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Topher Mellen
Scott-Mellen Corporation
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Posted - 2014.08.10 16:25:00 -
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Check out the fit here: -- link --
I got a lot of really good feed back from my last fitting thread and I came up with something a little better I think. Let me know what you think? If it's crap, let me know what I should change. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
16499
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Posted - 2014.08.10 16:46:00 -
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I'm a little curious as to why you use the current assault fittings. All of them are about to get really shaken up soon, so why not discuss the Charlie fittings?
Anyway, if that's for 'patrolling' I don't think it's fast enough. By patrolling, though, what do you mean? A mobile unit going between objectives, or just wandering around in the general vicinity of an objective?
I think your fit is too slow.
You're using short ranged weaponry, but you have nothing to help you get in range. I highly recommend a kincat in place of the enhanced plates.
Depending on your playstyle and if you can actually fit kincats, you might consider a second complex rep instead of those enhanced plates. You can get the fitting resources required by downgrading one of the damage mods to an enhanced one, for a minimal difference in damage.
Also, basic locus grenades aren't very good. I recommend a flux, if you must use a standard grenade. The ion pistol is also... Not very good. SMG is better.
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Cody Sietz
SVER True Blood
Dark Taboo
3809
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Posted - 2014.08.10 17:02:00 -
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I'm not sure how wanna patrol, but I have this fit.
It's a little faster, you rep more but you have less ehp.
http://www.protofits.com/fittings/index/0/6373
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
16502
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Posted - 2014.08.10 17:04:00 -
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This is very similar to what I use atm.
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JRleo jr
Xer Cloud Consortium
332
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Posted - 2014.08.10 17:06:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I'm a little curious as to why you use the current assault fittings. All of them are about to get really shaken up soon, so why not discuss the Charlie fittings?
Anyway, if that's for 'patrolling' I don't think it's fast enough. By patrolling, though, what do you mean? A mobile unit going between objectives, or just wandering around in the general vicinity of an objective?
I think your fit is too slow.
You're using short ranged weaponry, but you have nothing to help you get in range. I highly recommend a kincat in place of the enhanced plates.
Depending on your playstyle and if you can actually fit kincats, you might consider a second complex rep instead of those enhanced plates. You can get the fitting resources required by downgrading one of the damage mods to an enhanced one, for a minimal difference in damage.
Also, basic locus grenades aren't very good. I recommend a flux, if you must use a standard grenade. The ion pistol is also... Not very good. SMG is better.
Kincats won't help you in combat so using them on armor tankers is pointless.
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
393
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Posted - 2014.08.10 17:09:00 -
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Topher Mellen wrote:Check out the fit here: -- link --The Hotfix Charlie damage mods are there to act as place holders for the current damage mods. I got a lot of really good feed back from my last fitting thread and I came up with something a little better I think. Let me know what you think. If it's crap, let me know what I should change. edit: punctuation
in its current state ion pistol damn well sucks. everything else looks ok save the presision enhancer which wont pick up scouts just other med suits which may have smaller sig or running damps
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Cody Sietz
SVER True Blood
Dark Taboo
3809
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Posted - 2014.08.10 17:10:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:This is very similar to what I use atm.
Yeah, I use this as well but sometimes swap the enhanced plate for a extra FS or a complex reactive.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
7123
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Posted - 2014.08.10 17:19:00 -
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JRleo jr wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I'm a little curious as to why you use the current assault fittings. All of them are about to get really shaken up soon, so why not discuss the Charlie fittings?
Anyway, if that's for 'patrolling' I don't think it's fast enough. By patrolling, though, what do you mean? A mobile unit going between objectives, or just wandering around in the general vicinity of an objective?
I think your fit is too slow.
You're using short ranged weaponry, but you have nothing to help you get in range. I highly recommend a kincat in place of the enhanced plates.
Depending on your playstyle and if you can actually fit kincats, you might consider a second complex rep instead of those enhanced plates. You can get the fitting resources required by downgrading one of the damage mods to an enhanced one, for a minimal difference in damage.
Also, basic locus grenades aren't very good. I recommend a flux, if you must use a standard grenade. The ion pistol is also... Not very good. SMG is better. Kincats won't help you in combat so using them on armor tankers is pointless.
Dude....Are you new here or something?
Kincats will most definietly help a Gallente suit. What good is a CQC fighter if it can't close the distance?
Perhaps you are under the idea that all armor tankers are slow?
This is not true.
In terms of how a typical person would fit their ship in EVE the fastest to slowest Race.
Minmatar
Gallente
Caldari
Amarr.
Do not be confused by the ignorant plebs on the forums that assume all shield tankers must be fast.
In terms of tanking Caldari is the Amarr of shields but you must remember shield values are usually less than armor values.
I will say though that Caldari could probably use some more shielding on their suits built in at the expense of Recharge and speed. I'd love to see shields as a reliable measure of tanking.
But more importantly I'd just love to melt away more shields.
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
3882
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Posted - 2014.08.10 17:53:00 -
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Needs more repair mods you should just use reactive plates instead imo
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JRleo jr
Xer Cloud Consortium
351
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Posted - 2014.08.10 18:13:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:JRleo jr wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I'm a little curious as to why you use the current assault fittings. All of them are about to get really shaken up soon, so why not discuss the Charlie fittings?
Anyway, if that's for 'patrolling' I don't think it's fast enough. By patrolling, though, what do you mean? A mobile unit going between objectives, or just wandering around in the general vicinity of an objective?
