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Rusty Shallows
Caldari State
2021
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Posted - 2014.08.26 02:02:00 -
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In answer to Post #1
- Classic Logi Bro alternating with a Combat Engineer fit on Minmatar after Logistics
- No suggestions to equipment
- Effectiveness when measured in a support role can be tricky. My biggest concern is the aforementioned concerns others already shared about survivability.
I don't think it has any bearing with the following but the instructions were pretty clear.
My two cents on this is after whatever changes are purposed a Smell Test is conducted. A review.
- Start with a theoretical character with perfect fives in all skills.
- Select the same Faction's Assault and Logistics Frame of each tier.
- Fit them the same way with two exceptions: Assault still has a Side Arm and the Logistics with only one Equipment.
- Side-by-side compare the stat lines in a series of Thought Experiments.
While the basics of damage, tanking, and mobility are easier to compare some serious attention needs to be applied the value of the "other" values (sensory stats, regen stats, stanima stats, etc). The game fundamentals have changed a lot with bonuses and weapons since the days of there being only one Assault, Logistics, Scout, and Heavy. It's past time to review these differences and how they balance-out/relate.
TL;DR After doing complex changes unto a Logistic pause to do a comparison review against an equivalent Assault.
I have a lot of respect for Classic Logis. New Eden could use more Healers.
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Rusty Shallows
Caldari State
2032
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Posted - 2014.08.28 00:51:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:Again,
Those bonuses were just IDEAS, I never said that they were balanced by any means or that that's how it should be set up.
I just think it would be cool to have each logi focused on one type of playstyle rather than every logi getting similar bonuses. Giving every suit a bonus to repair tools would be like giving every assault a reduction in heat buildup for the scrambler rifle, or every sentinel suit a reduction to projectile damage.
Just because it's the most desired/useful bonus doesn't mean every suit should get it.
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Opinions? I'd like to see your idea for what the bonuses should be (bonuses towards equipment efficacy though, nothing like more nanohives being able to be carried or deployed...those kinds of bonuses would not be easily balanced) _______________________________________________________________________________
snip My opinion is the same as it was when equipment bonus were first fully revealed. A Universal Bonus towards equipment so none would ever suck using equipment combined with Unique Bonus to set each Faction's Frames apart.
That way the Devs can make a decisions on how useful gear needs to be for non-Logis and set that as the minimum. Then treat the unique bonuses as cake. That way equipment numbers can be more easily fiddled with while not pidgin-holing one Frame and nerfing three of the other Logis at the same time.
The added bonus is if a certain level of expected usefulness can be determined it becomes easier to tackle the question of Support-vs-Combat and where the stat line needs to be.
Side Note: My apologies for parroting some of what has already been said. I'm trying to lay it out in a different context.
I have a lot of respect for Classic Logis. New Eden could use more Healers.
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Rusty Shallows
Caldari State
2060
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Posted - 2014.08.30 23:01:00 -
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el OPERATOR wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:What is everyone's opinions on the buff to nanite injectors proposed for Delta?
The same amount of shield replenished as armor? Sounds freaking awesome. Has that been posted somewhere as being a part of delta or is that forum ether theory?
Early "Narrative" option for Delta.
And yes, very awesome indeed. Camping people on the ground was too easy. All the more trolltastic if you timed your fire to kill the hero with the needle as well. I was guilty of that.
I have a lot of respect for Classic Logis. New Eden could use more Healers.
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