear itself"
Bobs urges Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 34	Posted - 2014.08.23 00:56:00 - [7] - Quote Manly there isn't one, some might use it to avoid the shitshow called public matches. But mostly there isnt one.
Hakyou Brutor Pure Evil. 1104	Posted - 2014.08.23 01:14:00 - [8] - Quote Mauren NOON wrote: Symbioticforks wrote: it's apparently so I can lose Thale's. I just had a PC against your corp....they brought 14 ringers...it's like they think losing a district is like losing a lover...... We would have loved to stomped you ourselves, unfortunately we had stacked timers.
Mauren NOON The Exemplars Top Men. 413	Posted - 2014.08.23 01:18:00 - [9] - Quote Mighty large talk for someone in neither pc's glad to see you spared no expense on the ringers.... Scr and commando enthusiast. A commando is not just a suit, but a way of life... "The only thing to fear is fear itself"
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 4357	Posted - 2014.08.23 01:18:00 - [10] - Quote I think it's so you can form tactics and play as a team together to try and defeat someone else doing the same. Really it's just that, a team deploy that you have to wait a stupid amount of time for. It takes a lot of work before and after PCs to get it down. Finding FCs, squad leaders, and players to fill roles isn't easy. Explaining to players that they can't just run off and lonewolf is tough. Many, many players get irate when you lose and they immediately see it as validation that they knew better. The ringing situation and the entry barrier to PC really killed the game mode early after it's release. The lack of a team deploy UI and the lack of a low stakes team deploy really makes it even tougher. If it had involved more players and CCP would have pushed the team aspect of Dust it would be thriving instead of this. More players would see that things aren't nearly as unbalanced as they think when you can control more of the factors in the equation. It truly is a shame that more players aren't involved. It is awesome when your team is really clicking and/or you take down someone you may have worried about or defended that district with a severe lack of clones. It's just like the solo player never experiencing solid team play. PC is something that people should strive for. It is just really, really difficult to get down. I don't think we were proficient in getting out of our spawn until 3 or 4 months ago. We'd always have some little hiccup or the other team would just flat beat us into the city. I'll say it again, it's a damn shame more people don't strive for it. It's ***** awesome Level 4 Forum Warrior** Very, very bitter vet PSN: wbrom42

Mauren NOON The Exemplars Top Men. 413	Posted - 2014.08.23 01:22:00 - [11] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: I think it's so you can form tactics and play as a team together to try and defeat someone else doing the same. Really it's just that, a team deploy that you have to wait a stupid amount of time for. It takes a lot of work before and after PCs to get it down. Finding FCs, squad leaders, and players to fill roles isn't easy. Explaining to players that they can't just run off and lonewolf is tough. Many, many players get irate when you lose and they immediately see it as validation that they knew better. The ringing situation and the entry barrier to PC really killed the game mode early after it's release. The lack of a team deploy UI and the lack of a low stakes team deploy really makes it even tougher. If it had involved more players and CCP would have pushed the team aspect of Dust it would be thriving instead of this. More players would see that things aren't nearly as unbalanced as they think when you can control more of the factors in the equation. It truly is a shame that more players aren't involved. It is awesome when your team is really clicking and/or you take down someone you may have worried about or defended that district with a severe lack of clones. It's just like the solo player never experiencing solid squad play. PC is something that people should strive for. It is just really, really difficult to get down. I don't think we were proficient in getting out of our spawn until 3 or 4 months ago. We'd always have some little hiccup or the other team would just flat beat us into the city. I'll say it again, it's a damn shame more people don't strive for it. It's ******* awesome I understand that but most of the pc's I went into was filled with ringers. What's the point of having a district if you hire other people to fight your battles? Scr and commando enthusiast. A commando is not just a suit, but a way of life... "The only thing to fear is fear itself"
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 4360	Posted - 2014.08.23 01:31:00 - [12] - Quote Mauren NOON wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: I think it's so you can form tactics and play as a team together to try and defeat someone else doing the same. Really it's just that, a team deploy that you have to wait a stupid amount of time for. It takes a lot of work before and after PCs to get it down. Finding FCs, squad leaders, and players to fill roles isn't easy. Explaining to players that they can't just run off and lonewolf is tough. Many, many players get irate when you lose and they immediately see it as validation that they knew better. The ringing situation and the entry barrier to PC really killed the game mode early after it's release. The lack of a team deploy UI and the lack of a low stakes team deploy really makes it even tougher. If it had involved more players and CCP would have pushed the team