I think your fit is too slow.
You're using short ranged weaponry, but you have nothing to help you get in range. I highly recommend a kincat in place of the enhanced plates.
Depending on your playstyle and if you can actually fit kincats, you might consider a second complex rep instead of those enhanced plates. You can get the fitting resources required by downgrading one of the damage mods to an enhanced one, for a minimal difference in damage.
Also, basic locus grenades aren't very good. I recommend a flux, if you must use a standard grenade. The ion pistol is also... Not very good. SMG is better. Kincats won't help you in combat so using them on armor tankers is pointless. Dude....Are you new here or something? Kincats will most definietly help a Gallente suit. What good is a CQC fighter if it can't close the distance? Perhaps you are under the idea that all armor tankers are slow? This is not true. In terms of how a typical person would fit their ship in EVE the fastest to slowest Race. Minmatar Gallente Caldari Amarr. Do not be confused by the ignorant plebs on the forums that assume all shield tankers must be fast. In terms of tanking Caldari is the Amarr of shields but you must remember shield values are usually less than armor values. I will say though that Caldari could probably use some more shielding on their suits built in at the expense of Recharge delay NOPE and speed TOO FUNNY I'd love to see shields as a reliable measure of tanking. But more importantly I'd just love to melt away more shields.
You do realize kincats are pointless for many reasons?
1. They cut in tank or regen
2. Most of the time people are not that far from another in a fight nor is sprinting around 1 m/s faster going to get you a kill
Need I go on? And this is gallente, and in a competitive environment there really is no point, you need the hp and regen, nor will your sprinting save you, I've used scouts so it doesn't work alot.
Btw, shields need to draw more power so engines don't allow you to go faster, dust is different.
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Dj grammer
New Age Empire.
General Tso's Alliance
316
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Posted - 2014.08.10 18:22:00 -
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Topher Mellen wrote:Check out the fit here: -- link --The Hotfix Charlie damage mods are there to act as place holders for the current damage mods. I got a lot of really good feed back from my last fitting thread and I came up with something a little better I think. Let me know what you think. If it's crap, let me know what I should change. edit: punctuation
My example fit for the gk.0 assaults. On a personal point of view I am going Minmatar. I already have prototype Min Logistics with maxed out (my point of maxed out) dropsuit upgrades, might as well save time and sp when it comes to picking an assault suit. Thant and I'm used to the Minmatar's playstyle.
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JRleo jr
Xer Cloud Consortium
353
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Posted - 2014.08.10 18:26:00 -
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Dj grammer wrote:Topher Mellen wrote:Check out the fit here: -- link --The Hotfix Charlie damage mods are there to act as place holders for the current damage mods. I got a lot of really good feed back from my last fitting thread and I came up with something a little better I think. Let me know what you think. If it's crap, let me know what I should change. edit: punctuation My example fit for the gk.0 assaults. On a personal point of view I am going Minmatar. I already have prototype Min Logistics with maxed out (my point of maxed out) dropsuit upgrades, might as well save time and sp when it comes to picking an assault suit. Thant and I'm used to the Minmatar's playstyle.
Why do people fittings suck so bad for combat?
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
16541
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Posted - 2014.08.10 18:33:00 -
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JRleo jr wrote:
You do realize kincats are pointless for many reasons?
1. They cut in tank or regen
2. Most of the time people are not that far from another in a fight nor is sprinting around 1 m/s faster going to get you a kill
Once you have a baseline level of tank, you can make do with that and use utility modules like kincats. Of course, that's assuming you're actually capable of surviving without stacking as much HP as you possibly can. I imagine your inability to do that is where the confusion stems from.
Being able to move faster is hugely useful, especially when using short-ranged weaponry.
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Need I go on? And this is gallente, and in a competitive environment there really is no point, you need the hp and regen, nor will your sprinting save you, I've used scouts so it doesn't work alot.
Speaking of 'competitive environments', have you ever actually used a Galassault in PC? Kirk has. Much more than you, if you've done it at all.
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Btw, shields need to draw more power so engines don't allow you to go faster, dust is different.
No... Shields have never slowed anyone down either in DUST or in EVE.
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Dj grammer
New Age Empire.
General Tso's Alliance
316
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Posted - 2014.08.10 18:35:00 -
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JRleo jr wrote:Dj grammer wrote:Topher Mellen wrote:Check out the fit here: -- link --The Hotfix Charlie damage mods are there to act as place holders for the current damage mods. I got a lot of really good feed back from my last fitting thread and I came up with something a little better I think. Let me know what you think. If it's crap, let me know what I should change. edit: punctuation My example fit for the gk.0 assaults. On a personal point of view I am going Minmatar. I already have prototype Min Logistics with maxed out (my point of maxed out) dropsuit upgrades, might as well save time and sp when it comes to picking an assault suit. Thant and I'm used to the Minmatar's playstyle. Why do people fittings suck so bad for combat?
I'm sorry that this was not the build for YOUR expectation. I was giving mine to see what others thought. Since you thought on a negative pov what would your fitting be?
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
1864
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Posted - 2014.08.10 18:37:00 -
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You do realize kincats are pointless for many reasons?
I disagree. You're on the EHP > ALL bandwagon and it's flat WRONG
1. They cut in tank or regen
And they allow you the edge to escape TO regen, or to drop onto an enemy from an unexpected angle to flank while your slow buddies distract.
