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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:

ladwar wrote:

Cody Sietz wrote:

Himiko Kuronaga wrote:

richiesutie 2 wrote:

Stick two dmg mods on the lol op six kin burst hmg.

Have fun guys!

Lol assault buff what a joke.

Don't pick fights with heavies. You're not intended to win, and you won't win.

You can do things heavies cannot do. So when it comes to direct combat the heavy is intended to win every time. If you don't like that you can feel free to jump into a heavy suit and lose your other abilities.

I think my brain just broke.

Only abilities lost is jumping over small objects and a equipment slot. Thats fine since i can team up with one guy to drop enough for the whole team 4 the rest of the match, then he can join me in a fat suit. And dust is made so its most fat suit friendly so jumping is just for bunny hopping scouts. So what abilities am i missing again?

You have better scan, more versatility in your slot layout which allows for hybrid roles like easier dampening or hacking in addition to combat, you have equipment which allows you to help your team with uplink spam (highly important in a real match), and you have faster movement which allows you to transition from defense to attack when moving between points (This is the bread and butter of real competitive matches)

Whereas the heavy is generally a liability when transitioning unless he stacks kincats (thereby making him much worse in actual combat). You have a higher jump which gives you the ability to create shortcuts when planning a tactical retreat or chasing an enemy down. You have a better strafe which allows for peek-a-boo tactics the heavy is too big and too slow to use in the same manner, and when combined with a smaller hitbox allows you to be virtually 3 times more effective in long-range battles as small amounts of movement are all it takes to get out of your opponents crosshair and reduce his DPS to zero.

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richiesutie 2 The Rainbow Effect 912	Posted - 2014.08.15 22:10:00 - [1] - Quote Stick two dmg mods on the lol op six kin burst hmg. Have fun guys! Lol assault buff what a joke. compilation of Patch/build notes Check it out! :)
Newbs With Bewbs xx The Fairies xx 16	Posted - 2014.08.15 22:12:00 - [2] - Quote I'm a scout so don't mind been mowed down by any hmg but I'm seeing 1000+ HP assaults downed before they even react :) I am LHughes. Did you like your handjob?
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2085	Posted - 2014.08.15 22:14:00 - [3] - Quote richiesutie 2 wrote: Stick two dmg mods on the lol op six kin burst hmg. Have fun guys! Lol assault buff what a joke. Thats >1750 DPS lol "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ Give the Minja active dampening!--By Bor
richiesutie 2 The Rainbow Effect 912	Posted - 2014.08.15 22:15:00 - [4] - Quote Newbs With Bewbs wrote: I'm a scout so don't mind been mowed down by any hmg but I'm seeing 1000+ HP assaults downed before they even react :) Ive given up now So im puking cores and sh*ting boundless REs from roof tops XD <3 <3 <3 compilation of Patch/build notes Check it out! :)
RYN0CER0S Rise Of Old Dudes 1154	Posted - 2014.08.15 22:15:00 - [5] - Quote You have to let that distinct firing sound act as a warning, and intel as to his position. Back up and out-strafe the Bursts. But Yeah, they're legit Heavy busters. I don't always blap Infantry with a Forge Gun, but when I do, that ** is hilarious.
richiesutie 2 The Rainbow Effect 912	Posted - 2014.08.15 22:16:00 - [6] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: richiesutie 2 wrote: Stick two dmg mods on the lol op six kin burst hmg. Have fun guys! Lol assault buff what a joke. Thats >1750 DPS lol Nah i accounted for the 0.225sec burst delay compilation of Patch/build notes Check it out! :)
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 3463	Posted - 2014.08.15 22:29:00 - [7] - Quote 1821 hp damage per second. Well, that doesn't look friendly. Want ISK? I'm giving it away!
Newbs With Bewbs xx The Fairies xx 16	Posted - 2014.08.15 22:33:00 - [8] - Quote richiesutie 2 wrote: Newbs With Bewbs wrote: I'm a scout so don't mind been mowed down by any hmg but I'm seeing 1000+ HP assaults downed before they even react :) Ive given up now So im puking cores and sh*ting boundless REs from roof tops XD <3 <3 <3 I love you to much to insult you back, I am sorry if my gameplay isn't up to your high standards though <3 <3 <3 xxx I am LHughes. Did you like your handjob?
richiesutie 2 The Rainbow Effect 914	Posted - 2014.08.15 22:34:00 - [9] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: 1821 hp damage per second. Well, that doesn't look friendly. Protofits doesn't account for the burst interval i dont believe so it 1000 dps base with 2 dmg mods but not including the dmg pofile and proficiency compilation of Patch/build notes Check it out! :)
richiesutie 2 The Rainbow Effect 914	Posted - 2014.08.15 22:39:00 - [10] - Quote Newbs With Bewbs wrote: richiesutie 2 wrote: Newbs With Bewbs wrote: I'm a scout so don't mind been mowed down by any hmg but I'm seeing 1000+ HP assaults downed before they even react :) Ive given up now So im puking cores and sh*ting boundless REs from roof tops XD <3 <3 <3 I love you to much to insult you back, I am sorry if my gameplay isn't up to your high standards though <3 <3 <3 xxx That wasnt an insult im seriously doing that when ever i see a burst hmg. <3 <3 <3 xxx <3 <3 <3 xxx compilation of Patch/build notes Check it out! :)

Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 3466	Posted - 2014.08.16 00:54:00 - [11] - Quote RYN0CER0S wrote: You have to let that distinct firing sound act as a warning, and intel as to his position. Back up and out-strafe the Bursts. But Yeah, they're legit Heavy busters. Indeed. Just getting up some quick test footage. Want ISK? I'm giving it away!
Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 349	Posted - 2014.08.16 02:17:00 - [12] - Quote ScR (mexed+mando) have almost 1,5k dps vs shields. Ion cannon have also more. Nvm. NK scout OHK heavys. Caldari Loyalist Markiplier fan. Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4671	Posted - 2014.08.16 02:18:00 - [13] - Quote richiesutie 2 wrote: Stick two dmg mods on the lol op six kin burst hmg. Have fun guys! Lol assault buff what a joke. Don't pick fights with heavies. You're not intended to win, and you won't win. You can do things heavies cannot do. So when it comes to direct combat the heavy is intended to win every time. If you don't like that you can feel free to jump into a heavy suit and lose your other abilities.
Atiim Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 11454	Posted - 2014.08.16 02:18:00 - [14] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: ScR (mexed+mando) have almost 1,5k dps vs shields. Sure, if you use a Turbo Button. DUST 514's 1st Matari Commando -HAND
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 3385	Posted - 2014.08.16 02:49:00 - [15] - Quote I find that my NKs do enough damage in a fraction of a second. Why would I want to use a gun? You can always tell a Millford Minja
Cody Sietz Evzones 3842	Posted - 2014.08.16 02:55:00 - [16] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: richiesutie 2 wrote: Stick two dmg mods on the lol op six kin burst hmg. Have fun guys! Lol assault buff what a joke. Don't pick fights with heavies. You're not intended to win, and you won't win. You can do things heavies cannot do. So when it comes to direct combat the heavy is intended to win every time. If you don't like that you can feel free to jump into a heavy suit and lose your other abilities. I think my brain just broke. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
ladwar HEARTS OF PHOENIX 2038	Posted - 2014.08.16 03:05:00 - [17] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: richiesutie 2 wrote: Stick two dmg mods on the lol op six kin burst hmg. Have fun guys! Lol assault buff what a joke. Don't pick fights with heavies. You're not intended to win, and you won't win. You can do things heavies cannot do. So when it comes to direct combat the heavy is intended to win every time. If you don't like that you can feel free to jump into a heavy suit and lose your other abilities. I think my brain just broke. Only abilities lost is jumping over small objects and a equipment slot. Thats fine since i can team up with one guy to drop enough for the whole team 4 the rest of the match, then he can join me in a fat suit. And dust is made so its most fat suit friendly so jumping is just for bunny hopping scouts. So what abilities am i missing again? Level 2 Forum Warrior, bitter vet. I shall smite Thy Trolls with numbers and truth doing reviews in free time, want 1?
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 2126	Posted - 2014.08.16 03:15:00 - [18] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: richiesutie 2 wrote: Stick two dmg mods on the lol op six kin burst hmg. Have fun guys! Lol assault buff what a joke. Don't pick fights with heavies. You're not intended to win, and you won't win. You can do things heavies cannot do. So when it comes to direct combat the heavy is intended to win every time. If you don't like that you can feel free to jump into a heavy suit and lose your other abilities. I exclusively play heavy. I have always played heavy. I find your logic lacking and your premise asinine. Being heavy does not equal win entitlement.
Freccia di Lybra Maphia Clan Corporation 245	Posted - 2014.08.16 03:27:00 - [19] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: richiesutie 2 wrote: Stick two dmg mods on the lol op six kin burst hmg. Have fun guys! Lol assault buff what a joke. Don't pick fights with heavies. You're not intended to win, and you won't win. You can do things heavies cannot do. So when it comes to direct combat the heavy is intended to win every time. If you don't like that you can feel free to jump into a heavy suit and lose your other abilities. I exclusively play heavy. I have always played heavy. I find your logic lacking and your premise asinine. Being heavy does not equal win entitlement. So, if you should not pick fights with heavies...how does a heavy die? A heavy not only wins in direct combat, they will probably win when you get them from behind. The only effective way I found is : a) Remotes b) Plasma Cannon (not always) c) Shotgun (not always) Ei fu, xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 2129	Posted - 2014.08.16 03:52:00 - [20] - Quote Heavy should not be a win butan. On heavy cqc maps heavies hold an obvious advantage. Its cqc. On open maps I die whenever I use a sentinel due to all of the rifles outranging the HMG. You can back up shooting faster than heavies can advance.

