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Defy Gravity
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Posted - 2014.08.10 18:34:00 -
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JRleo jr wrote:Juedfin90 wrote:Hello dear Community,
i represent some players from germany that wanted to know wheter all Scouts could have an respec of their Dropsuit Skill Tree , special the light frame partition.
Here is the argument:
We spend money and Skill Points into special Scout races because of the bonuses.
Dust 514 ( included the game fun, dropsuits ec. ) in generall is an service delivery.
So you change bonuses for Scouts, and now we doesnt get the attendance we skilled into , and payed into.
Conclusion is that you break the general terms.
So we want this Respec.
(my english isnt that good so try to speak easy and without abbreviation )
kind regardsfrom germany :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopyRHHlt3M
How about providing an actual argument? You're crappy joke was a failed attempt to make me laugh... If that was what you were trying to do...
As for a scout respec I have to say I agree & disagree... Even with the Cal Scouts bonus being removed lets face it. It still has glitchy hit detention and crazy strafe speed.... Also you can stack 453 shields without even trying! Though I also think the bonus being removed was a little bit unfair as I skilled into it for its EWAR capabilities. Not the fact that its pretty much an assault suit :/
Pokey Dravon for.... Oh never mind :.....(
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JRleo jr
Xer Cloud Consortium
377
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Posted - 2014.08.10 18:53:00 -
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Defy Gravity wrote:JRleo jr wrote:Juedfin90 wrote:Hello dear Community,
i represent some players from germany that wanted to know wheter all Scouts could have an respec of their Dropsuit Skill Tree , special the light frame partition.
Here is the argument:
We spend money and Skill Points into special Scout races because of the bonuses.
Dust 514 ( included the game fun, dropsuits ec. ) in generall is an service delivery.
So you change bonuses for Scouts, and now we doesnt get the attendance we skilled into , and payed into.
Conclusion is that you break the general terms.
So we want this Respec.
(my english isnt that good so try to speak easy and without abbreviation )
kind regardsfrom germany :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopyRHHlt3M How about providing an actual argument? You're crappy joke was a failed attempt to make me laugh... If that was what you were trying to do... lets face it. It still has glitchy hit detention and crazy strafe speed....
http://mylittlefacewhen.com/media/f/rsz/mlfw4485_medium.jpg
http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130114082001/mlpfanart/images/9/96/RD_oh_wait_you're_serious.png
Max level brony.
Pink fluffy unicorns
http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos
Best song ever.
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Matticus Monk
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
2312
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Posted - 2014.08.10 19:14:00 -
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Respec for all or none. Scouts don't deserve any special treatment.
Double posting like a Kaiser. Embracing the death, at Llast.
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iKILLu osborne
Dead Man's Game
142
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Posted - 2014.08.10 19:33:00 -
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i have always been a cal scout from the start of 1.8 to deal with cloaking/dampening since active scanners got "fixed", so i did not know about you'lls' imaginary hit detection issue (there isn't one but to shut you up lets say there is.) so do i deserve respec? You can bet your sweet ass i do.
However I am not advocating a respec, i will simply do all the scruby shitz you'll do that the true core players has asked to be fixed.
Say hello to your new strafing acr gal.scout, your new lav strafing hmg heavy, rooftop forger, "hit the power off button" thales sniper, and of course the always scruby red-line tanker (i already jihad that is my only shame.)
Mwahahaha 
"uh guys" "i got to go back to the depot that installation made me crap my dropsuit"
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Zindorak
1.U.P
515
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Posted - 2014.08.10 20:29:00 -
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No. They should of not skilled into the OP thing. If there were so much QQ about it.
Pokemon master
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NextDark Knight
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
449
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Posted - 2014.08.10 20:32:00 -
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Still don't understand why the Amarr didn't get a Melee bonus. That precision bonus doesn't make sense they aren't a good Ewar race. That extra stamina they have with some good punches to the face will make any slave cry tears.
Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1.
Original ROF needs to return!
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
1885
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Posted - 2014.08.10 20:35:00 -
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Juedfin90 wrote:
Likewise, you don't have the experience to even be aware of what is blatantly op, therefore any opinion you give comes from a lack of experience and therefore, you cannot possibly provide any valid argument.
