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Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
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Posted - 2014.08.19 13:23:00 -
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After Charlie, I decided to use them and noticed how harder it is to kill using it's splash damage. Even scouts sometimes won't die with an allotek PC. I feel it needs a splash damage buff. The current splash for the allotek is about 300. Before Charlie, one shot would usually kill scouts and most medium dropsuits. Now, you need atleast 2 shots to assure death. Direct damage is good but it needs a splash buff. Most med suits have about 400-600 hp. Scouts have 200-350. How about buffing splash to 400 (allotek). It's a one shot splash for scouts like it used to be but mediums can still survive. Besides that, everything else is ok with it.
SPAWN.KILL.DIE.RESPAWN.
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Coleman Gray
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
1098
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Posted - 2014.08.19 13:30:00 -
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AV weapon, your lucky you get to kill anyone full stop with a direct hit, never mind the AoE. But I would like an AP variant of the PLC, like a handheld mortar...but then we do have the MD
If Preparation is half of the battle and knowing is the other half, Then there is no need to fight.
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Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar
Silver Bullet Solutions
DARKSTAR ARMY
751
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Posted - 2014.08.19 13:55:00 -
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i want an assault plasma cannon with 3 rounds in the clip and more splash. |
The Eristic
Dust 90210
618
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Posted - 2014.08.19 20:16:00 -
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Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote:i want an assault plasma cannon with 3 rounds in the clip and more splash.
This should be the basis of the Gallente heavy weapon, the Plasma Mortar. Big AoE bombardment with firing mechanics similar to the Assault Forge Gun.
Assault PlC could be similar, but 4 or 5 rounds, faster projectile and RoF but much lower direct damage with bigger splash, hold trigger to charge and auto fire. Would make ammo management very important.
Breach could have a 2-round clip with big direct damage, but very long charge and reload in comparison to the other variants.
Reality is the original Rorschach.
Verily! So much for all that.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
2892
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Posted - 2014.08.19 20:25:00 -
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If you want a weapon with better splash damage, use the Mass Driver.
PLC is honestly in an awesome spot right now. Its a badass anti infantry weapon if you get good at using it, and its a badass anti HAV/LAV weapon if you get the proper skills into it.
With the PLC you're trading a near guaranteed kill with a direct hit for meh splash damage, whereas the Mass Driver you trade better splash for less direct damage. |
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CCP Rattati
C C P
C C P Alliance
5471
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Posted - 2014.08.19 23:46:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:If you want a weapon with better splash damage, use the Mass Driver.
PLC is honestly in an awesome spot right now. Its a badass anti infantry weapon if you get good at using it, and its a badass anti HAV/LAV weapon if you get the proper skills into it.
With the PLC you're trading a near guaranteed kill with a direct hit for meh splash damage, whereas the Mass Driver you trade better splash for less direct damage.
Couldn't agree more, as a part time PLC/Swarm Commando I can deal with "almost" anything and have fun doing it.
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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DeathwindRising
ROGUE RELICS
514
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Posted - 2014.08.20 00:41:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:If you want a weapon with better splash damage, use the Mass Driver.
PLC is honestly in an awesome spot right now. Its a badass anti infantry weapon if you get good at using it, and its a badass anti HAV/LAV weapon if you get the proper skills into it.
With the PLC you're trading a near guaranteed kill with a direct hit for meh splash damage, whereas the Mass Driver you trade better splash for less direct damage. Couldn't agree more, as a part time PLC/Swarm Commando I can deal with "almost" anything and have fun doing it.
Any chance we can get the swarm launcher bonus added to caldari commando?
I know it's been asked before, but is there anything that could be done?
What about tagging the swarm launcher as a rail weapon? |
Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
570
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Posted - 2014.08.20 00:57:00 -
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the only issues i have with the PLC is the god awful slot travel speed on the projectile and the severity of the arc/bullet drop
[[LogiBro in Training]]
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SponkSponkSponk
The Southern Legion
Final Resolution.
1001
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Posted - 2014.08.20 02:04:00 -
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DeathwindRising wrote:Any chance we can get the swarm launcher bonus added to caldari commando?
I know it's been asked before, but is there anything that could be done?
What about tagging the swarm launcher as a rail weapon?
That might also change its damage profile though :/
Dust/Eve transfers
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
573
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Posted - 2014.08.20 04:12:00 -
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SponkSponkSponk wrote:DeathwindRising wrote:Any chance we can get the swarm launcher bonus added to caldari commando?
I know it's been asked before, but is there anything that could be done?
What about tagging the swarm launcher as a rail weapon? That might also change its damage profile though :/
it wont as swarms == explosive but i get what hes saying
he wants caldari to have bonus damage to swarms(explosive by proxy) with out stepping on minmatar toes
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Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar
Silver Bullet Solutions
DARKSTAR ARMY
753
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Posted - 2014.08.20 05:59:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:If you want a weapon with better splash damage, use the Mass Driver.
PLC is honestly in an awesome spot right now. Its a badass anti infantry weapon if you get good at using it, and its a badass anti HAV/LAV weapon if you get the proper skills into it.
With the PLC you're trading a near guaranteed kill with a direct hit for meh splash damage, whereas the Mass Driver you trade better splash for less direct damage. Couldn't agree more, as a part time PLC/Swarm Commando I can deal with "almost" anything and have fun doing it.
so what happened with adding variants to the plc, i know you mentioned it before. and pokey if i wanted to use a massdriver i would, i wanted an assault plasma cannon with an emphasis on splash because plasma weapons remove shields better unlike explosives. |
jace silencerww
Sebiestor Field Sappers
Minmatar Republic
30
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Posted - 2014.08.20 07:09:00 -
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DeathwindRising wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:If you want a weapon with better splash damage, use the Mass Driver.