aspect of Dust it would be thriving instead of this. More players would see that things aren't nearly as unbalanced as they think when you can control more of the factors in the equation. It truly is a shame that more players aren't involved. It is awesome when your team is really clicking and/or you take down someone you may have worried about or defended that district with a severe lack of clones. It's just like the solo player never experiencing solid squad play. PC is something that people should strive for. It is just really, really difficult to get down. I don't think we were proficient in getting out of our spawn until 3 or 4 months ago. We'd always have some little hiccup or the other team would just flat beat us into the city. I'll say it again, it's a damn shame more people don't strive for it. It's ***** awesome I understand that but most of the pc's I went into was filled with ringers. What's the point of having a district if you hire other people to fight your battles? Well I think it's for different reasons now. Stacked timers are a bother for sure. Some super try hard corps HAVE to win constantly or their members flock to the next bandwagon, but really it's a small community. I think people enjoy PC and especially folks that fill roles like ADS are always needed. Some teams don't have FCs, don't have disciplined members and simply HAVE to have ringers or it's a show to the third power. I know how it feels though. Up until 6 months or so ago it didn't matter who you attacked/attacked you it was the same pool of 40 or so black belt ninjas. It kills the motivation of the members on both sides. The only people enjoying it are the the ringers. Corps that rely on it are really holding themselves back. Especially now that people refrain from taking last districts (non cocksuckerz anyway). Level 4 Forum Warrior** Very, very bitter vet PSN: wbrom42
RYN0CER0S Rise Of Old Dudes 1273	Posted - 2014.08.23 01:44:00 - [13] - Quote Because pubs are Easy Mode and it's the only way to bypass that **** excuse for Matchmaking. If we had Corp Battles back, I doubt there would be any real interest in PC. I don't always blap Infantry with a Forge Gun, but when I do, that is hilarious.
Robocop Junior Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 769	Posted - 2014.08.23 01:45:00 - [14] - Quote I was gonna say it's what all star games are to professional sports, a glorified exhibition game, but it's more like the special olympics. Win or lose you're still ******** for even showing up. If strength were all, tiger would not fear scorpion.
Atiim 11572	Posted - 2014.08.23 01:57:00 - [15] - Quote The reason why I play PC is because of the high amounts of organization on both parts. When you take away the FoTM spam, it actually showcases what DUST 514 is supposed to be: A team based game with both sides fiercely fighting for a common goal. Sure you could argue that FW accomplishes this as well, but honestly this doesn't happen due to the fact that you have to deal with blueberries who wander around aimlessly without contributing to the team. I could q-sync to eliminate this issue, but then I'll be fighting against those blueberries which makes it too easy, thus ruining the fun. DUST 514's 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Atiim 11572	Posted - 2014.08.23 02:00:00 - [16] - Quote Mauren NOON wrote: Symbioticforks wrote: it's apparently so I can lose Thale's. I just had a PC against your corp....they brought 14 ringers...it's like they think losing a district is like losing a lover...... I was actually in that match, and I'd love to give you some tips on how to improve your game in the city. DUST 514's 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Darth-Carbonite GIO Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 719	Posted - 2014.08.23 02:07:00 - [17] - Quote To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women. Or so I've been told... Living proof that the Amarr can't do anything without the Caldari
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3908	Posted - 2014.08.23 02:13:00 - [18] - Quote PE brought ringers against you because they had stacked timers bud. They wanted to play the tougher opponent and allowed ringer to take the stacked timer. Some corps like ERA in the past only cared about winning so they paid OSG, TRE, R*, and generally anyone who they thought was better than their own players they benched to win the battle. PX1 wanted to win so they hired ringers or made alliances with those stronger than them. Most corps want to field their own battles unless they feel it's like a lvl 1 team facing a lvl 99 team in a sense. Why not just call in a lvl 99 team as well so long as you believe the ringers can deliver on their promise to win. PC has strayed a lot from what it was originally. A place for corps to duke it out and hold land and be responsible for timers for sweet profit. But the numbers of PC have continued to drop over time as the game failed to improve on it's weaknesses and was exploited for months by many not to mention the price tag of PC being a huge deterrent to new corps making a break into PC. New corps like Science for Death and others have tried to make a dent but end up never achieving their potential. B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA They call me ~Princess Zatata~ Skype: Zatara.Rought Twitter: @ZataraRought
Hakyou Brutor Pure Evil. 1105	Posted - 2014.08.23 02:17:00 - [19] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: PE brought ringers against you because they had stacked timers bud. no shh Z, let them think they're good enough so they will attack us again, free isk.