2. Most of the time people are not that far from another in a fight nor is sprinting around 1 m/s faster going to get you a kill
It can give you the edge you need to get the hell out and recover/reload/rearm/repair. I utilize biotics on my minmatar fatsuits just for that reason, to catch a breather. And it works. then when they've been re-engaged by allies... HMG IN THE BACK! |
JRleo jr
Xer Cloud Consortium
369
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Posted - 2014.08.10 18:43:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:
You do realize kincats are pointless for many reasons?
I disagree. You're on the EHP > ALL bandwagon and it's flat WRONG
1. They cut in tank or regen
And they allow you the edge to escape TO regen, or to drop onto an enemy from an unexpected angle to flank while your slow buddies distract.
2. Most of the time people are not that far from another in a fight nor is sprinting around 1 m/s faster going to get you a kill
It can give you the edge you need to get the hell out and recover/reload/rearm/repair. I utilize biotics on my minmatar fatsuits just for that reason, to catch a breather. And it works. then when they've been re-engaged by allies... HMG IN THE BACK!
Enjoy your suit not suited for combat (see what I did there?)
In a combat situation 1v1 say behind cover or just 1v1, sprinting slightly faster isn't going to help you, nor has any opponent gotten an edge on me or fled.
I can have 700 armor and 20 hp/s repair, kincats are viable around adv level on scouts, that I know for aure.
Oh and I can do all the things you listed without a single biotic mod, simply because I don't stack 4 armor plates.
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Dj grammer
New Age Empire.
General Tso's Alliance
316
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Posted - 2014.08.10 19:18:00 -
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just put the link here and show us your ideal fit instead of talking about it.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
1871
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Posted - 2014.08.10 19:19:00 -
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JRleo jr wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:
You do realize kincats are pointless for many reasons?
I disagree. You're on the EHP > ALL bandwagon and it's flat WRONG
1. They cut in tank or regen
And they allow you the edge to escape TO regen, or to drop onto an enemy from an unexpected angle to flank while your slow buddies distract.
2. Most of the time people are not that far from another in a fight nor is sprinting around 1 m/s faster going to get you a kill
It can give you the edge you need to get the hell out and recover/reload/rearm/repair. I utilize biotics on my minmatar fatsuits just for that reason, to catch a breather. And it works. then when they've been re-engaged by allies... HMG IN THE BACK!
Enjoy your suit not suited for combat (see what I did there?) In a combat situation 1v1 say behind cover or just 1v1, sprinting slightly faster isn't going to help you, nor has any opponent gotten an edge on me or fled. I can have 700 armor and 20 hp/s repair, I can move at a decent speed, kincats are viable around adv level on scouts, that I know for sure. Oh I can and do all the things you listed without a single biotic mod, simply because I don't stack 4 armor plates. So please, oh great and powerful biotic master, please tell me how beneficial gaining slight sprinting speed is during a strafe or repping behind cover or shooting from cover.
I use biotics on a fatsuit to make it go fasta. You tell me. Dozens of people HMG'd and Mass Driver'd (commando!) last night Can't be wrong! And if it is... I don't wanna be right! |
JRleo jr
Xer Cloud Consortium
377
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Posted - 2014.08.10 19:21:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:JRleo jr wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:
You do realize kincats are pointless for many reasons?
I disagree. You're on the EHP > ALL bandwagon and it's flat WRONG
1. They cut in tank or regen
And they allow you the edge to escape TO regen, or to drop onto an enemy from an unexpected angle to flank while your slow buddies distract.
2. Most of the time people are not that far from another in a fight nor is sprinting around 1 m/s faster going to get you a kill
It can give you the edge you need to get the hell out and recover/reload/rearm/repair. I utilize biotics on my minmatar fatsuits just for that reason, to catch a breather. And it works. then when they've been re-engaged by allies... HMG IN THE BACK!
Enjoy your suit not suited for combat (see what I did there?) In a combat situation 1v1 say behind cover or just 1v1, sprinting slightly faster isn't going to help you, nor has any opponent gotten an edge on me or fled. I can have 700 armor and 20 hp/s repair, I can move at a decent speed, kincats are viable around adv level on scouts, that I know for sure. Oh I can and do all the things you listed without a single biotic mod, simply because I don't stack 4 armor plates. So please, oh great and powerful biotic master, please tell me how beneficial gaining slight sprinting speed is during a strafe or repping behind cover or shooting from cover. I use biotics on a fatsuit to make it go fasta. You tell me. Dozens of people HMG'd and Mass Driver'd (commando!) last night Can't be wrong! And if it is... I don't wanna be right!
On a min fatsuit, maybe, for a gal assault? No
Here's one I made, assuming the ar gets better and ammo is not an issue
http://pinkie.ponychan.net/chan/files/src/139691554645.jpg
Um, I meant this. http://www.protofits.com/fittings/view/138/5875
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Dj grammer
New Age Empire.
General Tso's Alliance
316
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Posted - 2014.08.10 19:24:00 -
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failed troll clearly see the address. Should have put it in words before trying to post.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
1871
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Posted - 2014.08.10 19:24:00 -
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JRleo jr wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:JRleo jr wrote:[quote=Breakin Stuff]
You do realize kincats are pointless for many reasons?
