As we all know the Scrambler Rifle is currently get quite a bit of stick. Some of it fair some of it not, most of it biased. With that in mind I'm hoping to ignore all of that and show just the pure maths.

From talking to other players and through personal experience, 7 shots a second is a reasonable ROF for the scrambler rifle, excluding turbos and FOTM followers. The average human click speed is 6 per second so this isn't unlikely.

Let's Start by looking at the stats on a scrambler rifle.
Now at 7 shots a second the DPS (excluding charge) is 539
According to most people the ScR overheats within 14 shots at profciency 0, this is also included my own personal experience.
This gives 2 seconds BEFORE overheat and 5 second seize duration. (However firing 13 shots means you cooldown within 2 seconds)

If we include the charge shot which does 2.5 times damage and overheats with only 7 shots on average. We see a DPS of 659
but only 1 second before overheat. And then of course the 5 second seizure.

Now let's look at the Assault Rifle (The short range high DPS weapon)
At the fully automatic ROF of 800 RPM (13 shots a second) the DPS equates to 453
With this ROF you get a 6 second magazine before reload is required.

So now let's stack the 2 together I will put the Assault on the left and the scrambler on the right.
DPS vs Shields: 498 vs 646
DPS vs Armour: 407 vs 431

DPS over 2 seconds (Assuming no Charge, no Seizure) 906 vs 1,078
DPS over 2 seconds (Assuming Charge, no Seizure) 906 vs 659
DPS over 2 seconds (Assuming Charge and Seizure) 906 vs 659

DPS over 5 seconds (Assuming No Charge, Seizure) 2,265 vs 1,078
DPS over 5 seconds (Assuming No Charge, No Seizure) 2,265 vs 1,617
DPS over 5 seconds (Assuming Charge, Seizure) 2,265 vs 659
DPS over 5 seconds (Assuming Charge, No Seizure) 2,265 vs 1,318

DPS over 10 seconds (Assuming No Charge, Seizure) 3,171 vs 2,176
DPS over 10 seconds (Assuming No Charge, No Seizure) 3,171 vs 3,234
DPS over 10 seconds (Assuming Charge, Seizure) 3,171 vs 1,318
DPS over 10 seconds (Assuming Charge, No Seizure) 3,171 vs 1,977

As you can see the user of the scrambler rifle can choose to either Alpha damage them to death in less than 2 seconds, or they can outlast them in a marathon of combat that only the scrambler rifle can maintain. Strangely the Charge shot is actually worse in any event where you don't kill your opponent within the first second.

Wether you like it or not the scrambler rifle needs tweaking and conaidering it's possible to achieve an extra 4 shots a secomd at the moment it most DEFINITELY needs a more reasonable ROF cap.

Personally I suggest a simple nerf to the ROF, it currently stands at 705 RPM approximately 11 a second, this gives too much room for abuse. As you can see at 7 a second the scrambler rifle already outclasses the AR.

I would personally prefer around 368 RPM which is JUST over 6 shots a second. Which comes in at 467 DPS, which is only 15 more than the AR so as to give some leeway for the overheat mechanic. This shouldn't really effect the feel of the weapon for most people.

Does this seem reasonable?

It's got lower dispersion than the AR.
It's no more skilled than any other rifle.

As for the RR I'm working on that too, but public opinion is against the ScR right now amd as a wise man once say
All Rivers lead to ocean, don't fight upstream just for shorter river

I would rather the RR, CR, Projectile Damage profile all be nerfed first
I would rathe the Sidearms, Sniper Rifles, LAV's, SP Sinks all be buffed first.

But the ScR CERTAINLY needs some regulation (even if just a little) I'm not gonna fight against that opinion, because I believe in it.

So shooting at 11 shots per second (which by the way slows the heat build up) and achieving over 700 dps is perfectly fine?
Or would you rather I nerf the damage until at 11 shots a second it still comes in at under the AR? (Which by the way would be a wopping 40% damage nerf)

Once again unless you are abusing the weapons ROF, you'll barely notice the difference.

Armor Tanked heavies being unkillable without an O.H isn't really special. I've had a Sentinel in PC survive a full clip from my Boundless CR (20m away) though he had next to no HP left.

Though I think having long range and charging capabilities are both advantages.


Considering how 400RPM is about 7 shots a second, you'd dealing 700DPS with absolutely no heat sink.

That would make it even more broken than the TAR from Uprising 1.0.


Duvolle Tactical Assault Rifle:

• DPS vs. Armor: 546HP/s
• DPS vs. Shields: 667.3HP/s

I don't enjoy being lied to, so this fact was not fun.

That can't be right, just look at the math: 800RPM / 60 = 13.333 | * 72.8 = 606.333HP/s

Come to think of it ProtoFits isn't correct either.

+1 Atiim

You stole the words right outta my mouth

The stat is incorrect, so any reference to it is nullifies your argument.

It says the base damage is 72.8HP per shot.

edit: It appears as if you hit the "All Skills" button and are sampling it with Proficiency V. In that case, the DPS is 697.66HP/s.

Duvolle Tactical has an achievable DPS of 606Gàô at PRO,make the ScR have an achievable DPS of roughly the same. 600ish.

To have exactly 600 DPS at PRO(which I think is fair, all things considered) the ScR should have a RoF of exactly 503.497.

Do this.

I honestly think 600 is too much. Almost nobody can do that with their fingers.
The trick is to find a balancing point. A place where modded controllers aren't overwhelmingly good, but yet very few people can oversample it regularly.

It's not that the heat build-up reduces the faster you fire, it's that the Heat Sink is based on a "Cost per Second" value, similar to a Laser Rifle. Because of this, how many shots you can get off before overheating depends on your ability to spam the fire button.

That's why Modded Controllers and SCRs are so powerful. You overheat at the same time as everyone else, but can fire a ridiculously higher amount of shots before doing so.

Another reason why I hate the inclusion of kb/m on a ps3 exclusive... but I digress. I'd like to see shayz get anywhere near that with a trigger button. Misleading for him to say he has a fast trigger finger. More like he has a fast finger tapper.

That's the problem though, we either make it so EVERYONE is firing at about the same speed, or we nerf the damage, then those that can't fire fast enough end up with a weapon they can't use. I would be prepared to go to 417 RPM