DUST Search - Hotfix Delta - Reduce SP cost of Proto suits?

emtbraincase wrote:

SP investment is a matter of desire. ANYONE can get a suit to proto, just by owning a character for awhile. It is that bonus applied which is important as it makes Dren suits rep like a pro. If you wanted a level playing field (AKA everyone in proto) make it so my cheapest effective Proto Minlogi suit is less than 150k, since isk has, and always will be, the deciding factor in this game (as evident by the initial and continued desire to farm the donut, nobody would do it if there is no benefit. as displayed by the previous donut holders disappearing after their isk faucet got slowed down unless they actually had to fight themselves). If you have it, you are extremely difficult to beat if not impossible (see old donut)....if you don't, then it is only a matter of time before you fall to anyone who does.

People can say what they want, but SP cost is fine, if not kinda on the cheap for the suit (got about 6-7 suits to proto total, 3 logi) because of the carryover bonus to Std/Adv. The real elephant in the room if the isk cost to actually run proto, not the time it takes to let passives eventually build up to a suit. Play this game long enough and you will have a proto fit, only reason someone doesn't is by choice, not anything the game can change to accommodate.

P.S. Don't normally agree with, let alone like, things several people her say.....but this is something that needs repeating. SP cost is fine, it just gets priced out of the normal players hands through isk cost and the ease others have to farm it.

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Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 3064	Posted - 2014.08.19 16:56:00 - [31] - Quote No. Once you go prototype, you become the embodiment of glory itself. It is the single most powerful item in the game due to how much you can fit inside it. Hell, even my Minmatar Scout can actually use all their slots! Me? Well, I become the embodiment of a God o' Bacon n' Glory. The skills are extremely good at level 5. Only odd thing is that I'm more likely to die in my proto Scout than my STD lol. I use my proto to eff around with fittings because I have so many, rather than using the STD for that.
Patrlck 56 444	Posted - 2014.08.19 17:00:00 - [32] - Quote Happy Violentime wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Happy Violentime wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Happy Violentime wrote: Is a Proto suit really worth 1.9million SP more than the Adv version? Meh. Yes. No it's not. Don't ask a question if you're too stupid to accept the answer. Soz, but I have heard so much guff from members of FA that I consider you all a bunch of dumbcuntz This isn't even an insult anymore. XD
Krixus Flux Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 425	Posted - 2014.08.19 17:03:00 - [33] - Quote I roll my eyes at your post. Amateur poetic romanticism denied. Lower the cost. Didnt Rattati once said they wanted to level the playing field? Well there you go. Saying what's on people's minds
emtbraincase Savage Bullet 197	Posted - 2014.08.19 17:24:00 - [34] - Quote SP investment is a matter of desire. ANYONE can get a suit to proto, just by owning a character for awhile. It is that bonus applied which is important as it makes Dren suits rep like a pro. If you wanted a level playing field (AKA everyone in proto) make it so my cheapest effective Proto Minlogi suit is less than 150k, since isk has, and always will be, the deciding factor in this game (as evident by the initial and continued desire to farm the donut, nobody would do it if there is no benefit. as displayed by the previous donut holders disappearing after their isk faucet got slowed down unless they actually had to fight themselves). If you have it, you are extremely difficult to beat if not impossible (see old donut)....if you don't, then it is only a matter of time before you fall to anyone who does. People can say what they want, but SP cost is fine, if not kinda on the cheap for the suit (got about 6-7 suits to proto total, 3 logi) because of the carryover bonus to Std/Adv. The real elephant in the room if the isk cost to actually run proto, not the time it takes to let passives eventually build up to a suit. Play this game long enough and you will have a proto fit, only reason someone doesn't is by choice, not anything the game can change to accommodate. P.S. Don't normally agree with, let alone like, things several people her say.....but this is something that needs repeating. SP cost is fine, it just gets priced out of the normal players hands through isk cost and the ease others have to farm it.
TechMechMeds Level 5 Forum Warrior 5239	Posted - 2014.08.19 17:29:00 - [35] - Quote emtbraincase wrote: SP investment is a matter of desire. ANYONE can get a suit to proto, just by owning a character for awhile. It is that bonus applied which is important as it makes Dren suits rep like a pro. If you wanted a level playing field (AKA everyone in proto) make it so my cheapest effective Proto Minlogi suit is less than 150k, since isk has, and always will be, the deciding factor in this game (as evident by the initial and continued desire to farm the donut, nobody would do it if there is no benefit. as displayed by the previous donut holders disappearing after their isk faucet got slowed down unless they actually had to fight themselves). If you have it, you are extremely difficult to beat if not impossible (see old donut)....if you don't, then it is only a matter of time before you fall to anyone who does. People can say what they want, but SP cost is fine, if not kinda on the cheap for the suit (got about 6-7 suits to proto total, 3 logi) because of the carryover bonus to Std/Adv. The real elephant in the room if the isk cost to actually run proto, not the time it takes to let passives eventually build up to a suit. Play this game long enough and you will have a proto fit, only reason someone doesn't is by choice, not anything the game can change to accommodate. P.S. Don't normally agree with, let alone like, things several people her say.....but this is something that needs repeating. SP cost is fine, it just gets priced out of the normal players hands through isk cost and the ease others have to farm it. Hehe, if it stays the same then its no skin off my back. Think about the newbs people, the newbs!. "Oh, look!, There's, uh, two women f ing a polar bear". "Don't tell me those things".
emtbraincase Savage Bullet 198	Posted - 2014.08.19 17:34:00 - [36] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Hehe, if it stays the same then its no skin off my back. Think about the newbs people, the newbs!. to hell with the newbs, they are lower life forms, but enticing targets. I'm just shocked that people think SP cost is high for proto, and don't even mention isk cost to support and maintain use of said suit.
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3887	Posted - 2014.08.19 17:37:00 - [37] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Happy Violentime wrote: Soz, but I have heard so much guff from members of FA that I consider you all a bunch of dumbcuntz Your inability to appreciate the wisdom coming to you from your social betters is unfortunate and will likely result in the loss of isk, clones, and sexual status. LMAO B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA They call me ~Princess Zatata~ Skype: Zatara.Rought Twitter: @ZataraRought
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 4315	Posted - 2014.08.19 18:16:00 - [38] - Quote I'd like to see skill multipliers decrease for Engineering and Electronics. They should be a 1x skill. There is really no justification for it being so high. Level 4 Forum Warrior Very, very bitter vet PSN: wbrom42
Ryme Intrinseca Eurotrash Pubstars 1574	Posted - 2014.08.19 18:24:00 - [39] - Quote Happy Violentime wrote: Is a Proto suit really worth 1.9million SP more than the Adv version? Meh. If they gave me a respec, and increased SP cost of a proto suit to 30million SP, I'd still get one. So it's actually a bargain at 1.9mil.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 2237	Posted - 2014.08.19 18:24:00 - [40] - Quote Prototype is an opportunity to parade around in overpriced suits that cost you 130-250k a pop! Hell yes they're worth 1.9 mil SP. If you're gonna die in a fire, you should do so stylishly.