I disagree. You're on the EHP > ALL bandwagon and it's flat WRONG
1. They cut in tank or regen
And they allow you the edge to escape TO regen, or to drop onto an enemy from an unexpected angle to flank while your slow buddies distract.
2. Most of the time people are not that far from another in a fight nor is sprinting around 1 m/s faster going to get you a kill
It can give you the edge you need to get the hell out and recover/reload/rearm/repair. I utilize biotics on my minmatar fatsuits just for that reason, to catch a breather. And it works. then when they've been re-engaged by allies... HMG IN THE BACK! Enjoy your suit not suited for combat (see what I did there?) In a combat situation 1v1 say behind cover or just 1v1, sprinting slightly faster isn't going to help you, nor has any opponent gotten an edge on me or fled. I can have 700 armor and 20 hp/s repair, I can move at a decent speed, kincats are viable around adv level on scouts, that I know for sure. Oh I can and do all the things you listed without a single biotic mod, simply because I don't stack 4 armor plates. So please, oh great and powerful biotic master, please tell me how beneficial gaining slight sprinting speed is during a strafe or repping behind cover or shooting from cover. I use biotics on a fatsuit to make it go fasta. You tell me. Dozens of people HMG'd and Mass Driver'd (commando!) last night Can't be wrong! And if it is... I don't wanna be right!
On a min fatsuit, maybe, for a gal assault? No
Gal Assault? Nah. that's brawly. One biotic won't hurt the fit, might enhance it for the edge they need to get into AR range with Calassault and Amarrsault. Their real strength will be the ability to armor tank while rocking the Damage mod crack. |
Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
7127
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Posted - 2014.08.10 19:25:00 -
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This guy is actually saying what should be used in a competitive environment?? I've been in more PC matches than this scrub has been in Pubs.
JRleo jr is actually the perfect example of a blueberry.
Let's observe his traits shall we?
-Assumes he knows more than anywho in the thread even though multiple people are telling him the opposite:
-Only knows one method of playstyle which is Ehp tanking: This shows that he is unable to stay alive by his own skill so he relies on tons of health to make up for his incompetence.
-Assumes he is more competitive than anyone in the thread
- Used a scout suit (Major red flag right there when coupled with the rest of what he's saying as you can tell he has no gun game so he chased FoTM and couldn't even make that work)
- This blueberry combats my shield statement with a false statement to make him look like he's right. Here we have a prime example of a blueberry talking out of his ass when he doesn't know anything.
This guy claims he has 700 armor and 20 hp/s but if you have that much with no biotics you will not have a decent speed. This guy's perception of speed must be severly low because this guys running at around 6.5 m/s and even less if he doesn't have biotic skills to level 5
As we can see JRleo jr has made all the requirements to be called a true noob. Wish him crangulations next time you see him in the re-spawn menu.
see you space cowboy...
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings
Proficiency V.
802
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Posted - 2014.08.10 19:27:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Also, basic locus grenades aren't very good. I recommend a flux, if you must use a standard grenade
I kill groups of people with one basic locus all the time. I never leave home without one on my cheap-o ISK saving fits.
What's the use of a flux when the AR is a shield-based weapon? Come on now.
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JRleo jr
Xer Cloud Consortium
377
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Posted - 2014.08.10 19:28:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:JRleo jr wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:JRleo jr wrote:[quote=Breakin Stuff]
You do realize kincats are pointless for many reasons?
I disagree. You're on the EHP > ALL bandwagon and it's flat WRONG
1. They cut in tank or regen
And they allow you the edge to escape TO regen, or to drop onto an enemy from an unexpected angle to flank while your slow buddies distract.
2. Most of the time people are not that far from another in a fight nor is sprinting around 1 m/s faster going to get you a kill
It can give you the edge you need to get the hell out and recover/reload/rearm/repair. I utilize biotics on my minmatar fatsuits just for that reason, to catch a breather. And it works. then when they've been re-engaged by allies... HMG IN THE BACK! Enjoy your suit not suited for combat (see what I did there?) In a combat situation 1v1 say behind cover or just 1v1, sprinting slightly faster isn't going to help you, nor has any opponent gotten an edge on me or fled. I can have 700 armor and 20 hp/s repair, I can move at a decent speed, kincats are viable around adv level on scouts, that I know for sure. Oh I can and do all the things you listed without a single biotic mod, simply because I don't stack 4 armor plates. So please, oh great and powerful biotic master, please tell me how beneficial gaining slight sprinting speed is during a strafe or repping behind cover or shooting from cover. I use biotics on a fatsuit to make it go fasta. You tell me. Dozens of people HMG'd and Mass Driver'd (commando!) last night Can't be wrong! And if it is... I don't wanna be right! On a min fatsuit, maybe, for a gal assault? No Gal Assault? Nah. that's brawly. One biotic won't hurt the fit, might enhance it for the edge they need to get into AR range with Calassault and Amarrsault. Their real strength will be the ability to armor tank while rocking the Damage mod crack.
Dammit there is not a problem with range, the speed is tiny compared to more reps or armor because 90% of the objectives is cqc, I'm rarely out of the engagement range of an ar because I don't go out in the open like an idiot all day, really annoying how you believe wasting a slot on biotics woukd be beneficial in 1v1 situation, and gallente qre faster than amarr, and it's not like they run away on sight, nor would the speed gained by the biotic help much unless they run for awhile.
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings
Proficiency V.
