DUST Search - After using the flaylock...

Mobius Kaethis wrote:

Ghost Kaisar wrote:

Meee One wrote:

The gun was pretty fun,the reload was smooth and the damage was nice...

But i noticed some very obvious drawbacks:
-The 'dumbfire' round explodes in mid flight for no apparent reason.
If the reason is fuel it should fly straight,then arc downward as gravity pulls it only exploding after it makes contact with a surface.
-The radius is only 1m even though the explosion animation completely covers a merc,meaning its direct hit or bust
-Dat breach variant does more damage but less radius,as expected....but with a 1m radius on the normal variant it seems redundant to need to directly hit a target with it when it's advantage should be radius.

Fixes:
-Remove the mid air exploding
-Increase radius on the normal variant to 3m.
-Increase damage of the breach variant

Are you crazy?

You know why the thing was nerfed in the first place right?

I agree. The large blast radius of the Flaylock is why it got nerfed into oblivion. It needs a mild buff and I fear that any radius increase would be too unbalancing.

Was banned for fighting for logistics survival on 7/25/2014 02:11. Logistics will never be respected.


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Meee One Hello Kitty Logistics 984	Posted - 2014.08.13 01:15:00 - [1] - Quote The gun was pretty fun,the reload was smooth and the damage was nice... But i noticed some very obvious drawbacks: -The 'dumbfire' round explodes in mid flight for no apparent reason. If the reason is fuel it should fly straight,then arc downward as gravity pulls it only exploding after it makes contact with a surface. -The radius is only 1m even though the explosion animation completely covers a merc,meaning its direct hit or bust -Dat breach variant does more damage but less radius,as expected....but with a 1m radius on the normal variant it seems redundant to need to directly hit a target with it when it's advantage should be radius. Fixes: -Remove the mid air exploding -Increase radius on the normal variant to 3m. -Increase damage of the breach variant Was banned for fighting for logistics survival on 7/25/2014 02:11. Logistics will never be respected.
Meee One Hello Kitty Logistics 988	Posted - 2014.08.13 13:13:00 - [2] - Quote ROMULUS H3X wrote: Mobius Kaethis wrote: I feel like the largest issue with the flaylock may be its potential damage per mag. Increasing it by just one would make it have a comparable damage per mag to the scrambler pistol, the only pistol which is currently worth a damn. Max out reload speed on the flaylock and the mag size doesn't really matter at all..... Flaylock> Scrambler Reason 1: Can cause damage to enemy AROUND corners before they reach you Reason 2: Causes full damage to vehicles, every AV suit SHOULD have a Flaylock, otherwise you are just jerking yourself Reason 3: It makes clones fly Reason 4: Quick and easy termination of equipment and clones bleeding out Reason 5: I like cake 48% damage to vehicles. The flaylock is shorted on ammo and range as well as radius yet the bolt pistol has range,ammo capacity,and even damage advantage. Increasing the radius by 1-2m on an EXPLOSIVE makes sense seeing how splash does 100+damage,it actually makes sense seeing that a force causing such high damage would create enough force for a small radius of explosion. 1+1=2 These aren't directed impact explosions like the breach variant,nor are they as hefty as a MD to increase its radius to such extremes. Currently the splash focused variant hits for .25m wider than the breach,no other weapon for any race has the breach even remotely close to the other variants. See:Breach MD vs regular,Breach FG vs regular,Breach AR vs regular. Was banned for fighting for logistics survival on 7/25/2014 02:11. Logistics will never be respected.
Meee One Hello Kitty Logistics 988	Posted - 2014.08.14 02:26:00 - [3] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: Meee One wrote: The gun was pretty fun,the reload was smooth and the damage was nice... But i noticed some very obvious drawbacks: -The 'dumbfire' round explodes in mid flight for no apparent reason. If the reason is fuel it should fly straight,then arc downward as gravity pulls it only exploding after it makes contact with a surface. -The radius is only 1m even though the explosion animation completely covers a merc,meaning its direct hit or bust -Dat breach variant does more damage but less radius,as expected....but with a 1m radius on the normal variant it seems redundant to need to directly hit a target with it when it's advantage should be radius. Fixes: -Remove the mid air exploding -Increase radius on the normal variant to 3m. -Increase damage of the breach variant did you test to see if the explosion would damage a player at the limits of the dumbfire range? to me it seems legit that it would blow after spending all its fuel if it wasnt triggered by contact No they don't. If it were smart fire the in-flight explosion would make sense to prevent it from being OP. See:Swarms But dumbfire has no such limitations.Nor an internal fuse. See:IRL tank bullets,or throw a rock Was banned for fighting for logistics survival on 7/25/2014 02:11. Logistics will never be respected.
Meee One Hello Kitty Logistics 989	Posted - 2014.08.14 06:06:00 - [4] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Meee One wrote: The gun was pretty fun,the reload was smooth and the damage was nice... But i noticed some very obvious drawbacks: -The 'dumbfire' round explodes in mid flight for no apparent reason. If the reason is fuel it should fly straight,then arc downward as gravity pulls it only exploding after it makes contact with a surface. -The radius is only 1m even though the explosion animation completely covers a merc,meaning its direct hit or bust -Dat breach variant does more damage but less radius,as expected....but with a 1m radius on the normal variant it seems redundant to need to directly hit a target with it when it's advantage should be radius. Fixes: -Remove the mid air exploding -Increase radius on the normal variant to 3m. -Increase damage of the breach variant Are you crazy? You know why the thing was nerfed in the first place right? I agree. The large blast radius of the Flaylock is why it got nerfed into oblivion. It needs a mild buff and I fear that any radius increase would be too unbalancing. Lol 'balance'. The flaylock is amusing to shoot and a good way to point out enemies,but other than that its just a firework launcher. Increasing damage won't help unless you CAN ACTUALLY HIT SOMETHING. Removing the mid-air explosion won't help unless you CAN ACTUALLY HIT SOMETHING. TBH the ONLY thing the flaylock needs is radius,considering you're FIRING A BOMB THAT CAN DO 100+ DAMAGE. It's a BOMB, it's SUPPOSED to be dangerous because of it's EXPLOSION. It's ISN'T supposed to play by projectile rules of needing to be dead on to do any damage. And since it ISN'T currently,it's just a cheaper crapier version of the bolt pistol! Was banned for fighting for logistics survival on 7/25/2014 02:11. Logistics will never be respected.
Meee One Hello Kitty Logistics 990	Posted - 2014.08.15 03:09:00 - [5] - Quote Bormir1r wrote: What flaylock needs ( I have prof. 2 in it): 1. Increase direct damage to make more viable against vehicles. 2. Increase and Make blast radius constant for all variants (1.75m) 3. Increase Clip Size by 1 or 2. These would work,i just find it insane the radius is only .25m more than the breach. It requires a direct shot,which does less damage... It makes me wonder why have 2 guns that have the same limitations? Yet one actually does better (breach). Was banned for fighting for logistics survival on 7/25/2014 02:11. Logistics will never be respected.