If you had the experience, you'd have known right off the bat that the caldari scout is going to get a nerf.
I play dust for 2 years and i saw a lot of things getting nerfed,
but after 1.8 i thought that they stop with their behavoiur as they finally brought out all suits ...
it was an mistake like i see now.
I m studing physics and a good friend is studieng law in contect, so i talkes with him about this topic more general
and he gave me just that information that they break the terms and conditions of the general rules of an service supply with that behaviour.
Does someone knows something about that?
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Read the EULA. It CLEARLY states that CCP may at any time alter or remove any feature, item or mechanic in the game.
That thing you agreed to when you started the game and made an account.
Further, there is no legal precedent for legal action against a game developer for altering a game in accordance with their design philosophy. Bans that violate their own terms of service? YEah there is some there.
Further, if you represent a bunch of people who chose a overpowered suit class because it was overpowered and now are upset that it's not going to be as OP anymore you have come to the wrong forum for sympathy. |
Juedfin90
BLACK-GUARD
Die Fremdenlegion
4
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Posted - 2014.08.11 18:46:00 -
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Breakin Stuff,
your are totally right about the EULA, i just never have read it...
" If you aren´t strong, be smart " citation from Sun Zu´s Book Tactics of War
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
3218
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Posted - 2014.08.11 21:06:00 -
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Respecs reward FOTM chasing.
Forget a respec.
This is how a minja feels
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
1944
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Posted - 2014.08.11 21:29:00 -
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Juedfin90 wrote:Breakin Stuff,
your are totally right about the EULA, i just never have read it...
Why the f**k would you not read a contract you are digitally signing off on?
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
3222
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Posted - 2014.08.11 23:47:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Juedfin90 wrote:Breakin Stuff,
your are totally right about the EULA, i just never have read it...
Why the f**k would you not read a contract you are digitally signing off on? Are you stoned?
If we freaking read every EULA, no one would have free time to actually use the things they were trying to sign off on.
They purposely make those things unreadable.
This is how a minja feels
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ugg reset
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
599
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Posted - 2014.08.12 00:05:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:F scouts... let them steep in the tears of not being the OP FOTM in charlie!
you can't see me. now you can't see me with the help of your friends. good luck
Thr33 is the magic number.
no hope.
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TheEnd762
SVER True Blood
Dark Taboo
579
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Posted - 2014.08.12 00:23:00 -
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What scout changes are we talking about? I can't find the Hotfix-C numbers. |
One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
3222
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Posted - 2014.08.12 00:32:00 -
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TheEnd762 wrote:What scout changes are we talking about? I can't find the Hotfix-C numbers.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12yHt3jDUpz8WVl6hwjXujZq20y-lmN3VIUJObkXxPhw/edit?pli=1#gid=862599497
It was in the sticky on this section of the forums labeled hot fix charlie numbers...
This is how a minja feels
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TheEnd762
SVER True Blood
Dark Taboo
579
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Posted - 2014.08.12 00:56:00 -
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Okay, so... under the Scout eWar tab?
How about someone just says " we're pissed because ____ scouts are losing ____ bonus"? |
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
2016
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Posted - 2014.08.12 11:47:00 -
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You Heavies and Assaults have so little foresight....Come Charlie, you're all going to complain that you want the Cal scout back because of shared passives taking away your only weaknesses.
Once one scout is out there that doesn't have a red chevron over his head that kills you, the tears will come rolling in, as they always do.
"What? I have to use my eyes? CCP WTF why are scouts so OP that I actually have to see where they are and track them with my eyes to kill them?"
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
Give the Minja active dampening!--By Bor
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
6292
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Posted - 2014.08.12 16:54:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:F scouts... let them steep in the tears of not being the OP FOTM in charlie!
Oh no.
At least we're still better off than pre-1.7
"The Dark Days" as we like to call it.
FA's Stabber Extraordinaire
Minmatar Enthusiast
Explosions and Bulletstorm? Count me in!
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
7175
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Posted - 2014.08.12 16:58:00 -
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Respec for everyone but scouts!
see you space cowboy...
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Matticus Monk
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
2328
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Posted - 2014.08.12 19:37:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Respec for everyone but scouts!