Mauren NOON The Exemplars Top Men. 413	Posted - 2014.08.23 02:27:00 - [20] - Quote Atiim wrote: Mauren NOON wrote: Symbioticforks wrote: it's apparently so I can lose Thale's. I just had a PC against your corp....they brought 14 ringers...it's like they think losing a district is like losing a lover...... I was actually in that match, and I'd love to give you some tips on how to improve your game in the city. I mean I couldn't help every time I spawned I was surrounded by 2 heavies and alldins asshat fit Scr and commando enthusiast. A commando is not just a suit, but a way of life... "The only thing to fear is fear itself"

Mauren NOON The Exemplars Top Men. 414	Posted - 2014.08.23 02:29:00 - [21] - Quote And it wasn't our best team but those ringers had 6 of the best players in the game Scr and commando enthusiast. A commando is not just a suit, but a way of life... "The only thing to fear is fear itself"
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3909	Posted - 2014.08.23 02:30:00 - [22] - Quote Someone got Alldin in a PC match!? WTF even TP couldn't get him to play. B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA They call me ~Princess Zatata~ Skype: Zatara.Rought Twitter: @ZataraRought
Mauren NOON The Exemplars Top Men. 414	Posted - 2014.08.23 02:31:00 - [23] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: PE brought ringers against you because they had stacked timers bud. no shh Z, let them think they're good enough so they will attack us again, free isk. Lol free Isk says the guy who wasnt in the PC. Nice try though pal... Scr and commando enthusiast. A commando is not just a suit, but a way of life... "The only thing to fear is fear itself"
Mauren NOON The Exemplars Top Men. 414	Posted - 2014.08.23 02:32:00 - [24] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Someone got Alldin in a PC match!? WTF even TP couldn't get him to play. Yep he used his balacs ck.0 with a krins and calas Scr and commando enthusiast. A commando is not just a suit, but a way of life... "The only thing to fear is fear itself"
Hakyou Brutor Pure Evil. 1106	Posted - 2014.08.23 02:35:00 - [25] - Quote Mauren NOON wrote: Hakyou Brutor wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: PE brought ringers against you because they had stacked timers bud. no shh Z, let them think they're good enough so they will attack us again, free isk. Lol free Isk says the guy who wasnt in the PC. Nice try though pal... Yeah, it's a shame, I was finishing up a paper for school, when I got on it was a few minutes till deploy and they were full.
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 1021	Posted - 2014.08.23 02:37:00 - [26] - Quote To give them a better reason to farm ISK from proto stomping Ambush. It's basically an ego power trip that's completely flawed because CCP can't make a game mode that's fair and balanced. You can balance the dropsuits and vehicles all you want. Still doesn't mean the game is balanced. *Eternal Beings* - #76 in All Time WP - #90 in All Time Kills. Member since day one, 10 months ago.
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3909	Posted - 2014.08.23 02:38:00 - [27] - Quote Mauren NOON wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: Someone got Alldin in a PC match!? WTF even TP couldn't get him to play. Yep he used his balacs ck.0 with a krins and calas I highly doubt he used krin's. They suck. and he'd of preferred his wolfmans I think if it wasn't hit with the RoF nerf bat. Hopefully we can fix this. but he was throwing away balacs ck.0? if he lost some you may have gotten it in salvage! Officer suit > winning a dumb PC match. B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA They call me ~Princess Zatata~ Skype: Zatara.Rought Twitter: @ZataraRought
Mauren NOON The Exemplars Top Men. 414	Posted - 2014.08.23 02:40:00 - [28] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: Mauren NOON wrote: Hakyou Brutor wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: PE brought ringers against you because they had stacked timers bud. no shh Z, let them think they're good enough so they will attack us again, free isk. Lol free Isk says the guy who wasnt in the PC. Nice try though pal... Yeah, it's a shame, I was finishing up a paper for school, when I got on it was a few minutes till deploy and they were full. Yeah.....it is a shame. Probably for the best. You probably would have went negative :) Scr and commando enthusiast. A commando is not just a suit, but a way of life... "The only thing to fear is fear itself"
Mauren NOON The Exemplars Top Men. 414	Posted - 2014.08.23 02:42:00 - [29] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Mauren NOON wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: Someone got Alldin in a PC match!? WTF even TP couldn't get him to play. Yep he used his balacs ck.0 with a krins and calas I highly doubt he used krin's. They suck. and he'd of preferred his wolfmans I think if it wasn't hit with the RoF nerf bat. Hopefully we can fix this. but he was throwing away balacs ck.0? if he lost some you may have gotten it in salvage! Officer suit > winning a dumb PC match. He used both. Didn't die though. He really only killed me when shooting from behind other heavies Scr and commando enthusiast. A commando is not just a suit, but a way of life... "The only thing to fear is fear itself"
Hakyou Brutor Pure Evil. 1106	Posted - 2014.08.23 02:45:00 - [30] - Quote Mauren NOON wrote: Yeah.....it is a shame. Probably for the best. You probably would have went negative :) probs... how well did you do again? oh right...



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