802
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Posted - 2014.08.10 19:29:00 -
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Topher Mellen wrote:Check out the fit here: -- link --The Hotfix Charlie damage mods are there to act as place holders for the current damage mods. I got a lot of really good feed back from my last fitting thread and I came up with something a little better I think. Let me know what you think. If it's crap, let me know what I should change. edit: punctuation
How do you like the hipfire bonus on Gal Assault? Was thinking about skilling into it come Charlie, but I'm not sure.
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JRleo jr
Xer Cloud Consortium
378
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Posted - 2014.08.10 19:30:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:This guy is actually saying what should be used in a competitive environment?? I've been in more PC matches than this scrub has been in Pubs.
JRleo jr is actually the perfect example of a blueberry.
Let's observe his traits shall we?
-Assumes he knows more than anywho in the thread even though multiple people are telling him the opposite:
-Only knows one method of playstyle which is Ehp tanking: This shows that he is unable to stay alive by his own skill so he relies on tons of health to make up for his incompetence.
-Assumes he is more competitive than anyone in the thread
- Used a scout suit (Major red flag right there when coupled with the rest of what he's saying as you can tell he has no gun game so he chased FoTM and couldn't even make that work)
- This blueberry combats my shield statement with a false statement to make him look like he's right. Here we have a prime example of a blueberry talking out of his ass when he doesn't know anything.
This guy claims he has 700 armor and 20 hp/s but if you have that much with no biotics you will not have a decent speed. This guy's perception of speed must be severly low because this guys running at around 6.5 m/s and even less if he doesn't have biotic skills to level 5
As we can see JRleo jr has made all the requirements to be called a true noob. Wish him congratulations next time you see him in the re-spawn menu.
Aww, how flattering.
I'm a closed beta vet.
I wasted sp on biotics 5.
I have all armor and shield skills map
Know how to use cover.
Used a min scout in 1.5 and 1.6
And hp or reps is very beneficial especially against the hmg, cr, or the burst dps of the scr.
Oh and I was using ar or for armor.
If I wanted slightly more speed I would have gone with shields, which I have.
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Pink fluffy unicorns
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.08.10 19:31:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Also, basic locus grenades aren't very good. I recommend a flux, if you must use a standard grenade I kill groups of people with one basic locus all the time. I never leave home without one on my cheap-o ISK saving fits. What's the use of a flux when the AR is a shield-based weapon? Come on now.
To clear equipment. The flux is unrivalled for that important task.
Killing groups of people with a 300 damage grenade?
Are you in academy?
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
1873
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Posted - 2014.08.10 19:31:00 -
[28] - Quote
that gallente fit you linked is some dualtanked Piece of Sh*t. It's heavy bait.
http://www.protofits.com/fittings/index/0/6390
Here. It's not a KinCat but it definitely is meant for mobility. |
JRleo jr
Xer Cloud Consortium
378
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Posted - 2014.08.10 19:33:00 -
[29] - Quote
Aaand your point is? I made an armor auit to have an hp advantage over my caldari suit, and I put the extenders for the extra protection from sudden damage, and an energizer for regen...
Isn't one of the main points of armor ehp?
My caldari assault has 500 shields or 600 if I feel like being a tanky *****.
Max level brony.
Pink fluffy unicorns
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
7128
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Posted - 2014.08.10 19:33:00 -
[30] - Quote
bamboo x wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Also, basic locus grenades aren't very good. I recommend a flux, if you must use a standard grenade I kill groups of people with one basic locus all the time. I never leave home without one on my cheap-o ISK saving fits. What's the use of a flux when the AR is a shield-based weapon? Come on now.
Even though I'm partial to the flux that's a matter of opinion.
Even though he is right, the Basic Locus is bad but at least you can kill with it.
The beauty of the flux is that it is great in the hands of someone who knows what they are doing. The flux Grenades wave can travel through solid objects which gives you the leg up in hitting an an enemy in a hard to reach spot and as long as the flux even remotely touches you your shields are gone. Which is not the same with a basic locus which has a small radius and falloff.
But still that's a matter of preference and playstyle I guess.
see you space cowboy...
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
7128
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Posted - 2014.08.10 19:34:00 -
[31] - Quote
JRleo jr wrote:Aww, how flattering.
I'm a closed beta vet.
I wasted sp on biotics 5.
I have all armor and shield skills map
Know how to use cover.
Used a min scout in 1.5 and 1.6
And hp or reps is very beneficial especially against the hmg, cr, or the burst dps of the scr.
A closed Beta Vet and still a blueberry?
That's quite an accomplishment.
see you space cowboy...
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Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
1873
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Posted - 2014.08.10 19:35:00 -
[32] - Quote
Sgt Kirk wrote:JRleo jr wrote:Aww, how flattering.
I'm a closed beta vet.
I wasted sp on biotics 5.
I have all armor and shield skills map
Know how to use cover.
Used a min scout in 1.5 and 1.6
And hp or reps is very beneficial especially against the hmg, cr, or the burst dps of the scr. A closed Beta Vet and still a blueberry? That's quite an accomplishment.
Some people have THAT much skill. |
Topher Mellen
Scott-Mellen Corporation
116
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Posted - 2014.08.10 19:36:00 -
[33] - Quote
bamboo x wrote:Topher Mellen wrote:Check out the fit here: -- link --The Hotfix Charlie damage mods are there to act as place holders for the current damage mods. I got a lot of really good feed back from my last fitting thread and I came up with something a little better I think. Let me know what you think. If it's crap, let me know what I should change. edit: punctuation How do you like the hipfire bonus on Gal Assault? Was thinking about skilling into it come Charlie, but I'm not sure.
