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Meee One
Hello Kitty Logistics
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Posted - 2014.08.19 01:06:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:A dev stated that they were taking a look at the minsent, and as a user of it, I wanted to throw out what gripes I have with the suit.
The biggest problem, in my opinion, is the speed. The Minmatar basic heavy frame is faster than the Minmatar Sentinel, in exchange for more armor. No other suit does this. The Gallente and Amarr heavy frames both get increased armor but keep the same speed when they make the jump to sentinel, so why not the Minmatar as well?
My other problem is the fact that the Minmatar Sentinel is armor centered. It has more highs than lows, a decent shield recharge rate, and a decent shield delay. All the base stats point towards it being a shield centered suit. (The Minmatar basic heavy frame has more shields than armor, I don't see why that would change when it goes to Sentinel)
In the event that the above paragraph made it into the game, I would also recommend that the resistance to blasters on armor be changed to resistance to blasters on shields. (You could say the same thing for the Amarr Sentinel)
TL;DR- Buff Minsent speed, flip shield/armor stats, change armor resistance to shield resistance.
1 kincat and a Minsent can OUTRUN my UNTANKED Minlogi.
And of course if it can outrun the Minlogi,it can well catch up to and annihilate the other logis.
HELL NO TO SPEED.
Was banned for fighting for logistics survival on 7/25/2014 02:11. Logistics will never be respected.
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Meee One
Hello Kitty Logistics
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Posted - 2014.08.19 01:17:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:Minmatar Sentinel also has a lower percentage of HP compared to the caldari/gallente suits than any other type of suit in the game.
Minmatar scouts have the same percentage less HP as logistics and assaults...and even the Amarr Sentinel has the correct increase in HP...but the minmatar was screwed over for one reason or another. I think this was an oddball outlier case. I think if the MinSent retains the lowest HP count it needs to be damn near assault level speed, a fast attack Heavy, as it were
You want to beat a scout in a foot race with 600 innate eHP,
A heavy machine gun (an instagib weapon),
And thousands of bullets?
That doesn't sound OP in any way...
Am i the only one that remembers how bad the F1 tanks were zipping around at super speeds being unkillable?
Was banned for fighting for logistics survival on 7/25/2014 02:11. Logistics will never be respected.
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Meee One
Hello Kitty Logistics
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Posted - 2014.08.19 10:25:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:Meee One wrote:Logi Bro wrote:A dev stated that they were taking a look at the minsent, and as a user of it, I wanted to throw out what gripes I have with the suit.
The biggest problem, in my opinion, is the speed. The Minmatar basic heavy frame is faster than the Minmatar Sentinel, in exchange for more armor. No other suit does this. The Gallente and Amarr heavy frames both get increased armor but keep the same speed when they make the jump to sentinel, so why not the Minmatar as well?
My other problem is the fact that the Minmatar Sentinel is armor centered. It has more highs than lows, a decent shield recharge rate, and a decent shield delay. All the base stats point towards it being a shield centered suit. (The Minmatar basic heavy frame has more shields than armor, I don't see why that would change when it goes to Sentinel)
In the event that the above paragraph made it into the game, I would also recommend that the resistance to blasters on armor be changed to resistance to blasters on shields. (You could say the same thing for the Amarr Sentinel)
TL;DR- Buff Minsent speed, flip shield/armor stats, change armor resistance to shield resistance. 1 kincat and a Minsent can OUTRUN my UNTANKED Minlogi. And of course if it can outrun the Minlogi,it can well catch up to and annihilate the other logis. HELL NO TO SPEED. First, a Minsent + one complex kinetic catalyzer doesn't outrun a Minlogi. To be exact, a Minsent with maxed core skills and a complex kincat sprints at 6.7m/s. The base speed before you consider any core skills on a Minlogi is 7m/s. Also, the speed buff that I was recommending to the Minsent was to bring it in line with the speed of the basic heavy frame. Even with that buff, it would only run at 6.95m/s with maxed core skills and one complex kincat. Still doesn't outrun the logi. Second, since when do we use the speed that logi's run as a balancing metric? I would argue that the one of the roles of the Minsent is to run down medium frames and destroy them. In that case, the Minsent needs an even bigger buff to speed than I recommended in the OP.
"logis should die even easier because they're logis"
Sentinels role has already been designated as point defense.
They are ment to chase other heavies and kill them with strong weapons,like let's say...the BURST HMG.
It's ridiculous that you think something so heavily tanked should move so fast.
Assaults are already breaking the rules as is,we don't need more like them.
Was banned for fighting for logistics survival on 7/25/2014 02:11. Logistics will never be respected.
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Meee One
Hello Kitty Logistics
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Posted - 2014.08.20 13:59:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:What "rules?"
The only rules assaults are breaking are the arbitrary ones in your head.
Sentinel role is "whatever dumbass thing I want to do in my sentinel suit." I like kicking in doors.
Minmatar go faster. Its what they do.
Logistics speed is also a thing being looked at by the CPM and devs.
The rules assaults break:
More shields = less shield regen
-see extenders,see sentinels,see scouts
More armor = less speed/ stamina regen
-see armor plates,see sentinels,see scouts
For the sake of giving assaults a buff in desperation,CCP has ignored all the rules they have set previously for tank Vs speed.
Assaults get both and suffer 0 penalties.
And yet logistics is the exact opposite.
Was banned for fighting for logistics survival on 7/25/2014 02:11. Logistics will never be respected.
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