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David Mustane
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ
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Posted - 2014.08.22 00:59:00 -
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Every vehicle should have it to where they can be shot. ADS, and Tanks are OP because the driver is so safe in their over armored death mobiles.
Tank drivers should have a window in which a sniper should be able to hit them. And ADS should as well. Its is crap that the ADS and tankers are so safe in thier OP vehicles.
Strengthen the SNiper rifles shot to deal 500 HP, and 1000 HP on a thales. Allow the sniper rifle to penetrate all types of walls and the armor of these listed vehicles. |
David Mustane
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ
45
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Posted - 2014.08.22 02:07:00 -
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would it be cool to see a ADS flying them nose dive cuz the pilot got F-ed in the A. |
Zindorak
1.U.P
659
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Posted - 2014.08.22 02:10:00 -
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How about no. kthxbye
Pokemon master!
CCP undo ScP nerf. It hurt my feering very bad
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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
3247
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Posted - 2014.08.22 02:10:00 -
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No. |
Symbioticforks
Pure Evil.
682
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Posted - 2014.08.22 02:13:00 -
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Uhm.. YES..
what are you scared of? just pilot in a heavy suit and this will be a non-issue.
Sniping Dust 514 (video series)
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Riruodo
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2014.08.22 02:14:00 -
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real tanks don't have windows though... (o_O )
My other car is Utena
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David Mustane
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ
45
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Posted - 2014.08.22 02:18:00 -
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awe cry babies afraid of balance to your OP vehicles. |
Mauren NOON
The Exemplars Top Men.
411
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Posted - 2014.08.22 02:22:00 -
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No thanks. I don't want mouse and keyboard snipers getting easy mode vehicle kills
Scr and commando enthusiast.
A commando is not just a suit, but a way of life...
"The only thing to fear is fear itself"
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Symbioticforks
Pure Evil.
682
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Posted - 2014.08.22 02:22:00 -
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straw man ^
Sniping Dust 514 (video series)
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David Mustane
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ
45
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Posted - 2014.08.22 02:23:00 -
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I'm sick of tankers and pilots being unstoppable unless you have proto AV
Missile can be outrun, tanks are all but invincible.
QQ all you want vehicles are OP and they need a counter. |
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Symbioticforks
Pure Evil.
682
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Posted - 2014.08.22 02:24:00 -
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It is pretty much god mode from infantry
Sniping Dust 514 (video series)
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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
3247
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Posted - 2014.08.22 02:26:00 -
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David Mustane wrote:awe cry babies afraid of balance to your OP vehicles. But I have 0 SP in vehicles. |
Foundation Seldon
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
702
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Posted - 2014.08.22 02:29:00 -
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I can think of no better way than to ensure that this game finally becomes HayCoDField514lo-stiny.
Thank you OP for your revolutionary idea. That'll show those vehicle-tards with their already ridiculous SP sink comparatively speaking that they should spec into some fking assault rifles and fight me like a man just like the rest of us. I added some ideas that I think will better round out the plan.
1. Tank drivers should sit atop their main turret so while they're vulnerable they'll at least be able to satisfy themselves with having the largest dongs in the universe. (good tradeoff lolroflxdlmaourmom)
2. ADS drivers should eat sh!t and die. Who cares if a 700k ISK ship drops from the sky like a rock because a redline sniper skillshotted them with their thales while sitting on top of an MCC? LRN2PLAY GIT GUD HTFU amirte?
thx 4 reading.
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Onesimus Tarsus
is-a-Corporation
2502
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Posted - 2014.08.22 02:38:00 -
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Foundation Seldon wrote:I can think of no better way than to ensure that this game finally becomes HayCoDField514lo-stiny.
Thank you OP for your revolutionary idea. That'll show those vehicle-tards with their already ridiculous SP sink comparatively speaking that they should spec into some fking assault rifles and fight me like a man just like the rest of us. I added some ideas that I think will better round out the plan.
1. Tank drivers should sit atop their main turret so while they're vulnerable they'll at least be able to satisfy themselves with having the largest dongs in the universe. (good tradeoff lolroflxdlmaourmom)
2. ADS drivers should eat sh!t and die. Who cares if a 700k ISK ship drops from the sky like a rock because a redline sniper skillshotted them with their thales while sitting on top of an MCC? LRN2PLAY GIT GUD HTFU amirte?
thx 4 reading. Translation: never, ever threaten the safety-pods.