I love the hipfire bonus. My favorite thing about it is that my TAC or Burst Assault Rifle is not only a long range weapon, but also a Scrambler Pistol in close quarters. |
JRleo jr
Xer Cloud Consortium
378
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Posted - 2014.08.10 19:37:00 -
[34] - Quote
Sgt Kirk wrote:JRleo jr wrote:Aww, how flattering.
I'm a closed beta vet.
I wasted sp on biotics 5.
I have all armor and shield skills map
Know how to use cover.
Used a min scout in 1.5 and 1.6
And hp or reps is very beneficial especially against the hmg, cr, or the burst dps of the scr. A closed Beta Vet and still a blueberry? That's quite an accomplishment.
I'm sorry if being able to stomp nyain san or fa in ambush is little skill at all.
Keep thinking your biotic module will increase your combat efficacy, it does not exactly help in a 1v1 fight, and they're qre too many hmg's around, so even in my "slow" suit I can strafe and kill them.
Max level brony.
Pink fluffy unicorns
http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos
Best song ever.
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Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
1873
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Posted - 2014.08.10 19:40:00 -
[35] - Quote
JRleo jr wrote:
I'm sorry if being able to stomp nyain san or fa in ambush is little skill at all. It was actually quite easy, got paid 500k or so when I do.
Keep thinking your biotic module will increase your combat efficacy, it does not exactly help in a 1v1 fight, and they're qre too many hmg's around, so even in my "slow" suit I can strafe and kill them.
Does it offend you that people hold a different opinion from your vision of how the world should work? Does the fact that they can make their visions work offend you horribly?
Do you need a shoulder to cry on? |
JRleo jr
Xer Cloud Consortium
379
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Posted - 2014.08.10 19:42:00 -
[36] - Quote
Breakin Stuff wrote:JRleo jr wrote:
I'm sorry if being able to stomp nyain san or fa in ambush is little skill at all. It was actually quite easy, got paid 500k or so when I do.
Keep thinking your biotic module will increase your combat efficacy, it does not exactly help in a 1v1 fight, and they're qre too many hmg's around, so even in my "slow" suit I can strafe and kill them.
Does it offend you that people hold a different opinion from your vision of how the world should work? Does the fact that they can make their visions work offend you horribly? Do you need a shoulder to cry on?
Kinda does, because a module that increases sprinting speed does nothing in a 1v1 fight
Maybe part of the reason is because I use shields, so I have no armor slowing me down.
Max level brony.
Pink fluffy unicorns
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Topher Mellen
Scott-Mellen Corporation
117
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Posted - 2014.08.10 19:43:00 -
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JRleo jr, stop measuring your dick in my thread. No one cares how good anyone is.
To the rest of you stop being goaded and keep posting fits for me to compare and contrast with.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
7128
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Posted - 2014.08.10 19:44:00 -
[38] - Quote
JRleo jr wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:JRleo jr wrote:Aww, how flattering.
I'm a closed beta vet.
I wasted sp on biotics 5.
I have all armor and shield skills map
Know how to use cover.
Used a min scout in 1.5 and 1.6
And hp or reps is very beneficial especially against the hmg, cr, or the burst dps of the scr. A closed Beta Vet and still a blueberry? That's quite an accomplishment. I'm sorry if being able to stomp nyain san or fa in ambush is little skill at all. Keep thinking your biotic module will increase your combat efficacy, it does not exactly help in a 1v1 fight, and they're qre too many hmg's around, so even in my "slow" suit I can strafe and kill them.
And what is this 1v1 crap you keep throwing around?
You know this game isn't thunderdome right?
You know this game is team based right?
Try that 1v1 attitude in a PC match or in an EVE Fleet Battle and see how far it gets you.
You keep bringing up 1v1 in a game that's 16v16 and there is your problem.
see you space cowboy...
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Topher Mellen
Scott-Mellen Corporation
117
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Posted - 2014.08.10 19:45:00 -
[39] - Quote
Also, to everyone posting fits, please don't post the Hotfix Charlie GK.0, I'm looking for fits for the current version of Dust. |
JRleo jr
Xer Cloud Consortium
379
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Posted - 2014.08.10 19:46:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:JRleo jr wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:JRleo jr wrote:Aww, how flattering.
I'm a closed beta vet.
I wasted sp on biotics 5.
I have all armor and shield skills map
Know how to use cover.
Used a min scout in 1.5 and 1.6
And hp or reps is very beneficial especially against the hmg, cr, or the burst dps of the scr. A closed Beta Vet and still a blueberry? That's quite an accomplishment. I'm sorry if being able to stomp nyain san or fa in ambush is little skill at all. Keep thinking your biotic module will increase your combat efficacy, it does not exactly help in a 1v1 fight, and they're qre too many hmg's around, so even in my "slow" suit I can strafe and kill them. And what is this 1v1 crap you keep throwing around? You know this game isn't thunderdome right? You know this game is team based right? Try that 1v1 attitude in a PC match or in an EVE Fleet Battle and see how far it gets you. You keep bringing up 1v1 in a game that's 16v16 and there is your problem.
That just makes it better, because more regen and more hp allows more time before withdrawal.
