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Thang Bausch Pierrot Le Fou Industries 212	Posted - 2014.08.19 01:27:00 - [31] - Quote bamboo x wrote: Thang Bausch wrote: Metroid? holy crap the hero is a woman, but wait she is still just a set of boobs. This right here disgusts me on so many levels I'm not even going to respond to it. I should've known the Dust forum was not a place to discuss QUALITY GAMES. Slow down, man! I think metroid has some fantastic games in its history. I'm just not convinced that they represent strong character development. The comment I made here is referring to the first metroid, where the ending reveals that the hero is actually a woman. That was ahead of its time, but they killed it by then showing that she's got a great body, which just fell back into the all so common stereotypes of video games. But this is just beside the point really because even if they had just left it as "the hero is a woman", I still wouldn't call that deep character development, even for that era. I would say the same for the other metroids I have played: great games that are very well designed in true nintendo glory, but I never saw strong character development. Now, I admittedly haven't played all of the metroids and have never completed any of them, so I may be missing something. In short, if you disagree, please explain. I'd love to hear your rationale.
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 942	Posted - 2014.08.19 01:33:00 - [32] - Quote Samus Aran is a God. That's her ***** character development. Depending on whether or not you choose to scan down all the lore in the Prime series, it gives not only Samus a deep sense of character but YOU a sense of BEING her character. The way she saved the entire Luminoth race in Echoes still sends chills down my spine. How the entire Galactic Federation was practically in awe at her presence, how she saved the entire *** human race through sheer will. In Metroid, the story is what makes Samus's character. You don't see her from a third person perspective, you ARE her. Eternal Beings** - #76 in All Time WP - #90 in All Time Kills. Member since day one, 10 months ago.
Thang Bausch Pierrot Le Fou Industries 212	Posted - 2014.08.19 01:35:00 - [33] - Quote bamboo x wrote: Ryme Intrinseca wrote: Says 'character development', lists games designed for eight year olds that are entirely populated with cardboard cut outs... boy you can go ** yourself, for real, you have NO idea what you are talking about i guaran ***** tee you most of the people who played Metroid Prime were teenagers and adults NOT kids, most of the people who played Donkey Kong Country Returns were ADULTS, and about half of the people who play Pokemon XY are young adults and teens, and adults have always loved Zelda And I'm pretty sure hating on Kirby is a mortal sin. Yes the beginners levels look childish, but as you continue playing the difficulty gets increasingly difficult. Adults definitely play them. Me and a number of friends that are all in the 30-45 year old range still play Nintendo. I hate the kiddie graphics at times, but I can't deny that Nintendo knows how to design a really fun game, so I keep playing them. My kids got a Wii for Xmas this year and I played Mario Galaxy for the first time. I lost count of the number of times I said out loud in amazement how brilliant the game concept and design are. AND, the kiddie graphics mean my 4 and 6 year old can watch me play it. First time in 20 years that the kiddie graphics didn't bother me.
Thang Bausch Pierrot Le Fou Industries 213	Posted - 2014.08.19 01:39:00 - [34] - Quote bamboo x wrote: Samus Aran is a God. That's her ***** character development. Depending on whether or not you choose to scan down all the lore in the Prime series, it gives not only Samus a deep sense of character but YOU a sense of BEING her character. The way she saved the entire Luminoth race in Echoes still sends chills down my spine. How the entire Galactic Federation was practically in awe at her presence, how she saved the entire ***** human race through sheer will. In Metroid, the story is what makes Samus's character. You don't see her from a third person perspective, you ARE her. I only played the first 20% of the first Prime, so I never got far enough in the series to see that. Sounds cool though.
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 942	Posted - 2014.08.19 01:40:00 - [35] - Quote Thang Bausch wrote: From what I hear, Last of Us is a good example of character development in video games. Fallout New Vegas had good Choose Your Own Adventure storyline. Nintendo does not compete with these, but it does consistently release really fun to play games that are very low on bugs, which is something to praise them for. Yeah but the Last of Us detracted way too much from the zombie aspect and made itself look way too much like Batman Arkham Asylum. The nail in the coffin for me was not being able to go back and play earlier levels with the flamethrower and all the upgraded weapons. Real disappointment. I wish I could've tried the online co op but I was only renting it and you need a pass code. They honestly could've included the story-related parts with humans and just added MORE ZOMBIE KILLING LEVELS in between. Like there was a huge opportunity in the Pittsburgh level for them to expand upon but they didn't. *Eternal Beings* - #76 in All Time WP - #90 in All Time Kills. Member since day one, 10 months ago.