K/D(r) matchmaking fixes the whole game. BEH!
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
13007
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Posted - 2014.08.22 02:43:00 -
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David Mustane wrote:Every vehicle should have it to where they can be shot. ADS, and Tanks are OP because the driver is so safe in their over armored death mobiles.
Tank drivers should have a window in which a sniper should be able to hit them. And ADS should as well. Its is crap that the ADS and tankers are so safe in thier OP vehicles.
Strengthen the SNiper rifles shot to deal 500 HP, and 1000 HP on a thales. Allow the sniper rifle to penetrate all types of walls and the armor of these listed vehicles.
Well when my Blaster, Missile, or Railgun rounds can penetrate cover, I can roll through buildings, and am capable of interstellar flight in my HAV....
Then you might be able to have this.
"We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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Foundation Seldon
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
702
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Posted - 2014.08.22 02:46:00 -
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Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Foundation Seldon wrote:I can think of no better way than to ensure that this game finally becomes HayCoDField514lo-stiny.
Thank you OP for your revolutionary idea. That'll show those vehicle-tards with their already ridiculous SP sink comparatively speaking that they should spec into some fking assault rifles and fight me like a man just like the rest of us. I added some ideas that I think will better round out the plan.
1. Tank drivers should sit atop their main turret so while they're vulnerable they'll at least be able to satisfy themselves with having the largest dongs in the universe. (good tradeoff lolroflxdlmaourmom)
2. ADS drivers should eat sh!t and die. Who cares if a 700k ISK ship drops from the sky like a rock because a redline sniper skillshotted them with their thales while sitting on top of an MCC? LRN2PLAY GIT GUD HTFU amirte?
thx 4 reading. **** Translation: implying that anyone who defends the current status quo of vehicles is a "cry baby" or that the current iteration of vehicles is in anyway "OP" does nothing to further discussion or one's arguments. ****
Fixed that for ya, babe. <3
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RogueTrooper 2000AD
Neckbeard Absolution
257
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Posted - 2014.08.22 02:49:00 -
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Confirming that this David mustane is in fact symbiotic forks.
Take what i say with a bag of salt
Who needs a gun when you can run people over
FW saboteur
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
1010
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Posted - 2014.08.22 03:28:00 -
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No. However, a "headshot" mechanic would be cool.
Eternal Beings - #76 in All Time WP - #90 in All Time Kills. Member since day one, 10 months ago.
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gustavo acosta
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
194
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Posted - 2014.08.22 07:24:00 -
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RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote:Confirming that this David mustane is in fact symbiotic forks. Symbiotic Forks is the lead singer to Megadeth? That sounds very unlikely considering he's a sniper...
Gallente scout, heavy, logi, and assault
Eternal Can I haz ur isk?
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Crimson ShieId
Psygod9
785
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Posted - 2014.08.22 07:28:00 -
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Lol OP vehicles? My RE's beg to differ... and my Gorgon. It just wants a hug though, seems to always be chasing after those ADS to get them hugs... >.> Weird, right?
Nova Knives are best sidearm.
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Defy Gravity
G.L.O.R.Y
497
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Posted - 2014.08.22 07:28:00 -
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ADS yes. HAV no
All of your questions will be answered Here
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IMMORTAL WAR HERO
NECROM0NGERS
169
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Posted - 2014.08.22 08:20:00 -
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Symbioticforks wrote:Uhm.. YES..
what are you scared of? just pilot in a heavy suit and this will be a non-issue.
lol says the guy with a thales
Frowned upon by amateurs: The object of war is not to die for your country but make the other bastard die for his. GSP
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Malleus Malificorum
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
92
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Posted - 2014.08.22 08:22:00 -
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David Mustane wrote:awe cry babies afraid of balance to your OP vehicles.
Balance isn't a circumvention of mechanics. Tanks are meant to be heavily armored death-machines the ability to simply shoot the pilot circumvents what a heavily armored vehicle is and is about.
I'm sorry, but your opinion is poorly formed / uneducated.
If you really want to be able to kill vehicles at any time, skill into either a commando and carry a swarm launcher or skill into a scout and pack RE's/PrE's and nova knives. I saw a player in FW today hop on top of a hostile tank turret and knife it to death as it tried to drive away.
Weep not poor children, For life is this way, Murdering beauty and passion.
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Kosakai
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
83
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Posted - 2014.08.22 08:23:00 -
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no.... wtf guys its futuristic game.... window? really?