And most of my fights in pc are 1v1 or a hmg heavy, because we mostly win.
I said most, when using a non heavy.
Max level brony.
Pink fluffy unicorns
http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos
Best song ever.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
7128
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Posted - 2014.08.10 19:46:00 -
[41] - Quote
Topher Mellen wrote:JRleo jr, stop measuring your **** in my thread. No one cares how good anyone is. To the rest of you stop being goaded and keep posting fits for me to compare and contrast with. Thanks
Will do, this guy is a lost cause anyway.
I'm not sure if I told you this last night but the Gallente Assault Bonus is likely to get changed in Hotfix Delta along with the Caldari Assault and re-tuning of several skills to efficacy based skills.
So there's a chance Gallente Assault Could get a better bonus than our current one.
see you space cowboy...
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JRleo jr
Xer Cloud Consortium
379
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Posted - 2014.08.10 19:47:00 -
[42] - Quote
Topher Mellen wrote:Also, to everyone posting fits, please don't post the Hotfix Charlie GK.0, I'm looking for fits for the current version of Dust.
Erm, that is the current version, it's garunteed, and no point trying to make goid fits now, hf charlie is soon here.
Max level brony.
Pink fluffy unicorns
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Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
1873
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Posted - 2014.08.10 19:48:00 -
[43] - Quote
Topher Mellen wrote:JRleo jr, stop measuring your **** in my thread. No one cares how good anyone is. To the rest of you stop being goaded and keep posting fits for me to compare and contrast with. Thanks
No no young man, you have it all wrong. You see... I am goading HIM!
It's easy enough when someone gets mad because SOMEONE IS BEING WRONG ON THE INTERNET!
Even when wrong is a pure matter of both preference, and opinion. But I posted a fit. It has the cardiac regulator because if you're patrolling/hunting you want to be able to move fast at a good clip. Being able to sprint for the better part of a minute and recovering your stamina fully in under ten seconds is a godsend. You'll even outrun a few poorly fit scouts who are bricktanking just because you'll beat them on stamina. |
JRleo jr
Xer Cloud Consortium
379
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Posted - 2014.08.10 19:48:00 -
[44] - Quote
Sgt Kirk wrote:Topher Mellen wrote:JRleo jr, stop measuring your **** in my thread. No one cares how good anyone is. To the rest of you stop being goaded and keep posting fits for me to compare and contrast with. Thanks Will do, this guy is a lost cause anyway. I'm not sure if I told you this last night but the Gallente Assault Bonus is likely to get changed in Hotfix Delta along with the Caldari Assault and re-tuning of several skills to efficacy based skills. So there's a chance Gallente Assault Could get a better bonus than our current one.
You obviously skipped over 1 of my posts, a recent one.
Max level brony.
Pink fluffy unicorns
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Best song ever.
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Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
1873
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Posted - 2014.08.10 19:50:00 -
[45] - Quote
JRleo jr wrote:
You obviously skipped over 1 of my posts, a recent one.
it was irrelevant to the topic at hand. Why should we care about it? |
JRleo jr
Xer Cloud Consortium
379
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Posted - 2014.08.10 19:50:00 -
[46] - Quote
Breakin Stuff wrote:Topher Mellen wrote:JRleo jr, stop measuring your **** in my thread. No one cares how good anyone is. To the rest of you stop being goaded and keep posting fits for me to compare and contrast with. Thanks No no young man, you have it all wrong. You see... I am goading HIM! It's easy enough when someone gets mad because SOMEONE IS BEING WRONG ON THE INTERNET! Even when wrong is a pure matter of both preference, and opinion. But I posted a fit. It has the cardiac regulator because if you're patrolling/hunting you want to be able to move fast at a good clip. Being able to sprint for the better part of a minute and recovering your stamina fully in under ten seconds is a godsend. You'll even outrun a few poorly fit scouts who are bricktanking just because you'll beat them on stamina.
Hmm, I rarely see brick tanking scouts anymore, sadly, most I can't scan even with an enganver, mostly shotgunners though.
And in my shield suit I never ran out of stamiba when running away, maybe it's because armor takes longer to regen and is slower, haven't used one in awhile.
And why Don't you want hf charlie fits?
Oh and I was never mad, I'm tired if anything, I've been up for 17-18 hours.
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Dj grammer
New Age Empire.
General Tso's Alliance
316
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Posted - 2014.08.10 19:56:00 -
[47] - Quote
I see the 700 armor and the 330 shields for a grand total of 1031 eHP. Not bad also coming in at 20.75 hp/s on armor meaning it takes you from 0 to full about 34 seconds. Not bad. BUT there are problems I have seen after noticing your Duvolle could not fit.
Maximize your Core upgrades to 5 (core, engineering, and electronics). Otherwise you cannot fit a basic nanohive. Speaking of which why the wykromi nanos? What would you do when you do not have a sidearm, your AR is depleted of ammunition, and your nano's only repair you but does not give out ammo? So here is the same fit you had but with my skills put on your suit. You will notice you have a lot more room to play with.
So focusing on adding in more room. Maximize your AR fitting optimization to at least 3 or 4. 5 if you really want to max it. Now your AR doesn't cost as much PG. As a gallente your focus is armor tanking and regeneration to a certain point 80% of that focus on regeneration. I did not mess with your low slots but your high slots needed something. You do not need the recharger, gallente already have mediocre shielding so the charge doesn't help. I put a complex light dmg mod to help out the AR but had to drop 1 complex shield extender and put and enhanced extender in place. I also managed to put on an advance SMG and a flux grenade (grenades are your choice). As far as the nano's go, I put a K17-D instead. You will repair first before getting ammo but at full health you still get ammo. Here is the fit.