843-Vika BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 231	Posted - 2014.08.19 01:44:00 - [36] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Here I thought the 4 way terminals in the city in destiney where trading terminals. I have been informed they're just decoration... They are Vault access terminals, but no one from dust can speak of not having player trading, since its 3 years and we still waiting on it here in dust,
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 942	Posted - 2014.08.19 01:44:00 - [37] - Quote Thang Bausch wrote: I only played the first 20% of the first Prime, so I never got far enough in the series to see that. Sounds cool though. I'm not going to lie that it will make shooter oriented gamers cringe, though. Locking on targets makes it easy mode sometimes. Although I heard if you buy the Trilogy pack, they added the Wii remote aiming mechanic to the first 2 games which would greatly improve the FPS aspect. In Metroid, it's more about dodging incoming damage and letting the Power Suit take care of telling you where to shoot. We can blame the Japanese for this... most of them get motion sickness from playing FPS. *Eternal Beings* - #76 in All Time WP - #90 in All Time Kills. Member since day one, 10 months ago.
Thang Bausch Pierrot Le Fou Industries 213	Posted - 2014.08.19 01:53:00 - [38] - Quote bamboo x wrote: Thang Bausch wrote: From what I hear, Last of Us is a good example of character development in video games. Fallout New Vegas had good Choose Your Own Adventure storyline. Nintendo does not compete with these, but it does consistently release really fun to play games that are very low on bugs, which is something to praise them for. Yeah but the Last of Us detracted way too much from the zombie aspect and made itself look way too much like Batman Arkham Asylum. The nail in the coffin for me was not being able to go back and play earlier levels with the flamethrower and all the upgraded weapons. Real disappointment. I wish I could've tried the online co op but I was only renting it and you need a pass code. They honestly could've included the story-related parts with humans and just added MORE ZOMBIE KILLING LEVELS in between. Like there was a huge opportunity in the Pittsburgh level for them to expand upon but they didn't. Haven't played it yet. Figure I'll pick it up cheap once I finally get around to buying a ps4 (might as well have the better graphics). Seems like they missed an opportunity for easy re-playability by not allowing people to replay some action scenes with upgraded weapons.
Vell0cet Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 2160	Posted - 2014.08.19 02:13:00 - [39] - Quote Defiance looks terrible... and that's coming from someone who likes DUST... In all seriousness though, people like different stuff. The cartoony style may really appeal to some people, and that's cool. It would suck if all games had the same look and feel. Lots of people love League of Legends and Hearthstone, and I don't personally see the appeal at all. That doesn't mean they're stupid, just that they have different taste than I do. I just hope CCP doesn't borrow anything from Defiance for Legion. Best PvE idea ever!
RogueTrooper 2000AD Neckbeard Absolution 213	Posted - 2014.08.19 02:18:00 - [40] - Quote bamboo x wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Cue the rich character development of Mario Kart. Don't even go there bro because I will smack your *** ass back to where it came from. Here's some rich character development for you: Zelda Metroid Pokemon Donkey Kong Kirby Fire Emblem Golden Sun (I need to play that... didn't know it was a nintendo franchise until just now) ***** Smash Bros. This is a list of games that you should play in order if you want to become so bored that you commit suicide. So tongue in cheek that my tongue is in your mouth.

JP Acuna Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 233	Posted - 2014.08.19 02:22:00 - [41] - Quote I dunno, i tried Defiance and it looks like cr@p. Horrible framerate in some areas, everything looks ugly and poorly designed... I'll give it another try but i really didn't like it the first time.