PROUD MINMATAR <3 -- IN RUST IS TRUST
FORGE GUN LOVER -- TANK HUNTER
MINJA KNIFER .......
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ladwar
HEARTS OF PHOENIX
2072
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Posted - 2014.08.22 09:00:00 -
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If it had a windows it still has a shield protecting them. You sniper rifle wouldn't make it past it. Also thats a brick ton of work 4 rather minor change. The codeing then new art skins the damage models ect. Its not halo so dont add halo to dust. Its not practical or logical to add to dust. Btw 4 the op av is the counter 4 every vehicle, i worked to balance the lower teirs of sl so its not proto only requirement so use the dam things.
Level 2 Forum Warrior, bitter vet.
I shall smite Thy Trolls with numbers and truth
doing reviews in free time, want 1?
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Venerable Phage
Red Shirts Away Team
243
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Posted - 2014.08.22 09:14:00 -
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The most deadly thing to an ADS - the pilot.
They aren't the easiest thing to fly nor do they come cheap.
My take on 514:
Five Empires, One Dead, Four Alive
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David Mustane
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ
49
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Posted - 2014.08.22 17:48:00 -
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its bullshit a knife can do anything to a vehicle and nothing else does.
As I said A sniper should be able to take out a driver of any vehicle.
The SL got a buff? Bullshit, everything can out run a missile. so what was the point of adding one more missile to shot if everyone can just out run them. You should have extended the range as well to 250m. The standard of 150m is bulshit. All an ADS has to do is go to the celling or fly away. Missiles do nothing.
RE's are nerfed cuz the Tankers cried that they got blown to hell. now before the nerf, RE's were good. Against just about everything. Then the babies got their way after being blown to hell.
But a knife can take out vehicles?
I do not care Vehicles cost you tons of ISK.
No where do I want Snipers to take down a tank, but just the driver. Same with ADS, the driver is too ******* safe.
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Onesimus Tarsus
is-a-Corporation
2509
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Posted - 2014.08.22 18:23:00 -
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Foundation Seldon wrote:Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Foundation Seldon wrote:I can think of no better way than to ensure that this game finally becomes HayCoDField514lo-stiny.
Thank you OP for your revolutionary idea. That'll show those vehicle-tards with their already ridiculous SP sink comparatively speaking that they should spec into some fking assault rifles and fight me like a man just like the rest of us. I added some ideas that I think will better round out the plan.
1. Tank drivers should sit atop their main turret so while they're vulnerable they'll at least be able to satisfy themselves with having the largest dongs in the universe. (good tradeoff lolroflxdlmaourmom)
2. ADS drivers should eat sh!t and die. Who cares if a 700k ISK ship drops from the sky like a rock because a redline sniper skillshotted them with their thales while sitting on top of an MCC? LRN2PLAY GIT GUD HTFU amirte?
thx 4 reading. **** Translation: implying that anyone who defends the current status quo of vehicles is a "cry baby" or that the current iteration of vehicles is in anyway "OP" does nothing to further discussion or one's arguments. **** Fixed that for ya, babe. <3 And didn't that smell like safety.
K/D(r) matchmaking fixes the whole game. Red line snipers and tankers hate it.
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
3176
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Posted - 2014.08.22 18:24:00 -
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I'd love if all vehicles had windows for this purpose.
Actually, with tanks, I'd love to have a mechanic where you could like hack the hatch of the tank and throw a grenade inside. But I imagine that's dreaming just a bit too much. ;)
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
1134
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Posted - 2014.08.22 19:25:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:I'd love if all vehicles had windows for this purpose.
Actually, with tanks, I'd love to have a mechanic where you could like hack the hatch of the tank and throw a grenade inside. But I imagine that's dreaming just a bit too much. ;)
And I'd love for someone to tell you to get ****ed. Oh wait, I just did that.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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David Mustane
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ
50
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Posted - 2014.08.22 19:31:00 -
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love how the pilots and the drivers are the ones against this. Take the safety of the vehicle away.
They are OP and CCP you know this, stop letting them cry their way. You give in and give in now these fucks cant play without their mobile death machines.
They cried so hard when they got blown up, you nerfed the AV to the point of not having any AV. (less a forge gun that will do something, if not under a stupid bug that make the gun not work for the entire clip) |
MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
1134
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Posted - 2014.08.22 19:31:00 -
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David Mustane wrote:its bullshit a knife can do anything to a vehicle and nothing else does.
