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Thang Bausch
Pierrot Le Fou Industries
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Posted - 2014.08.18 20:18:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:Onesimus Tarsus wrote:
Cue the rich character development of Mario Kart.
Don't even go there bro because I will smack your ***** ass back to where it came from. Here's some rich character development for you:
- Zelda
- Metroid
- Pokemon
- Donkey Kong
- Kirby
- Fire Emblem
- Golden Sun (I need to play that... didn't know it was a nintendo franchise until just now)
- ******* Smash Bros.
I'll agree that Nintendo is fantastic at game design (and your list proves that), but in depth character development I don't buy.
Zelda?
2 dimensional kid saving the princess yet again.
Metroid?
holy crap the hero is a woman, but wait she is still just a set of boobs.
Smash bros?
It's a tournament fight game.
From what I hear, Last of Us is a good example of character development in video games. Fallout New Vegas had good Choose Your Own Adventure storyline. Nintendo does not compete with these, but it does consistently release really fun to play games that are very low on bugs, which is something to praise them for.
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Thang Bausch
Pierrot Le Fou Industries
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Posted - 2014.08.19 01:27:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:Thang Bausch wrote:Metroid?
holy crap the hero is a woman, but wait she is still just a set of boobs.
This right here disgusts me on so many levels I'm not even going to respond to it. I should've known the Dust forum was not a place to discuss QUALITY GAMES.
Slow down, man! 
I think metroid has some fantastic games in its history. I'm just not convinced that they represent strong character development. The comment I made here is referring to the first metroid, where the ending reveals that the hero is actually a woman. That was ahead of its time, but they killed it by then showing that she's got a great body, which just fell back into the all so common stereotypes of video games. But this is just beside the point really because even if they had just left it as "the hero is a woman", I still wouldn't call that deep character development, even for that era.
I would say the same for the other metroids I have played: great games that are very well designed in true nintendo glory, but I never saw strong character development. Now, I admittedly haven't played all of the metroids and have never completed any of them, so I may be missing something.
In short, if you disagree, please explain. I'd love to hear your rationale.
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Thang Bausch
Pierrot Le Fou Industries
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Posted - 2014.08.19 01:35:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:Ryme Intrinseca wrote:
Says 'character development', lists games designed for eight year olds that are entirely populated with cardboard cut outs...
boy you can go **** yourself, for real, you have NO idea what you are talking about i guaran ******* tee you most of the people who played Metroid Prime were teenagers and adults NOT kids, most of the people who played Donkey Kong Country Returns were ADULTS, and about half of the people who play Pokemon XY are young adults and teens, and adults have always loved Zelda And I'm pretty sure hating on Kirby is a mortal sin. Yes the beginners levels look childish, but as you continue playing the difficulty gets increasingly difficult.
Adults definitely play them. Me and a number of friends that are all in the 30-45 year old range still play Nintendo. I hate the kiddie graphics at times, but I can't deny that Nintendo knows how to design a really fun game, so I keep playing them. My kids got a Wii for Xmas this year and I played Mario Galaxy for the first time. I lost count of the number of times I said out loud in amazement how brilliant the game concept and design are. AND, the kiddie graphics mean my 4 and 6 year old can watch me play it. First time in 20 years that the kiddie graphics didn't bother me. |
Thang Bausch
Pierrot Le Fou Industries
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Posted - 2014.08.19 01:39:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:Samus Aran is a God. That's her ******* character development.
Depending on whether or not you choose to scan down all the lore in the Prime series, it gives not only Samus a deep sense of character but YOU a sense of BEING her character.
The way she saved the entire Luminoth race in Echoes still sends chills down my spine. How the entire Galactic Federation was practically in awe at her presence, how she saved the entire ******* human race through sheer will.
In Metroid, the story is what makes Samus's character. You don't see her from a third person perspective, you ARE her.
I only played the first 20% of the first Prime, so I never got far enough in the series to see that. Sounds cool though.
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Thang Bausch
Pierrot Le Fou Industries
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Posted - 2014.08.19 01:53:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:Thang Bausch wrote:From what I hear, Last of Us is a good example of character development in video games. Fallout New Vegas had good Choose Your Own Adventure storyline. Nintendo does not compete with these, but it does consistently release really fun to play games that are very low on bugs, which is something to praise them for.
Yeah but the Last of Us detracted way too much from the zombie aspect and made itself look way too much like Batman Arkham Asylum. The nail in the coffin for me was not being able to go back and play earlier levels with the flamethrower and all the upgraded weapons. Real disappointment. I wish I could've tried the online co op but I was only renting it and you need a pass code. They honestly could've included the story-related parts with humans and just added MORE ZOMBIE KILLING LEVELS in between. Like there was a huge opportunity in the Pittsburgh level for them to expand upon but they didn't.
Haven't played it yet. Figure I'll pick it up cheap once I finally get around to buying a ps4 (might as well have the better graphics).
Seems like they missed an opportunity for easy re-playability by not allowing people to replay some action scenes with upgraded weapons.
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