DarthMcFizzle MOOSE-KNUCKLEz CLAN 82	Posted - 2014.08.19 02:31:00 - [42] - Quote calvin b wrote: I quit Dust for Defiance. Why you ask. I will tell you. 1. Its a hell of lot more fun than Dust 2. Weapon Mods 3. PVE 4. Bigger battles. Not 16 vs 16 its as many as we can cram into it the battle. I have been in one battle where 40+ players where holding a point against an onslaught of enemies. Total enemies killed in battle was in the hundreds. 5. No stupid blueberries 6. People actually are playing 7. Side quest 8. Vehicle lock. Its yours no one can take it 9. I can drive a Mad MAXX style Charger 10. Actual hit detection Do I have to continue or do you get the point. The only reason I still come to forums is the hopes Dust someday becomes better than it is. Is it worth it to start now or are people that have been around for a while way stronger?
Reign Omega BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 785	Posted - 2014.08.19 02:41:00 - [43] - Quote bamboo x wrote: True Adamance wrote: Story wise no..... but hell it looks pretty, plays well, and has most if not all of the core content. that's because we don't know what the story is yet... derp... when it is revealed, i'm pretty sure the novelty of the story is directly proportional to how different it is from Mass Effect... and Halo for that matter. i don't even know the halo story lol... Ever watched Aliens? You now know the core of every sci fi shooter or movie ever of all time. A display of sucking that rivals the highest amount of sucking that a player has displayed in the history of sucking.-JR
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 943	Posted - 2014.08.19 03:20:00 - [44] - Quote Reign Omega wrote: Ever ~~watched Aliens~~ read Issac Asimov? You now know the core of every sci fi shooter or movie ever of all time. Fixed. *Eternal Beings* - #76 in All Time WP - #90 in All Time Kills. Member since day one, 10 months ago.
Death Shadow117 New Age Empire. General Tso's Alliance 295	Posted - 2014.08.19 03:26:00 - [45] - Quote bamboo x wrote: True Adamance wrote: Story wise no..... but hell it looks pretty, plays well, and has most if not all of the core content. that's because we don't know what the story is yet... derp... when it is revealed, i'm pretty sure the novelty of the story is directly proportional to how different it is from Mass Effect... and Halo for that matter. i don't even know the halo story lol... Recap of halo- so basically you have the covenant who.at first is trying to release an anchient power and master cheid has to stop them. Well he doesn't succeed and the flood (which is basically space zombies) are released. So now the covenant wants to destroy the flood with the 7 halo rings which form a giant weapon which stops the flood. Sounds good well wrong it stops thw flood by destroying its food source (if you haven't guessed it its sentient life). So master cheif destroys the first ring then proceedes to destroy 2/3 others. Tahts basically up until 3 which is the last part of the main story i played. If you couldn't tell the covenant have been at war with humanity for centuries now. Why?
TechMechMeds Level 5 Forum Warrior 5234	Posted - 2014.08.19 03:28:00 - [46] - Quote bamboo x wrote: Reign Omega wrote: Ever ~~watched Aliens~~ read Issac Asimov? You now know the core of every sci fi shooter or movie ever of all time. Fixed. Yes, the whole foundation series and some of the robot ones. I also love you now lol "Oh, look!, There's, uh, two women f ing a polar bear". "Don't tell me those things".
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 944	Posted - 2014.08.19 03:45:00 - [47] - Quote http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_fiction This is also worth a read. It's arguable that science fiction began with the cavemen paintings, in my opinion. *Eternal Beings* - #76 in All Time WP - #90 in All Time Kills. Member since day one, 10 months ago.
