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Jaselyn Cabellos
Kitties of Doom
80
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Posted - 2014.08.12 18:17:00 -
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Simple, every team kill substracts 5-10 LP from your payout. If the person has been banned once before not only does it lower your standings but for the next team kill it subtracts 20 LP from your Payout. This way people wontbSynv and farm WP.
Empress of Caldari Rebellion.
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
3920
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Posted - 2014.08.12 19:17:00 -
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Needs to be steeper
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LASERS BTCH!!!!!!!
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Jaselyn Cabellos
Kitties of Doom
80
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Posted - 2014.08.12 19:26:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Needs to be steeper True, after the tripled LP payout. I wasn't advertising the stats, I was just advertising the idea of lower LP payouts. Although I agree with it being wayyyy steeper.
Empress of Caldari Rebellion.
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LudiKure ninda
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
103
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Posted - 2014.08.12 19:44:00 -
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For any tipe of team kill : 100 lp less per frendly kill and no salvage
Chasing FOTM since crome..
SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED
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Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1723
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Posted - 2014.08.12 20:11:00 -
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What about when someone kills you? I really feel like the best solution to team killing is simply setting team mates of the team killer attack the player in question without repercussion for a certain period of time.
Here is how my proposed mechanic would work:
1) Dusty McTeamkill murders a Scouty McHack while she is hacking a point.
2) Scouty McHack hits square on the bleed out screen punishing Dusty McTeamkill.
3) For 5 min a red skull appears next to Dusty McTeamkill's name when looked at by anyone on his team.
4) Scouty McHack and her squad find Dusty McTeamkill and repeatedly kill him for 5 min. (Thats what he gets)
5) Dusty McTeamkill is unable to use the punish button during the 5 min he has the teamkilling skull timer.
While I understand where the OP and the rest of you are coming from I really don't like the CCP driven nature of your solution. By making it so players have to deal with team killers they have much more ownership of the problem making it a more enjoyable part of the game. There would still be consequences but they would be much more player driven. Additionally my method allows for people to make mistakes without repercussions, assuming their team members know the team killing was accidental.
I realize my suggestion would also require a client side update though, and that this is not really in the cards for the short term.
Fun > Realism
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Malleus Malificorum
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
48
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Posted - 2014.08.12 20:46:00 -
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Being a frequent FW player: Teamkills happen, sometimes unintentionally it's usually best just to ignore them and move on as dedicated awoxers *always* get themselves kicked. However, there are also a few reasons that one actually *should* teamkill, If you start shooting me for no reason right at the start of the game you will get a breach scrambler pistol to the head and then another to terminate you, If you get in one of my vehicles and refuse to get out you will be shot out, though those are generally the only two situations you'll be killed by me.
There are also situations where you can 'teamkill' and yet have no control over it should we be punished for it? - a lot of people that I run with set up remote + proxy traps to deal with tanks, occasionally we have ****wit blues run over and stand on the mines then shoot them causing us to 'teamkill' when we had no influence over it. Sometimes even a well placed orbital can teamkill. It's also possible that if you do a tiny amount of damage to an LAV and they do something like drive into a tank you'll see a message like 'Malleus Malificorum (commited suicide) [Stupidblueberry]". Should we be punished for this as well?
I'd like to see higher standings loss when fighting for enemies, but honestly awoxing/teamkilling isn't a problem and it almost needs more permissive and flexible settings to avoid being kicked. Most of the time anyone gets kicked is from an OB that a pilot might have been late in calling. The only other time I've seen people get kicked for being idiotic was when some guy was trying to forge a friendly tank because the tank did something he didn't like. |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
12807
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Posted - 2014.08.12 20:50:00 -
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Mobius Kaethis wrote:What about when someone kills you? I really feel like the best solution to team killing is simply setting team mates of the team killer attack the player in question without repercussion for a certain period of time.
Here is how my proposed mechanic would work:
1) Dusty McTeamkill murders a Scouty McHack while she is hacking a point.
2) Scouty McHack hits square on the bleed out screen punishing Dusty McTeamkill.
3) For 5 min a red skull appears next to Dusty McTeamkill's name when looked at by anyone on his team.
4) Scouty McHack and her squad find Dusty McTeamkill and repeatedly kill him for 5 min. (Thats what he gets)
5) Dusty McTeamkill is unable to use the punish button during the 5 min he has the teamkilling skull timer.
While I understand where the OP and the rest of you are coming from I really don't like the CCP driven nature of your solution. By making it so players have to deal with team killers they have much more ownership of the problem making it a more enjoyable part of the game. There would still be consequences but they would be much more player driven. Additionally my method allows for people to make mistakes without repercussions, assuming their team members know the team killing was accidental.
I realize my suggestion would also require a client side update though, and that this is not really in the cards for the short term.
You just know the goons would exploit that. Q-Sync 15 men into a match, and repeatedly gank the one poor blue berry.
"We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
16798
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Posted - 2014.08.12 21:10:00 -
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LudiKure ninda wrote:For any tipe of team kill : 100 lp less per frendly kill and no salvage I'm not sure immediately saying 'No salvage at all' is fair. Sometimes accidents happen.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Enlist in XCOM
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
12807
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Posted - 2014.08.12 21:11:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:LudiKure ninda wrote:For any tipe of team kill : 100 lp less per frendly kill and no salvage I'm not sure immediately saying 'No salvage at all' is fair. Sometimes accidents happen.
Being an HAV pilot I concur....people love to wander through my lines of fire.
"We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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Zindorak
1.U.P
599
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Posted - 2014.08.13 01:17:00 -
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I only team kill/ troll when my team is losing. and when someone is hacking a poing i will shoot a little to stop hacking then i go in to get the hack instead of a measly assist
Pokemon master
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Jaselyn Cabellos
Kitties of Doom
80
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Posted - 2014.08.13 01:19:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:I only team kill/ troll when my team is losing. and when someone is hacking a poing i will shoot a little to stop hacking then i go in to get the hack instead of a measly assist You're the kind of people I team kill. Because that **** is selfish and makes you look like an ass.
Empress of Caldari Rebellion.
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Zindorak
1.U.P
599
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Posted - 2014.08.13 01:22:00 -
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Jaselyn Cabellos wrote:Zindorak wrote:I only team kill/ troll when my team is losing. and when someone is hacking a poing i will shoot a little to stop hacking then i go in to get the hack instead of a measly assist You're the kind of people I team kill. Because that **** is selfish and makes you look like an ass. lololol i don't do it to everyone
Pokemon master
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Hakyou Brutor
Pure Evil.
997
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Posted - 2014.08.13 01:23:00 -
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Teamkilling is a part of what makes FW different from pubs.
As general rules: Don't run proto in FW (unless you're rich, like myself)
If you don't want to be teamkilled don't team kill
Don't hack CRUs when people (tryhards, like myself) are camping it
Under no circumstances, ever, never ever in all your life, run Officer gear in FW (it attracts troll, unlike myself)
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1830
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Posted - 2014.08.13 01:25:00 -
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The penalty is already too steep for my tastes (and for CCP imo).
-450 standing (which comes to 6 wins or about 2 hours of playing at best) for every kick, whether accidental or not. And that's for only 2 TKs. |
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