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True Adamance wrote:

taxi bastard wrote:

what are you proposing? making the python easy mode for even those without skill or SP's?

i have a vehicle alt but i play alot of AV ( swarms, RE, AV grenades) on my main.

from my limited piloting of a ADS i can say i probably get something like 8-1 and the 1 is usually due to my newb flying. i never bothered trying to learn in a regular drop ship so yea its cost me more to get where i am than it should have ever done. saying that i have plenty of isk so meh it does not matter.

the problem with ADS is simple AB is the be all and end all of most peoples survival methods. get hit once....think about moving, twice move, 3rd time to go if you have not already. return when modals off cool down and repeat. unfortunatly this is the level of pilot i am and to be fair alot of pilots out there are not too much ahead of me. the good pilots use terrain instead of the AB and as a result can stay in combat alot longer. there are some amazing vids out there of some of them in action

the cool downs are way too short and the AB is far to strong. being a new pilot i should not live as long as i do and to be fair the only time ill generally die against AV is if i have had the warning yet still go back anyway. really in those situations you should just realize that you need to go play in a different part of the map.

i come from a uncommon school of thought that high level tanks and ADS should be seen as a corporate asset such as a carrier, dreadnought, titan and supper carrier in eve. their potential is huge and unbalances PUBS. keep them for PC and well you can balance them more effectively. there is no point screaming at the 16 people in the pubs most of which are on low SP's to get gud and use proto AV because your ADS is worth 500-600k as in most pubs you will be talking to atleast 9 players who are a long way from getting proto AV and could do with putting their SP's into countering their most common foe, infantry. the negative of going AV in anything bar a commando is that your putting yourself at extreme risk against infantry an is the cost worth the reward?

AV should be effective against vehicles - but i do thing that vehicles need to be reworked

Don't all/ most Null Sec player own their own carriers rather than use corp assets?

Either way that sound wonderful......... but unfortunately high level tanks/ any vehicle of the scale you are thinking of neither exist nor would be durable enough (Due to AVer bitching) to really be considered a valuable corporate asset.


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taxi bastard uptown456 Dark Taboo 201	Posted - 2014.08.13 03:54:00 - [1] - Quote what are you proposing? making the python easy mode for even those without skill or SP's? i have a vehicle alt but i play alot of AV ( swarms, RE, AV grenades) on my main. from my limited piloting of a ADS i can say i probably get something like 8-1 and the 1 is usually due to my newb flying. i never bothered trying to learn in a regular drop ship so yea its cost me more to get where i am than it should have ever done. saying that i have plenty of isk so meh it does not matter. the problem with ADS is simple AB is the be all and end all of most peoples survival methods. get hit once....think about moving, twice move, 3rd time to go if you have not already. return when modals off cool down and repeat. unfortunatly this is the level of pilot i am and to be fair alot of pilots out there are not too much ahead of me. the good pilots use terrain instead of the AB and as a result can stay in combat alot longer. there are some amazing vids out there of some of them in action the cool downs are way too short and the AB is far to strong. being a new pilot i should not live as long as i do and to be fair the only time ill generally die against AV is if i have had the warning yet still go back anyway. really in those situations you should just realize that you need to go play in a different part of the map. i come from a uncommon school of thought that high level tanks and ADS should be seen as a corporate asset such as a carrier, dreadnought, titan and supper carrier in eve. their potential is huge and unbalances PUBS. keep them for PC and well you can balance them more effectively. there is no point screaming at the 16 people in the pubs most of which are on low SP's to get gud and use proto AV because your ADS is worth 500-600k as in most pubs you will be talking to atleast 9 players who are a long way from getting proto AV and could do with putting their SP's into countering their most common foe, infantry. the negative of going AV in anything bar a commando is that your putting yourself at extreme risk against infantry an is the cost worth the reward? AV should be effective against vehicles - but i do thing that vehicles need to be reworked
taxi bastard uptown456 Dark Taboo 201	Posted - 2014.08.13 05:08:00 - [2] - Quote True Adamance wrote: taxi bastard wrote: what are you proposing? making the python easy mode for even those without skill or SP's? i have a vehicle alt but i play alot of AV ( swarms, RE, AV grenades) on my main. from my limited piloting of a ADS i can say i probably get something like 8-1 and the 1 is usually due to my newb flying. i never bothered trying to learn in a regular drop ship so yea its cost me more to get where i am than it should have ever done. saying that i have plenty of isk so meh it does not matter. the problem with ADS is simple AB is the be all and end all of most peoples survival methods. get hit once....think about moving, twice move, 3rd time to go if you have not already. return when modals off cool down and repeat. unfortunatly this is the level of pilot i am and to be fair alot of pilots out there are not too much ahead of me. the good pilots use terrain instead of the AB and as a result can stay in combat alot longer. there are some amazing vids out there of some of them in action the cool downs are way too short and the AB is far to strong. being a new pilot i should not live as long as i do and to be fair the only time ill generally die against AV is if i have had the warning yet still go back anyway. really in those situations you should just realize that you need to go play in a different part of the map. i come from a uncommon school of thought that high level tanks and ADS should be seen as a corporate asset such as a carrier, dreadnought, titan and supper carrier in eve. their potential is huge and unbalances PUBS. keep them for PC and well you can balance them more effectively. there is no point screaming at the 16 people in the pubs most of which are on low SP's to get gud and use proto AV because your ADS is worth 500-600k as in most pubs you will be talking to atleast 9 players who are a long way from getting proto AV and could do with putting their SP's into countering their most common foe, infantry. the negative of going AV in anything bar a commando is that your putting yourself at extreme risk against infantry an is the cost worth the reward? AV should be effective against vehicles - but i do thing that vehicles need to be reworked Don't all/ most Null Sec player own their own carriers rather than use corp assets? Either way that sound wonderful......... but unfortunately high level tanks/ any vehicle of the scale you are thinking of neither exist nor would be durable enough (Due to AVer bitching) to really be considered a valuable corporate asset. i own a carrier for ratting and one for triage in battles, truthfully lots of people cannot afford to loose them often in eve and big corps will pay for their piliots to keep in them. when i played i think it was 1-2 weeks of pure grind just to get one which had a decent fit.