Two words: kdr matchmaking fixes this.

Yeah Turbo controllers on a scrambler can help you keep above a 2.0 kd/r just sayin'.

On topic however, I've been saying for ages the sp disparity will only get worse and keep getting worse the older the game becomes without some sort of ladder matchmaking. I'll say it for the hundredth time, it's not rocket science, passive buffs alone over time with players having 70 million sp will make the game no contest for newcomers. Add the fact that there is an active SP cap and you have a seniority based fps lobby shooter. That's why I think most the population tends to be pretty bad and a lot of the old vets I've seen admit this is their first rodeo having come from Eve and never cared for fps games before... the way this game was designed on many levels discourages competitive play. So the blueberries who are bad at fps games generally stay so that they can beat up the newer players when they get more sp while most competitive players just say **** this noise, and quit and play a more balanced fps.

It's a perpetuating bully culture that encourages poor sportsmanship.

Again also for the hundredth time:

>Thinks a tps open world mmo is a fps lobby shooter.

No just no, understand please that there is something called game design. Also understand, that its a well studied field especially for game developers. Also understand that you can't just copy one system from another genre and it miraculously work well. Like i've used a million times before, how popular would online monopoly be if players were given rising dollar amounts at the start of every game based upon how long they have been playing? Eve is an open world anarchic cluster **** designed around ganking. Dust is a lobby shooter...

The way Dust has been an utter failure in the NPE department has statistically and objectively proven my point.

Take your welcome to New Eden and shove it up your ass. You may not care, but CCP as a company that needs to make money should care. If you want Legion to fail, then by all means keep supporting a bad system.

I've played FPS games on PC and consoles for 20 years now. If Legion keeps the current sp system, especially if it transfers dust sp over to Legion, this game will nose dive even if it is on PC. Don't come crying to me when you realize you burned down New Eden's chance of branching and integrating with shooters. CCP hasn't even greenlit Legion and they sure as hell will pull the plug if it ends up averaging a couple thousand players like Dust. You gotta be willing to drop a couple thousand dollars a month on Legion if you want them to keep it running.

If you feel the sp disparity is no big deal. Create an alt, give it no isk, and use it for the next couple of months alone. Don't play a few games then say eh not feeling it let me play my main! No, if you want to stand by your bullshit then you play for a couple of months only on that alt and see if you still feel sp isn't a big deal.

"But how will I grind out the sp cap on my main then?" Why would you need to? You just said you only really need about 4-5 million sp to be effective.

>Eve is a growing playerbase.

After 10 years in the MMO online genre known for getting millions of subscribers and practically being able to found its own country if subscribers were citizens Eve has extremely and slowly grown. Eve is the kind of example you don't want to use for player growth.

If you're that much better, you'll never see that player on the opposite team. You'll see people as lethal as you for whatever reason, and you'll die. A lot.

to the guy saying dumb things like "you only use 6 mil sp in any given battle or suit.

i call bullshit

i have MAXED out passive skills, meaning even if we run the same suit, same weapons, and same build i have 20mil SP worth of passive skills backing me up that they dont

i hit harder, run faster, have more HP, regen quicker, scan better, dont show up on basic scans, relad faster have more ammo, hack faster, maxxed out my cpu and pg so i can fit my suits ALOT better, basically i can run around in basic fits all day and still be able to leverage my 43million SP advantage by a wide margin.

core passive skills are 90% of the skills in the game, the only skills im not using every second i play are the various dropsuits ive skilled into and whatever weapons/modules im not using.

but it still gives me about 20-25mil of an SP advantage due to all my passive skills, i have 4 mil invested in combat rifles alone giving me a huge advantage even while using my basic combat rifle against a new player using an advanced CR.

in my little assault suit i have

hack speed
biotics
shield upgrades and extenders
armor upgrades and plate bonus
regen bonuses
scanning passives
more cpu and pg to work with
better easyer to fit granades
massive amounts of sp spent in my combat rifles, mass drivers and SMGs that far outclass what a new player can do
passive suit bonus

hell its easyer to tell you what i dont get a bonus for when i run my assault

6mil my ass, passive skills are king wich is why i maxed everything that grants a passive bonus and still have only 1 proto suit at 43 million sp

Don't start with this I'm not hostile bullshit. You just said welcome to New Eden, this is a go to statement of saying go **** yourself HTFU that is perpetuated here and in Eve. I don't really care if you aren't hostile I'm going to obviously be hostile because you are dismissive.

Here's the thing and its the truth. You're bad at this game if you think having unlocked multiple proto fits is not an advantage. If you spent 47 million sp and can only perform one role, I'm either going to call bullshit, or you haven't spent most of your sp. Believe it or not, as the game drags on and players get more sp more players are capable of fielding the best gear with higher passive buffs giving them an inherent advantage. You may approve of this and you may not, and either way I don't care as I have no real affinity for the success of Legion, I'm just trying to be realistic for CCP if they actually want it to succeed and to be honest with how tight lipped CCP has been about sp character transfers, I think they know they will have to reset as well or even restructure the sp system. What I don't like and is apart of what you have claimed in your posts that made me hostile, was that 4-5 million sp is all it takes to be competitive. I'm sorry no, if you think versatility in multiple proto roles isn't necessary when the battlefield is changing then you are non-competitve, which again is fine. But don't claim to understand things that you don't. The advantage of having millions upon millions of sp is that a player can fit 30 different proto kitted role changing fits that will hard counter other opponents. Because in an asymmetric fps, hard counters will always be present.

I know their different generes, but the reason I CAN'T get into other FPSs the way I could dust is that [b]I get to advance my character[/b

You mean you aren't very good and need to gain passive buffs to make you feel like you are accomplishing something.

not follow a pre determined get this gun, get this scope, get this drone, get this claymore, etc. The choices are made by me, not a programmer in [insert country] following the "Holy Book of FPS Design"

It's called FOTM, and its always been a problem. Its also exacerbated by the sp system where vets can always easily find and use the FOTM as their sp total rises.