ladwar HEARTS OF PHOENIX 2038	Posted - 2014.08.16 03:54:00 - [21] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Heavy should not be a win butan. On heavy cqc maps heavies hold an obvious advantage. Its cqc. On open maps I die whenever I use a sentinel due to all of the rifles outranging the HMG. You can back up shooting faster than heavies can advance. You can fit a rail on heavies you know Level 2 Forum Warrior, bitter vet. I shall smite Thy Trolls with numbers and truth doing reviews in free time, want 1?
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 2129	Posted - 2014.08.16 03:57:00 - [22] - Quote ladwar wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Heavy should not be a win butan. On heavy cqc maps heavies hold an obvious advantage. Its cqc. On open maps I die whenever I use a sentinel due to all of the rifles outranging the HMG. You can back up shooting faster than heavies can advance. You can fit a rail on heavies you know But you get a bonus to rails on Caldari Commandos. Putting a rail on a sentinel is like mounting a .22 rimfire machinegun on an M-1 abrams coaxial hardpoint. By the way, commandos cannot carry heavy weapons. And they LOOK a lot like sentinels. Did you know this?
Dust User KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 454	Posted - 2014.08.16 04:04:00 - [23] - Quote ladwar wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Heavy should not be a win butan. On heavy cqc maps heavies hold an obvious advantage. Its cqc. On open maps I die whenever I use a sentinel due to all of the rifles outranging the HMG. You can back up shooting faster than heavies can advance. You can fit a rail on heavies you know Not one of those heavies......
ladwar HEARTS OF PHOENIX 2038	Posted - 2014.08.16 04:13:00 - [24] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: ladwar wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Heavy should not be a win butan. On heavy cqc maps heavies hold an obvious advantage. Its cqc. On open maps I die whenever I use a sentinel due to all of the rifles outranging the HMG. You can back up shooting faster than heavies can advance. You can fit a rail on heavies you know But you get a bonus to rails on Caldari Commandos. Putting a rail on a sentinel is like mounting a .22 rimfire machinegun on an M-1 abrams coaxial hardpoint. By the way, commandos cannot carry heavy weapons. And they LOOK a lot like sentinels. Did you know this? Did you know scout look just light frames? So when you said sentinel you meant commandos and hmg you meant shotgun? If it works it works, till someone whinies hard enough to get it fixed that is Level 2 Forum Warrior, bitter vet. I shall smite Thy Trolls with numbers and truth doing reviews in free time, want 1?
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 2129	Posted - 2014.08.16 04:24:00 - [25] - Quote ladwar wrote: Did you know scout look just light frames? So when you said sentinel you meant commandos and hmg you meant shotgun? If it works it works, till someone whinies hard enough to get it fixed that is As much as scouts annoy the **** out of me, I'm not going to call for a nerf on the suits that can most consistently put a stop to fat rampages. Sentinel does not need to be the penultimate dropsuit. Commandos are more or less different-shaped assault suits now, and a viable alternative for heavies who don't want to spec into medium frames.