emtbraincase Savage Bullet 199	Posted - 2014.08.19 18:36:00 - [41] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Prototype is an opportunity to parade around in overpriced suits that cost you 130-250k a pop! Hell yes they're worth 1.9 mil SP. If you're gonna die in a fire, you should do so stylishly. and yet, you get the benefit of "skilling into" Min proto suits on the absolutely hideous, and entirely isk free, and completely useful Dren variant and that equipment all works just as good. Some people have proto skilled, but never even bough a proto suit of that variant in their life. Why spend money you aren't going to use, I thought Goons were supposed to own everything so why would'nt they want all proto fittings.* thank God I can quit agreeing with Goons again. You were all starting to make sense in this thread, and I was concerned for my mental health. Unless you were saying that as sarcasm, which would make sen..........FFFFFUUUUUUUUUU!* **Please tell me you were serious.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 2238	Posted - 2014.08.19 18:40:00 - [42] - Quote emtbraincase wrote: Please tell me you were serious.** I have bolded and underlined a word in your comment. What does this word mean? It appears to be gibberish.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16206	Posted - 2014.08.19 19:26:00 - [43] - Quote Happy Violentime wrote: Is a Proto suit really worth 1.9million SP more than the Adv version? Meh. I think its a bit too cheap. CPM 0 Secretary, CPM 1 Elect Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Advanced Minmatar Logistics =// Unlocked
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 3189	Posted - 2014.08.19 19:40:00 - [44] - Quote Happy Violentime wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Happy Violentime wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Happy Violentime wrote: Is a Proto suit really worth 1.9million SP more than the Adv version? Meh. Yes. No it's not. Don't ask a question if you're too stupid to accept the answer. Soz, but I have heard so much guff from members of FA that I consider you all a bunch of dumbcuntz Say that about any other member and I won't say you're wrong, but Himiko and Arkena have something between their ears... Member of a Dead Alliance and Dead Corp Coming through, still better than you FOTM corp hopping whores
buzzzzzzz killllllllll Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 663	Posted - 2014.08.19 20:27:00 - [45] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: I'd like to see skill multipliers decrease for Engineering and Electronics. They should be a 1x skill. There is really no justification for it being so high. what about the fact that they are one of the most important skills to level up, and most powerful?
Nirwanda Vaughns 426th Infantry 679	Posted - 2014.08.19 21:43:00 - [46] - Quote lv5's have always been about specializing. sure they're a little steep but they'll give you that edge over other who can't be bothered to skil into it and preffer AUR or LP store items. proto logi helps with equipment fitting, scout proto helps cloak fitting. its only a small amount but if you want the best from your suits you have to put the work in Rolling with the punches
Zindorak 1.U.P 637	Posted - 2014.08.19 21:50:00 - [47] - Quote Yes reduce it 600k for level 4 screw that im better off getting core up Pokemon master
Michael Arck 5255	Posted - 2014.08.19 21:54:00 - [48] - Quote Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: lv5's have always been about specializing. sure they're a little steep but they'll give you that edge over other who can't be bothered to skil into it and preffer AUR or LP store items. proto logi helps with equipment fitting, scout proto helps cloak fitting. its only a small amount but if you want the best from your suits you have to put the work in Honestly specializing for the new player is rather stupid the way they constantly change stuff. You specialize into something then later its deemed OP and the item/suit is drastically changed. Archistrategos *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain*
Lloyd Orfay Commando Perkone Caldari State 33	Posted - 2014.08.19 22:50:00 - [49] - Quote Hotfix Delta - Doing an actually useful change such as not making guns super precise and giving them all recoil based on the damage they're capable of. Minmatar suits as a car chassis, Gallente suits for the plates, Caldari suits for shield, and Amarr suits for the seats.


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