Actually, it's "respect"....
Double posting like a Kaiser. Embracing the death, at Llast.
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
3228
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Posted - 2014.08.12 21:23:00 -
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TheEnd762 wrote:Okay, so... under the Scout eWar tab?
How about someone just says " we're pissed because ____ scouts are losing ____ bonus"?
I think it is mostly the FOTM scouts that are pissed.
Most real scouts are happy to hopefully not be FOTM anymore.
This is how a minja feels
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Vesperz
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
99
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Posted - 2014.08.13 00:17:00 -
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Good thing I've stayed Minmatar scout since its initial release. **** Gal and Cal scouts. >:(
Live by honor, kill by stealth.
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RogueTrooper 2000AD
Neckbeard Absolution
193
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Posted - 2014.08.13 10:42:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:F scouts... let them steep in the tears of not being the OP FOTM in charlie! Oh no. At least we're still better off than pre-1.7 "The Dark Days" as we like to call it.
There's never been any scout dark days.
Stop talking like a scrub newb, you are definitely better than that.
Service with a smile
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kyoudai Furinkazan
1057
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Posted - 2014.08.13 11:11:00 -
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Harpyja wrote:No respec.
If you chose, say, Caldari scout because it shield tanks, then Charlie shouldn't be much of a problem for you at all.
But if you skilled into Caldari because it had the most OP skill bonus, then you most definitely do not deserve a respec.
You should skill for racial preference, not for the best bonus.
Sometimes that just too hard to do with the crappy bonuses that some races get .
The Cal scout bonus was the best bonus that Caldari had for all roles and that's just sad .
If you want to get the best performance out of your character , it's best to skill into races that highlight your own personal strong suits ... I for one am Caldari but because of their p!ss poor bonuses , I have to skill outside of my race 70% of the time which saddens me personally .
Caldari has some of the worst and non-productive bonuses in the game .
Debate it all you like if you choose .
Worst bonuses ever .
Refunds hopefully will come to those who choose after Delta so keep that in mind , I would like that to be priority no # 1 after Delta drops so all those on board please keep that in mind .
Charlie will screw the Caldari again because of the bonuses that they have .
I for one ... don't mind the Cal scout changes and believe that they might just keep the phrase ... Caldari and FOTM , from never being said again because it was funny while it was happening but being Caldari it was sad because most of what is Caldari is so gimped unless it's maxed out .. it's a joke .
Going full Caldari with the current bonuses that they have is a joke and a waste of SP's .
You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
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Zindorak
1.U.P
608
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Posted - 2014.08.13 12:25:00 -
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no, no, no, no, no, no, no.... no, no, no, no nononono
no, no, no, no, no, no, no.... no, no, no, no nononono
nononono nono nono nono nono
Sung to the tune of the troll song
Pokemon master
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noob cavman
And the ButtPirates
1699
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Posted - 2014.08.13 13:47:00 -
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My scout is somewhat hard mode again.
im so so very happy with this. *\o/* 
I want to be a caveman!
Ccp: LEGION
Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
Full steam ahead into the enemies booty yarrr.
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Yeeeuuuupppp
uptown456
Dark Taboo
545
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Posted - 2014.08.13 14:09:00 -
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Sure, I'd be down, since my scout's bonuses were thrown on the ground and pissed on by Ccp. I seriously only got gallente scout so I could be invisible while being survivable. (Was minmatar before they added racial dropsuit parity. To squishy no, likey).
Orr, as an alternative, they could remove the Second biggest crutch in the game. The cloak: making scouts easy since 1.8.
Also if someone calls me out for using cloak, seriously, go fvck yourself, how else am I suppose to knife/shotgun when every time I'm about to get a kill, I get murdered by some "Invisi scout". Should've kept being invisible as a glitch or not have it in the game.
O7
Wannabe Slayer
PSN: GMANCASH
Rage Proficiency V
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Tread Loudly 2
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
28
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Posted - 2014.08.13 15:58:00 -
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If scouts get a respec lol I would love to get one for vehicles since they are so UP thanks to these Hot Fixes ^-^ but it's okay I guess I was going to need a proto suit anyways...
I Like Tanks, ADS's, and Ion Pistols!
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