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Soraya Xel
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Posted - 2014.08.22 18:20:00 -
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As much as I hate respecs in general, I'd be okay with an aurum-based respec. It allows people who absolutely have their heart set on respeccing do so, by supporting the game, without being abusable enough to encourage FOTM play. At least, FOTM play would come with a hefty cost. (As a note, the CPM as a whole doesn't have a consensus opinion on this topic, I think.)
The big thing is that something like this likely couldn't be done without a client patch to add a way to trigger such a respec. As of right now, all respecs that have been done were triggered behind the scenes by CCP. So as long as we're limited to hotfixes, it's probably off the table.
This isn't something we've discussed with CCP, but that doesn't necessarily mean it isn't being discussed within CCP.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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Soraya Xel
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Posted - 2014.08.24 20:28:00 -
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The idea point to an SP cost for a respec, is that if it was percentage-based, it'd be minor and easily surpassable for a newbro, but very costly and painful for a veteran who could just as easily grind out the new SP they need.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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Soraya Xel
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Posted - 2014.08.27 22:02:00 -
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Jebus McKing wrote:Give new players a free respec option when they hit 5mil SP
I could envision something like this.
Jebus McKing wrote:Give everyone a free respec once a year
lolno
Jebus McKing wrote:Give partial respec option everytime there are major changes like changing bonuses around
roflno
Jebus McKing wrote:Not to mention the pay2win outcry that a respec for Aurum option would cause.
Respecs aren't necessary, and don't afford you more SP. In fact, since I suggest they have a penalty, they afford you less SP. That's not pay to win. It's an optional thing, you shouldn't need. The definition of a great pay for item/service in a free to play game.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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Soraya Xel
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Posted - 2014.08.28 13:40:00 -
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Jebus McKing wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:lolnoroflno 10/10 best contribution to the discussion I enjoy discussing things with CPM members everytime.
Glad to help. :)
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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Soraya Xel
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Posted - 2014.08.31 02:21:00 -
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The whole point of SP, is that it isn't supposed to make you better so much as it gives you more flexibility. That it shouldn't take long to max out a single role, but that by continuing to amass SP, you can expand to being capable of more roles. The system is not designed for respecs. Respecs should really never happen on an SP system like this. It fundamentally defeats the purpose of the game design. Because why continuing gaining SP to gain access to more roles, when you can just switch roles whenever you want?
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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Soraya Xel
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Posted - 2014.09.02 14:17:00 -
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Haerr wrote:Any updates on this?
Well, as I said before, I don't think there's any way to implement this in a hotfix. So while it's certainly a discussion point, I think the technical limitations hold it back, for now.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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Soraya Xel
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Posted - 2014.10.10 14:26:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:CPM in don't understand why you are pitching ideas that require the respec to cost money. If players were given the option between paying for a respec and receiving one for free they would choice free.
You are here to represent the players not make money for CCP last i checked. What is stopping you from trying to achieve free respecs?
A lot of players don't want respecs to be available. Many players, are at least, insistent there be limitations to prevent abuse. Cost is a good limitation. Aside from the point that CCP making money on DUST is good for all players of DUST. And when you're trying to avoid pay to win, the best things to suggest be available for AUR are things that are "completely unnecessary", which is about how I classify respecs.
Moot point though at the moment though. Respecs are not currently an automated process.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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Soraya Xel
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Posted - 2014.10.12 01:20:00 -
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Viktor, speaking personally, if a respec did not cost Aurum, I would not support it existing in the game. Because I really do not believe any respecs should be given. Ever. The only allowance I make is that if someone wants it that badly, they should be able to help pay to keep the game running to get it.
In a free to play environment, I think industry-wide it's somewhere around 2% of players* actually buy stuff in a free to play game. So when you consider what's available for AUR, it shouldn't be necessary to progress in the game. Respecs meet that. They are not necessary. In my opinion, you shouldn't even get them. But if you're willing to be part of the 2% paying** for the other 98% to play... I can live with that.
* Found a source: http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2014-04-09-only-2-2-percent-of-free-to-play-users-ever-pay-report
** Have no idea what CCP's over/under on the industry standard is. Seriously, don't read into this. o_o
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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