Zindorak 1.U.P 632	Posted - 2014.08.19 03:49:00 - [48] - Quote looks at the first 5 seconds of the video what the hell is this, why why was this made it looks like a piece of ** covered in and got regurgatated from an orangutan. What drives people to make ** games like this. Its ugly. I bet the person who had the idea was like "theres not a game called defiance, lemme fix that right now and make it look like a piece of **. Sorry for the rant but this is my honesty Pokemon master
Reign Omega BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 785	Posted - 2014.08.19 07:01:00 - [49] - Quote bamboo x wrote: Reign Omega wrote: Ever ~~watched Aliens~~ read Issac Asimov? You now know the core of every sci fi shooter or movie ever of all time. Fixed. More people have watched aliens, it's also considerably more recent. That's why I used it as a point of reference. I didn't say it was the genesis of space sci fi. A display of sucking that rivals the highest amount of sucking that a player has displayed in the history of sucking.-JR
TEBOW BAGGINS GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING 1167	Posted - 2014.08.19 07:44:00 - [50] - Quote story in online gaming is meh.. once you play through a story about 100 hours or much less then online game has to have something else besides story to make it mass appealing.. take SWTOR it's whole selling point was it was a story based MMO which was pretty fail.. they put too much stock into romancing an NPC and not enough into actual gameplay or meaningful PVP, by meaningful I mean a place that lures both carebear an PVPer some sort of special resource is collected in a PVP zone that drives an economy, not just some reward points to spend in a special PVP reward store.. scripted story in MMO is pretty pointless, story in all my gaming annoys me after Wing Commander 3 was about the last decent story imo.. i dont need bad voice acting which is the standard these days to drive my online gaming. AKA Zirzo Valcyn AFKing since 2012

calvin b Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 2156	Posted - 2014.08.19 08:17:00 - [51] - Quote DarthMcFizzle wrote: calvin b wrote: I quit Dust for Defiance. Why you ask. I will tell you. 1. Its a hell of lot more fun than Dust 2. Weapon Mods 3. PVE 4. Bigger battles. Not 16 vs 16 its as many as we can cram into it the battle. I have been in one battle where 40+ players where holding a point against an onslaught of enemies. Total enemies killed in battle was in the hundreds. 5. No stupid blueberries 6. People actually are playing 7. Side quest 8. Vehicle lock. Its yours no one can take it 9. I can drive a Mad MAXX style Charger 10. Actual hit detection Do I have to continue or do you get the point. The only reason I still come to forums is the hopes Dust someday becomes better than it is. Is it worth it to start now or are people that have been around for a while way stronger? Yes it is and I am at lvl 400 in 2 days. so try it, by what I heard it has been improved a lot Can the other voices in other peoples minds hear my voices in my head????
Chunky Munkey 5130	Posted - 2014.08.19 08:21:00 - [52] - Quote bamboo x wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Cue the rich character development of Mario Kart. Don't even go there bro because I will smack your *** ass back to where it came from. Here's some rich character development for you: Zelda Metroid Pokemon Donkey Kong Kirby Fire Emblem Golden Sun (I need to play that... didn't know it was a nintendo franchise until just now) ***** Smash Bros. The Last Of Us Your argument is invalid. Destiny won't kill Dust. CCP already did that.
Ryme Intrinseca Eurotrash Pubstars 1572	Posted - 2014.08.19 09:26:00 - [53] - Quote bamboo x wrote: Ryme Intrinseca wrote: Says 'character development', lists games designed for eight year olds that are entirely populated with cardboard cut outs... boy you can go ** yourself, for real, you have NO idea what you are talking about i guaran ***** tee you most of the people who played Metroid Prime were teenagers and adults NOT kids, most of the people who played Donkey Kong Country Returns were ADULTS, and about half of the people who play Pokemon XY are young adults and teens, and adults have always loved Zelda And I'm pretty sure hating on Kirby is a mortal sin. Yes the beginners levels look childish, but as you continue playing the difficulty gets increasingly difficult. I admit I was trolling a little bit, I played Metroid Prime as an adult. Still can't really believe that you'd put the likes of Donkey Kong forward as an example of character development. I simply don't believe character development is possible in side-scrolling platformers, they just scream 'These aren't even supposed to be real people!'. That also applies to the more 'mature' indie platformers for PC. Can't people just be happy to play for the gameplay without making out that a game with a kid with a head like a watermelon is some kind of cinematic masterpiece? /off topic rant
Ryme Intrinseca Eurotrash Pubstars 1572	Posted - 2014.08.19 09:27:00 - [54] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: bamboo x wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Cue the rich character development of Mario Kart. Don't even go there bro because I will smack your *** ass back to where it came from. Here's some rich character development for you: Zelda Metroid Pokemon Donkey Kong Kirby Fire Emblem Golden Sun (I need to play that... didn't know it was a nintendo franchise until just now) ***** Smash Bros. The Last Of Us Your argument is invalid. I watched Children of Men for the first time a couple of nights ago. Blatantly ripped off by TLoU. Like both of them though.


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