Now say you were all in for a complete change. Here is your fit completely changed.
You low slots contains 2 complex reactive plates, 1 complex armor plate, 1 complex repair module, and an enhanced kin cat. High slots are still the same from the second fit. Your weapon slots are still the same but the nano dumbed down to a compact nano. But you have 624 Armor and 321 shield with an armor repair rate at 17.38 hp/s meaning it takes about 36 seconds, 2 seconds longer that the original fit. Sprint speed is at 7.42m/s and the movement speed still around 5 m/s.
I don't know but it is up to you on this one.
Darkness is a Beginning, you see, not an end.
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Dj grammer
New Age Empire.
General Tso's Alliance
316
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Posted - 2014.08.10 19:57:00 -
[48] - Quote
Seems I skipped over the post too lol.
Darkness is a Beginning, you see, not an end.
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Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
1877
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Posted - 2014.08.10 20:01:00 -
[49] - Quote
HF charlie is likely to drop tuesday if the standard CCP release pattern holds true. Next tuesday on the outside. They tend to drop the patch notes a week before release to evaluate the response and see if there's any massive OH SH*T moments that get more than three goons laughing maniacally and drooling on the forums simultaneously. |
Topher Mellen
Scott-Mellen Corporation
117
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Posted - 2014.08.10 20:27:00 -
[50] - Quote
Sgt Kirk wrote:Topher Mellen wrote:JRleo jr, stop measuring your **** in my thread. No one cares how good anyone is. To the rest of you stop being goaded and keep posting fits for me to compare and contrast with. Thanks Will do, this guy is a lost cause anyway. I'm not sure if I told you this last night but the Gallente Assault Bonus is likely to get changed in Hotfix Delta along with the Caldari Assault and re-tuning of several skills to efficacy based skills. So there's a chance Gallente Assault Could get a better bonus than our current one.
Any word on what that bonus might be? |
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
16546
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Posted - 2014.08.10 20:43:00 -
[51] - Quote
Topher Mellen wrote:
Any word on what that bonus might be?
Unfortunately not.
Hoping for a good one though!
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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Topher Mellen
Scott-Mellen Corporation
118
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Posted - 2014.08.10 20:51:00 -
[52] - Quote
My new fitting with some minor adjustments: -- link --
What do you think? |
Topher Mellen
Scott-Mellen Corporation
118
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Posted - 2014.08.10 20:55:00 -
[53] - Quote
Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Topher Mellen wrote:
Any word on what that bonus might be?
Unfortunately not. Hoping for a good one though!
Darn. Fingers crossed that doesn't screw up my Tac AR CQC fun. |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
1890
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Posted - 2014.08.10 20:57:00 -
[54] - Quote
Topher Mellen wrote:My new fitting with some minor adjustments: -- link --What do you think?
ditch the extender for another damage mod, drop a plate for a rep, swap the burst for a duvolle.
Burst ARs underperform compared to both standard AR and, more importantly, the Combat Rifle. |
Topher Mellen
Scott-Mellen Corporation
118
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Posted - 2014.08.10 21:12:00 -
[55] - Quote
Breakin Stuff wrote:...swap the burst for a duvolle.
Burst ARs underperform compared to both standard AR and, more importantly, the Combat Rifle.
This saddens me. I love the extra range it gives with the scope. Helps me deal with Combat Rifles and Rail Rifles. Is the standard Assault Rifle really that much better than the burst? |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
16546
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Posted - 2014.08.10 21:33:00 -
[56] - Quote
Topher Mellen wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:...swap the burst for a duvolle.
Burst ARs underperform compared to both standard AR and, more importantly, the Combat Rifle. This saddens me. I love the extra range it gives with the scope. Helps me deal with Combat Rifles and Rail Rifles. Is the standard Assault Rifle really that much better than the burst?
Yes.
The burst AR doesn't really have that much more range, by the way, it just has a scope.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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Topher Mellen
Scott-Mellen Corporation
118
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Posted - 2014.08.10 21:40:00 -
[57] - Quote
More adjustments made: -- link --
Let me know what you would change. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
16548
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Posted - 2014.08.10 21:46:00 -
[58] - Quote
That's pretty close to what I'm using atm actually.
Consider upgrading the nanohive though. I think you might just about have enough resources for a K-2. If not, downgrade the complex damage mod to an enhanced one. That'll give you the fitting room you need and only cost you 1% damage.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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Topher Mellen
Scott-Mellen Corporation
118
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Posted - 2014.08.10 21:48:00 -
[59] - Quote
Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:That's pretty close to what I'm using atm actually.
Consider upgrading the nanohive though. I think you might just about have enough resources for a K-2. If not, downgrade the complex damage mod to an enhanced one. That'll give you the fitting room you need and only cost you 1% damage.
Right on. I'll try it out tonight before I make any more adjustments. Thanks for the help everyone!
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
16559
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Posted - 2014.08.10 22:30:00 -
[60] - Quote
As you're running dual rep, just remember to disengage. It allows you a very comfortable recovery rate if you do. A few moments spent hiding can bring you enough HP back to win fights.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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