DUST Search - The real reason people complain about Scouts and not Heavies

Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:

Breakin Stuff wrote:

Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:

In response to all the illiterate drivel being posted in attempt to flame me and those who are trying to support me--later today, if I have time, I will run a MLT HMG Minnie Heavy, and report my scores, good or bad, to the community.

I will run in 3 different scenarios--

1. Solo
2. Using an LAV and the infamous "Clown Car" tactic
3. Grouping up with a Logi and Cal scout for scans and reps

I will also mention the number of players in starter corps, high tier corps, and mid tier corps on each side.

I will then attempt to run a MLT Minnie scout, and the community can choose my fitting, and I will do the best I can with it, and report my scores in the same manner.

Wait. Youre going to do an actual REPORT? WITH LEGWORK???

Record the matches and post to YouTube to show your evidence.

I would, but unfortunately I have no recording material What?

If someone wants to tag along to record it, then feel free to do so Lol

Id like to settle this once and for all.


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Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 1842	Posted - 2014.08.10 08:53:00 - [1] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Yeah I'll just sit in the corner in my Assault suit, wait until mommy and daddy stop fighting. These are your PARENTS???? No wonder you're incurably insane. Do the universe a favor and shoot them repeatedly until common sense returns.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 1873	Posted - 2014.08.10 19:38:00 - [2] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Thats actually very good analysis of the current situation IMO This is a ranting QQ thread. Quit playing nice. Bluntly I think that reserving judgment till the patch drops is appropriate. Honestly I find that whiteroom numbers mean jack-all to live implementation. It can help, but by the logic some people use, I should never get kills in any reality. And yet... Tanks... So very tasty...
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 1939	Posted - 2014.08.11 19:02:00 - [3] - Quote Bormir1r wrote: Seriously; give some respect. He, you and every other pubbie in this game can get my respect by earning it. I don't give out freebies. No coherency, buncha anecdotal claims and no freaking evidence that amounts to buckets of tears. Win = Me Guess how many of you pubbies have actually earned my respect? Here's a hint. None of them post on the DUST forums.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 1941	Posted - 2014.08.11 20:25:00 - [4] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: In response to all the illiterate drivel being posted in attempt to flame me and those who are trying to support me--later today, if I have time, I will run a MLT HMG Minnie Heavy, and report my scores, good or bad, to the community. I will run in 3 different scenarios-- 1. Solo 2. Using an LAV and the infamous "Clown Car" tactic 3. Grouping up with a Logi and Cal scout for scans and reps I will also mention the number of players in starter corps, high tier corps, and mid tier corps on each side. I will then attempt to run a MLT Minnie scout, and the community can choose my fitting, and I will do the best I can with it, and report my scores in the same manner. Wait. Youre going to do an actual REPORT? WITH LEGWORK??? Record the matches and post to YouTube to show your evidence.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 1944	Posted - 2014.08.11 20:33:00 - [5] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: In response to all the illiterate drivel being posted in attempt to flame me and those who are trying to support me--later today, if I have time, I will run a MLT HMG Minnie Heavy, and report my scores, good or bad, to the community. I will run in 3 different scenarios-- 1. Solo 2. Using an LAV and the infamous "Clown Car" tactic 3. Grouping up with a Logi and Cal scout for scans and reps I will also mention the number of players in starter corps, high tier corps, and mid tier corps on each side. I will then attempt to run a MLT Minnie scout, and the community can choose my fitting, and I will do the best I can with it, and report my scores in the same manner. Wait. Youre going to do an actual REPORT? WITH LEGWORK??? Record the matches and post to YouTube to show your evidence. I would, but unfortunately I have no recording material If someone wants to tag along to record it, then feel free to do so Id like to settle this once and for all. You need to do at least 5-10 pubs for a good demographic with each setup. That way you can enjoy the fun of massacreing idiot pubstars who have never heard of teamwork and living the dream of getting your nuts ripped off by organized teams cuz yer fat and slow. By the way.. the logi + scout combo means teamwork is OP. I have said it before. Heavies shine like diamonds when you dont try to be a solo idiot pubstar. They are a squad support and hard defense class. Soloing sucks. Especially soloing with my average ping of 300-400. I love living in the middle of nowhere.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 1944	Posted - 2014.08.11 20:43:00 - [6] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Just for the reference, I run my Heavy solely to "rip the nuts" off of people who I kill too many times with my scout and then they pull out their Viziams and armor tank. Im 100% heavy spec. I can tell ya even at proto you wont like solo pubstaring. I have to because I exist in inconvenient times for normal goons. Heavy suits suck ass unsupported unless you get really lucky and are surrounded by newberries and idiots.running advanced or proto heavy isnt a profitable endeavor. I usually break even. To make a profit you really do have to stick to STD grade gear,
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 1944	Posted - 2014.08.11 20:46:00 - [7] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Just for the reference, I run my Heavy solely to "rip the nuts" off of people who I kill too many times with my scout and then they pull out their Viziams and armor tank. Im 100% heavy spec. I can tell ya even at proto you wont like solo pubstaring. I have to because I exist in inconvenient times for normal goons. Heavy suits suck ass unsupported unless you get really lucky and are surrounded by newberries and idiots.running advanced or proto heavy isnt a profitable endeavor. I usually break even. ....I find them very easy to solo in personally, and even easier to use with a group. But you try running a speed tanked minmitar scout, and tell me how easy it is Easy to solo in from match start to end without swapping suits?
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 1944	Posted - 2014.08.11 21:22:00 - [8] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Yes. Though I do occasionally need to find a supply depot to drop links and ammo or proxies if theres a really obnoxious tanker I don't buy it. There isn't a sentinel player who won't call BS on you here. You Make a lot of wild claims andapparently can godroll everyone in a militia heavy solo. Unless a third party verifies, I consider any findings you present as suspect and anecdotal. Further the only way to get fatty ez mode is to stalk outlier solo pubstars who are being idiots. Attacking a hardened and well defended position or trying to hold against attacking squads (the sentinel's job) is not easy mode. Being a lolrolling pubtard who only engages assured kills does not demonstrate heavy opness. I will grant a few points, however. 1: there are too many fatties on the field at any given time. 2: heavies are hard to kill on their terms (in close and brawling) 3: Heavy Machineguns do not currently overheat fast enough for gun game to matter. 4: Heavy murdertaxi is stupid. I prefer to run you over on my way to Delta. Cant be bothered interrupting winning for the chance to waste ammo im gonna need in thirty seconds. However, scoutboy, its not the heavies who are going to be your bane shortly. That will be the assault buff. But here is one thing to consider: DUST is not balanced around the mmo holy trinity of tank/healer/dps. Heavies are so slow and easy to hit that giving them heavy weapons that are less effective than light weapons makes them utterly useless. This has happened before. If it happens again say hello to rifle, shotgun and mass driver sentinels once again. And no i am not referring to commandos. Your crying that heavies kill too fast can be turned right around and applied to the cloak/shotgun combo which can ohk any suit but a heavy. Heavies are not low dps, high HP. That formula makes them nothing but free kills.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 1944	Posted - 2014.08.11 21:55:00 - [9] - Quote Im not worried. I just figure if I want to bait another ban for trolling or generally being an ass I want it to be SPECTACULAR. This tgread doesn't qualify. So I will be terrible by being terribly constructive.