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4675	Posted - 2014.08.16 05:27:00 - [26] - Quote ladwar wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: richiesutie 2 wrote: Stick two dmg mods on the lol op six kin burst hmg. Have fun guys! Lol assault buff what a joke. Don't pick fights with heavies. You're not intended to win, and you won't win. You can do things heavies cannot do. So when it comes to direct combat the heavy is intended to win every time. If you don't like that you can feel free to jump into a heavy suit and lose your other abilities. I think my brain just broke. Only abilities lost is jumping over small objects and a equipment slot. Thats fine since i can team up with one guy to drop enough for the whole team 4 the rest of the match, then he can join me in a fat suit. And dust is made so its most fat suit friendly so jumping is just for bunny hopping scouts. So what abilities am i missing again? You have better scan, more versatility in your slot layout which allows for hybrid roles like easier dampening or hacking in addition to combat, you have equipment which allows you to help your team with uplink spam (highly important in a real match), and you have faster movement which allows you to transition from defense to attack when moving between points (This is the bread and butter of real competitive matches) Whereas the heavy is generally a liability when transitioning unless he stacks kincats (thereby making him much worse in actual combat). You have a higher jump which gives you the ability to create shortcuts when planning a tactical retreat or chasing an enemy down. You have a better strafe which allows for peek-a-boo tactics the heavy is too big and too slow to use in the same manner, and when combined with a smaller hitbox allows you to be virtually 3 times more effective in long-range battles as small amounts of movement are all it takes to get out of your opponents crosshair and reduce his DPS to zero.
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 499	Posted - 2014.08.16 05:30:00 - [27] - Quote richiesutie 2 wrote: Stick two dmg mods on the lol op six kin burst hmg. Have fun guys! Lol assault buff what a joke. try 1326 dps in 1 Burst with out damage mods on a level 4 Burst HMG. so i can with moderate confidence say the 6kin will be terrifying at 1386 dps before damage mods (both numbers are assuming every bullet hits) PS. you RailRifle jockeys get to doing your job and kill those heavys from mid/long range where their bullets only tickle your shields [[LogiBro in Training]] Level 1 Forum Pariah
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 2134	Posted - 2014.08.16 06:11:00 - [28] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: richiesutie 2 wrote: Stick two dmg mods on the lol op six kin burst hmg. Have fun guys! Lol assault buff what a joke. try 1326 dps in 1 Burst with out damage mods on a level 4 Burst HMG. so i can with moderate confidence say the 6kin will be terrifying at 1386 dps before damage mods (both numbers are assuming every bullet hits) PS. you RailRifle jockeys get to doing your job and kill those heavys from mid/long range where their bullets only tickle your shields So much this. Rail rifles are my goddamn bane
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1145	Posted - 2014.08.16 07:46:00 - [29] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: ladwar wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Heavy should not be a win butan. On heavy cqc maps heavies hold an obvious advantage. Its cqc. On open maps I die whenever I use a sentinel due to all of the rifles outranging the HMG. You can back up shooting faster than heavies can advance. You can fit a rail on heavies you know But you get a bonus to rails on Caldari Commandos. Putting a rail on a sentinel is like mounting a .22 rimfire machinegun on an M-1 abrams coaxial hardpoint. By the way, commandos cannot carry heavy weapons. And they LOOK a lot like sentinels. Did you know this? scrub it up in a LAV fatboy. KEQ diplomat/ intel /GC officer
Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 356	Posted - 2014.08.16 10:12:00 - [30] - Quote You know whats the best way to kill any suit? Try to avoid that 20GJ Particle Cannon mounted on My Methana. Caldari Loyalist Markiplier fan. Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.

Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 2141	Posted - 2014.08.16 10:22:00 - [31] - Quote Why would I scrub up an LAV when the really fun killfeed **** comes from chucking a flux in a room full of red dots and going berserk? LAVs only get you idiot stragglers and random kills of convenience. Its really why the vehicle has a bumper, so I dont have to worry about random obstacles. Roadkill uses less ammo and doesnt interrupt my travel to charlie to kick in your door.
Bayeth Mal OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1146	Posted - 2014.08.16 11:36:00 - [32] - Quote RYN0CER0S wrote: You have to let that distinct firing sound act as a warning, and intel as to his position. Back up and out-strafe the Bursts. But Yeah, they're legit Heavy busters. +1 this man (I assume?) speaks the truth. The Burst HMG has always been a very quick way to kill. Way back in 1.4-1.5 I'd occasionally get 2 kills on the one bust (one red and the red behind him). They're very good in Heavy vs Heavy especially if using a Cal, Min or rep tanked Gallente. Popping in and out of cover as the Standard and Assault variants are sustained DPS weapons. Back pre-1.8 I'd throw some Kin-Cats and reppers on the lows and run around with it like a heavy shotgun. The problem was always managing the heat build up. When an HMG over heats you have all the time in the world to take them down, one time early on I rather embarrassingly had my HMG over heat on my last round, geez that took a long time. But I'm mainly a scout and so I do see this from a squishier perspective. But I don't really find the burst to be that huge a problem. Ignore these plebs, I'm sure they're also the assaults that complain about getting blapped by a forge in CQC. We'll bang, OK?
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 2145	Posted - 2014.08.16 11:47:00 - [33] - Quote If you get blapped by a forge in CQC you screwed up so hard you should suicide in a proto fitting in shame. Especially if you are a scout.
Newbs With Bewbs xx The Fairies xx 24	Posted - 2014.08.16 12:46:00 - [34] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: ladwar wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: richiesutie 2 wrote: Stick two dmg mods on the lol op six kin burst hmg. Have fun guys! Lol assault buff what a joke. Don't pick fights with heavies. You're not intended to win, and you won't win. You can do things heavies cannot do. So when it comes to direct combat the heavy is intended to win every time. If you don't like that you can feel free to jump into a heavy suit and lose your other abilities. I think my brain just broke. Only abilities lost is jumping over small objects and a equipment slot. Thats fine since i can team up with one guy to drop enough for the whole team 4 the rest of the match, then he can join me in a fat suit. And dust is made so its most fat suit friendly so jumping is just for bunny hopping scouts. So what abilities am i missing again? You have better scan, more versatility in your slot layout which allows for hybrid roles like easier dampening or hacking in addition to combat, you have equipment which allows you to help your team with uplink spam (highly important in a real match), and you have faster movement which allows you to transition from defense to attack when moving between points (This is the bread and butter of real competitive matches) Whereas the heavy is generally a liability when transitioning unless he stacks kincats (thereby making him much worse in actual combat). You have a higher jump which gives you the ability to create shortcuts when planning a tactical retreat or chasing an enemy down. You have a better strafe which allows for peek-a-boo tactics the heavy is too big and too slow to use in the same manner, and when combined with a smaller hitbox allows you to be virtually 3 times more effective in long-range battles as small amounts of movement are all it takes to get out of your opponents crosshair and reduce his DPS to zero. Which is why no good player ever use a heavy (unless to AV), it's made for the rubbish players to feel part off the game because they can actually get a kill. Wayyyyy more thought goes into scout play than stand and spray heavies. I am LHughes. Did you like your handjob?
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 2151	Posted - 2014.08.16 14:55:00 - [35] - Quote The above post is brought to you by... TROLLS! Now 30% more edgy and plausible. Buy one today!
ladwar HEARTS OF PHOENIX 2044	Posted - 2014.08.16 21:02:00 - [36] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: ladwar wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: richiesutie 2 wrote: Stick two dmg mods on the lol op six kin burst hmg. Have fun guys! Lol assault buff what a joke. Don't pick fights with heavies. You're not intended to win, and you won't win. You can do things heavies cannot do. So when it comes to direct combat the heavy is intended to win every time. If you don't like that you can feel free to jump into a heavy suit and lose your other abilities. I think my brain just broke. Only abilities lost is jumping over small objects and a equipment slot. Thats fine since i can team up with one guy to drop enough for the whole team 4 the rest of the match, then he can join me in a fat suit. And dust is made so its most fat suit friendly so jumping is just for bunny hopping scouts. So what abilities am i missing again? You have better scan, more versatility in your slot layout which allows for hybrid roles like easier dampening or hacking in addition to combat, you have equipment which allows you to help your team with uplink spam (highly important in a real match), and you have faster movement which allows you to transition from defense to attack when moving between points (This is the bread and butter of real competitive matches) Whereas the heavy is generally a liability when transitioning unless he stacks kincats (thereby making him much worse in actual combat). You have a higher jump which gives you the ability to create shortcuts when planning a tactical retreat or chasing an enemy down. You have a better strafe which allows for peek-a-boo tactics the heavy is too big and too slow to use in the same manner, and when combined with a smaller hitbox allows you to be virtually 3 times more effective in long-range battles as small amounts of movement are all it takes to get out of your opponents crosshair and reduce his DPS to zero. Heavies dont need ewar. If a ewar scout isnt packin nk and gets luck enough to get close enough and doesn't get killed by the other squadmates then he might score that one kill. As 4 equipment i already said one guy at the very start can give more then enough 4 the whole team 4 the rest of the match. As 4 getting to areas i have a lav 4 that so lost nothing gained hp and strongest weapons. Level 2 Forum Warrior, bitter vet. I shall smite Thy Trolls with numbers and truth doing reviews in free time, want 1?
Argetlam Thorson Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 96	Posted - 2014.08.16 23:04:00 - [37] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: If you get blapped by a forge in CQC you screwed up so hard you should suicide in a proto fitting in shame. Especially if you are a scout. Or...or...or, maybe, just maybe, the forge gunner is good. I killed people at close distance all day for the event. I especially liked the HMG users that would make it easy and stand still while shooting me, only to find themselves ending that fight with a giant hole in their chest. Youtube channel


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