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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.08.18 22:09:00 -
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Cenex Langly wrote:Tread Loudly 2 wrote:I swear tanking is the most looked down upon out of all the other specializations so I'm just curious why do ground units hate us so much?
Cost is roughly the same as a proto suit, but there are only 3 weapons (plus 1 grenade) that can hurt it. It has over 4,000 HP (on a ****** setup). So, you have 4 times the average HP as a proto suit, cost the same as a proto suit and you do 10x's more damage than any weapon in the game. Most (Missiles and rails) can one shot you. And to top it off, your speed is 2-3 times faster than any of the fastest scout. Plus, people can jump out of their armored vehicles when someone is trying to get close to it and mow them down with an HMG if they so desired. When you ask why people hate tanks, take into consideration the amount of overpowered advantage they provide. Then you can make a rational and logical assumption (or factual thought, your choice) as to the answer of your question.
What Proto Suits do you use?
My HAV Costs roughtly 600,000 ISK and my Proto Commando, being one of the most expensive suits in the game is roughly 230,000 ISK all up.
"We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.08.18 22:15:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Because even with a huge hp pool, outstanding firepower, better mobility than infantry, and practical invulnerability to most weapons tankers still whined and moaned to get buffed and our stuff nerfed
Thats why I dont like tank drivers at least You do not know history of SL if you speak such a BS(they were completely OP and disbalance). Been here since open beta, the non rendering swarms was a real issue yes but damn near everything else tankers complained about wasnt but they kept it up for more than half a year and CCP caved and Im sure we all know what happened when 2 of 3 viable AV measures got nerfed to hell
And in hind sight as one of those players who complained I can admit that I was wrong, all that need to change was slight Swarm alterations and the rendering issues.
As such it is my biggest regret that I short sightedly campaigned for HAV changes.....but even I could not expect what HAV would have become at that point....... loss of all turret types......loss of all module variation......loss of spider tanking.....Marauders....Enfocers......active tanking modules......meaningful cycles of opportunity...... loss of high ISK cost and meaningful SP tree........
I suffer every day because of this bullshit...... I just wish this game had never developed past 1.3..............
"We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.08.18 23:35:00 -
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843-Vika wrote:Tread Loudly 2 wrote:Cenex Langly wrote:Tread Loudly 2 wrote:I swear tanking is the most looked down upon out of all the other specializations so I'm just curious why do ground units hate us so much?
Cost is roughly the same as a proto suit, but there are only 3 weapons (plus 1 grenade) that can hurt it. It has over 4,000 HP (on a ****** setup). So, you have 4 times the average HP as a proto suit, cost the same as a proto suit and you do 10x's more damage than any weapon in the game. Most (Missiles and rails) can one shot you. And to top it off, your speed is 2-3 times faster than any of the fastest scout. Plus, people can jump out of their armored vehicles when someone is trying to get close to it and mow them down with an HMG if they so desired. When you ask why people hate tanks, take into consideration the amount of overpowered advantage they provide. Then you can make a rational and logical assumption (or factual thought, your choice) as to the answer of your question. There are suits that cost over 500,000 ISK? A tank can't run from a forge gun A tank can die by NK's PLC's FG's and swarms that is four not to mention the countless installations ^-^ Are you on crack? No tank costs 500k, the base model is 94k isk at most your looking at 200k tops A tank can out run any kind of av, its called using nitro, they cn out run everything with that. While it takes 3-4 people using v to kill you , it take 1 of you to kill everything it sees, and that is why everyone hates on tanks.
200 K ISK Hull
281 K ISK Turret
40K ISK Light Turrets
50-85- K ISK Modules
13 K ISK Suit to represent pilot suit.
= 584K ISK at least.
"We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.08.19 00:37:00 -
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RYN0CER0S wrote:Because 1 person can operate something with 10x the HP and 10x the DPS of any other fitting and travel 10x faster to retreat, find cover, or move to the next contested point.
4x the EHP of most assault suits now.... and more or less 3x that of the modern Heavy........ taking unfitted scout suits...... and suggesting this is true is utter garbage.
"We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.08.19 03:56:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:Atiim wrote:Zindorak wrote:when you are damaging them they run off like the cowards they are Said the ADS Pilot... we cant tank as much as madrugars. we have to sacrifice for hardners scanners and ABs.
And yet you guys are asking for HP buffs that would put you on par with HAV level EHP values......... with the ability to fly at 125m/s every 10 seconds........and destroy HAV and infantry alike......with the same fitting........
"We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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