PLC is honestly in an awesome spot right now. Its a badass anti infantry weapon if you get good at using it, and its a badass anti HAV/LAV weapon if you get the proper skills into it.
With the PLC you're trading a near guaranteed kill with a direct hit for meh splash damage, whereas the Mass Driver you trade better splash for less direct damage. Couldn't agree more, as a part time PLC/Swarm Commando I can deal with "almost" anything and have fun doing it. Any chance we can get the swarm launcher bonus added to caldari commando? I know it's been asked before, but is there anything that could be done? What about tagging the swarm launcher as a rail weapon?
lol I asked that to CCP and they say I quote "NO it would make the caldari commando too strong by have rail rifle & sniper rifle they are at a good spot". lol I also asked well since the gal and Minnie both have av light weapons give the caldari & amarr one as well. I got we can not say if or ever give cald & amarr an light av weapon. so I asked well can the amarr & caldari have another light weapon since both Minnie & gall commandos both have 3 light weapon their bonus help. again same answer we can not say if or ever give cald & amarr an light weapon. just in case here are the bonuses for each light weapon. Minnie com- combat rifle, mass driver & swarm launcher / gall com- assault rifle, shotgun & plasma cannon. / caldari- sniper rifles & rail rifles / amarr - scrambler rifle & laser rifle. |
The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
3983
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Posted - 2014.08.20 07:42:00 -
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Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote:i want an assault plasma cannon with 3 rounds in the clip and more splash.
How about you use a massdriver instead?
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Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
55
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Posted - 2014.08.20 10:13:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote:i want an assault plasma cannon with 3 rounds in the clip and more splash. How about you use a massdriver instead?
It's not the same feeling. When using the plasma cannon, you can go anti infantry AND vehicle. You get higher damage. You can multitask.
SPAWN.KILL.DIE.RESPAWN.
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Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar
Silver Bullet Solutions
DARKSTAR ARMY
755
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Posted - 2014.08.20 14:41:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote:i want an assault plasma cannon with 3 rounds in the clip and more splash. How about you use a massdriver instead?
well if you would have read my second post you would see why. |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
2922
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Posted - 2014.08.20 15:43:00 -
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Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote:
so what happened with adding variants to the plc, i know you mentioned it before. and pokey if i wanted to use a massdriver i would, i wanted an assault plasma cannon with an emphasis on splash because plasma weapons remove shields better unlike explosives.
Honestly man I've found that practicing with Flux Grenades + Mass Driver is freaking deadly. I try to time it so the flux and the mass driver go off/hit at nearly the same time, so their shields get stripped away right before the explosive damage hits. It's a nasty combo and messes up just about any suit type.
I do understand your plea for an anti-shield weapon, though I fear giving the Plasma cannon more splash damage would make it overpowered. Perhaps a variant with less direct damage but better splash range? |
Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
56
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Posted - 2014.08.20 20:27:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote:
so what happened with adding variants to the plc, i know you mentioned it before. and pokey if i wanted to use a massdriver i would, i wanted an assault plasma cannon with an emphasis on splash because plasma weapons remove shields better unlike explosives.
Honestly man I've found that practicing with Flux Grenades + Mass Driver is freaking deadly. I try to time it so the flux and the mass driver go off/hit at nearly the same time, so their shields get stripped away right before the explosive damage hits. It's a nasty combo and messes up just about any suit type. I do understand your plea for an anti-shield weapon, though I fear giving the Plasma cannon more splash damage would make it overpowered. Perhaps a variant with less direct damage but better splash range?
I see your point and your right. I am a shield destroyer=ƒÿü gal scout with allotek plasma cannon, adv flux and smg. But atleast make the allotek 350 splash. 312 currently.
SPAWN.KILL.DIE.RESPAWN.
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Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar
Silver Bullet Solutions
DARKSTAR ARMY
755
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Posted - 2014.08.20 21:44:00 -
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i dont want to change the existing plc, i want new variants added like the breach, and the assault. its not that much to ask for every weapon should have variants, like the massdriver i wish there was a variant of it that had av grenades/timed mines. little grenades that work exactly like thrown av grenades but these explode after a small delay if they dont detonate on a vehicle. |
Chit Hoppened
The Exemplars
Top Men.
351
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Posted - 2014.08.21 10:47:00 -
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Burst Plasma Cannon
2 Round Burst
60% of Pro Damage/giant orange flying sperm
Slightly more Ammo (like +1 base)
Slightly longer Charge time
^ Officer Plasma Cannon or us true Cannoneers riot!
Also, the Plasma Cannon is working WONDERFULLY.
If I can solo Gunnlogis with a Basic Cannon and AV 'nades, it's working proper.
Don't break something that is (somewhat) fixed.
Bringing Heavy Metal to New Eden.
Cannon Fever Representative
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Lloyd Orfay
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
38
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Posted - 2014.08.22 17:47:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:After Charlie, I decided to use them and noticed how harder it is to kill using it's splash damage. Even scouts sometimes won't die with an allotek PC. I feel it needs a splash damage buff. The current splash for the allotek is about 300. Before Charlie, one shot would usually kill scouts and most medium dropsuits. Now, you need atleast 2 shots to assure death. Direct damage is good but it needs a splash buff. Most med suits have about 400-600 hp. Scouts have 200-350. How about buffing splash to 400 (allotek). It's a one shot splash for scouts like it used to be but mediums can still survive. Besides that, everything else is ok with it.
The point of it having less splash damage is that it's an Anti Vehicle weapon, and unconventional uses of certain weapons becomes too useful and allows another form of high reward, low risk gameplay.
A game SHOULD be diverse in gameplay, but not too easy or too hard.
The only suits functional for good gameplay are logistics and sentinels, so rent your meat shield today!
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