As I said A sniper should be able to take out a driver of any vehicle.
The SL got a buff? Bullshit, everything can out run a missile. so what was the point of adding one more missile to shot if everyone can just out run them. You should have extended the range as well to 250m. The standard of 150m is bulshit. All an ADS has to do is go to the celling or fly away. Missiles do nothing.
RE's are nerfed cuz the Tankers cried that they got blown to hell. now before the nerf, RE's were good. Against just about everything. Then the babies got their way after being blown to hell.
But a knife can take out vehicles?
I do not care Vehicles cost you tons of ISK.
No where do I want Snipers to take down a tank, but just the driver. Same with ADS, the driver is too ******* safe.
Knifes require a lot of work to kill a vehicle with. Swarm launcher damage was standardized, and the lock range is 175m, the travel range is 400m. They work *very* well. Most tanks didn't care about RE's, it was how they were interacting with other infantry.
Killing the driver is the same as killing a vehicle, and if you don't want to use av weaponry to do that, you either shouldn't be able to or it should be so excessively difficult that it requires the person on the controls at the other end to either think they're Helen Keller, or to think they're playing Helen Keller simulator and even then it should *still* be hard. I have killed tanks with HMG's / Magsecs, it was incredibly difficult and required the assistance of other players.
If you don't want to skill into or use an appropriate tool for the job *don't ****ing whine that you can't do it*.
David Mustane wrote:love how the pilots and the drivers are the ones against this. Take the safety of the vehicle away.
They are OP and CCP you know this, stop letting them cry their way. You give in and give in now these fucks cant play without their mobile death machines.
They cried so hard when they got blown up, you nerfed the AV to the point of not having any AV. (less a forge gun that will do something, if not under a stupid bug that make the gun not work for the entire clip)
Maybe because 'the pilots' have a modicum of common sense? AV has gotten more lethal with every hotfix to the point where we're quickly approaching 1.6 levels of lethality again. The only person crying for their way here is you, and as said earlier, you are wrong and your opinion is terrible, uneducated and frankly ****ing idiotic.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Cass Caul
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Posted - 2014.08.22 19:41:00 -
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If you could shoot the pilots out, i'd collect so many tears I could fill up an entire jar of Myofibril Stimulants
I blame her for nova knife kills on tanks
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Hakyou Brutor
Pure Evil.
1103
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Posted - 2014.08.22 21:25:00 -
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I would agree with you, except you called tanks OP.... |
David Mustane
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ
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Posted - 2014.08.23 00:11:00 -
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Quote:Swarm launcher damage was standardized, and the lock range is 175m, the travel range is 400m. They work *very* well. Most tanks didn't care about RE's, it was how they were interacting with other infantry.
this is bullshit everyone out runs my missiles. the lock on only happens at 150m, which is again bullshit. Swarms are crap and look at as a joke, not one vehicle runs when missiles are on the way. |
Snake Sellors
Hellstorm Inc General Tso's Alliance
347
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Posted - 2014.08.23 01:05:00 -
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David Mustane wrote:Quote:Swarm launcher damage was standardized, and the lock range is 175m, the travel range is 400m. They work *very* well. Most tanks didn't care about RE's, it was how they were interacting with other infantry. this is bullshit everyone out runs my missiles. the lock on only happens at 150m, which is again bullshit. Swarms are crap and look at as a joke, not one vehicle runs when missiles are on the way.
not true, ads pilots run so fast that they would humiliate the flash. seriously the only thing missing from their escape is a smoke bomb.
i wouldn't have a problem with skilled pilots being much harder to kill, but the problem is that they literally fly away to recharge their damage and go straight back to the same target, i.e the guy with the a.v weapon.
Because they know that the swarm launcher is ONLY a threat when they make a mistake. to say that an anti vehicle weapon is designed to chase away a vehicle is silly, to believe it is for making ads into lethal boomerangs is just plain stupid.
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buzzzzzzz killllllllll
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
664
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Posted - 2014.08.23 01:46:00 -
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David Mustane wrote:Quote:Swarm launcher damage was standardized, and the lock range is 175m, the travel range is 400m. They work *very* well. Most tanks didn't care about RE's, it was how they were interacting with other infantry. this is bullshit everyone out runs my missiles. the lock on only happens at 150m, which is again bullshit. Swarms are crap and look at as a joke, not one vehicle runs when missiles are on the way.
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