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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
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Posted - 2014.08.09 04:27:00 -
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Whats the deal with peeps useing Breach AR recently?
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
1061
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Posted - 2014.08.09 05:20:00 -
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it works thats why.
KEQ diplomat/ intel /GC officer
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Apocalyptic Destroyer
RestlessSpirits
54
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Posted - 2014.08.09 05:22:00 -
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Only Assault Rifle that does the Job ! Next to my Gek !
~R1P
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
7093
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Posted - 2014.08.09 05:24:00 -
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Because it's fun to be honest.
It doesn't do anything better than the other rifles.
It's just satisfying to use.
You will not see this in a PC battle.
see you space cowboy...
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JRleo jr
Xer Cloud Consortium
248
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Posted - 2014.08.09 05:38:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Because it's fun to be honest.
It doesn't do anything better than the other rifles.
It's just satisfying to use.
You will not see this in a PC battle.
Is it better than a doubvolle?
As I can use any ar on jy hf charlie assault gk.0 alt.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
7094
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Posted - 2014.08.09 05:56:00 -
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JRleo jr wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Because it's fun to be honest.
It doesn't do anything better than the other rifles.
It's just satisfying to use.
You will not see this in a PC battle. Is it better than a doubvolle? As I can use any ar on jy hf charlie assault gk.0 alt.
Duvolle Assault Rifle is the Gold Standard for the Gallente Rifles and even then the Duvolle is crap when compared to the other races rifles.
Just use the Duvolle for now, hopefully when delta comes along and Caldari / Gallente Assault bonuses get reworked the Gallente will get something that makes the Plasma Rifle worth using against the other rifles.
see you space cowboy...
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Topher Mellen
Scott-Mellen Corporation
109
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Posted - 2014.08.09 05:57:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:JRleo jr wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Because it's fun to be honest.
It doesn't do anything better than the other rifles.
It's just satisfying to use.
You will not see this in a PC battle. Is it better than a doubvolle? As I can use any ar on jy hf charlie assault gk.0 alt. Duvolle Assault Rifle is the Gold Standard for the Gallente Rifles and even then the Duvolle is crap when compared to the other races rifles. Just use the Duvolle for now, hopefully when delta comes along and Caldari / Gallente Assault bonuses get reworked the Gallente will get something that makes the Plasma Rifle worth using against the other rifles.
That's a thought. Hope it happens. |
JRleo jr
Xer Cloud Consortium
248
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Posted - 2014.08.09 05:59:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:JRleo jr wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Because it's fun to be honest.
It doesn't do anything better than the other rifles.
It's just satisfying to use.
You will not see this in a PC battle. Is it better than a doubvolle? As I can use any ar on my hf charlie assault gk.0 alt. Duvolle Assault Rifle is the Gold Standard for the Gallente Rifles and even then the Duvolle is crap when compared to the other races rifles. Just use the Duvolle for now, hopefully when delta comes along and Caldari / Gallente Assault bonuses get reworked the Gallente will get something that makes the Plasma Rifle worth using against the other rifles. P.S. Don't get me wrong, the other Plasma Rifles are fun to use and very satisfying, they just are terrible in comparison.
Oh, well I only used the duvolle.
I hope the cr gets its dps toned down again, or an actual penalty vs shields...
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
7095
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Posted - 2014.08.09 06:04:00 -
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Oh yeah, speaking of the CR DPS nerf, the first time it happened people were crying that the CR was **** suddenly.
Think about that for a second, but don't say anything. Scrubs tend to get offended when you call them out on their crutches.
see you space cowboy...
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Hakyou Brutor
Pure Evil.
956
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Posted - 2014.08.09 10:56:00 -
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All I know is it wrecks my Cal Scout. |
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Jin Foxdale
Jedi Slime.
202
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Posted - 2014.08.09 11:27:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Whats the deal with peeps useing Breach AR recently?
I cant speak for everyone of course, but I had 50+ of them from salvage and I was clearing out my assets. To my great surprise and happiness, I found it very satisfying to use!
Wouldn't be with out my BAR now.
If you see me in the redline, driving an LAV in circles, fear not! Its my two year old son enjoying New Eden.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
15716
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Posted - 2014.08.09 11:32:00 -
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The Creo is pretty satisfying to use, although the sound mismatch is a little jarring IMO.
It's not as good as a Duvolle but it's a nice piece of kit for when you're not feeling quite so tryhard.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
1939
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Posted - 2014.08.09 11:54:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:JRleo jr wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Because it's fun to be honest.
It doesn't do anything better than the other rifles.
It's just satisfying to use.
You will not see this in a PC battle. Is it better than a doubvolle? As I can use any ar on jy hf charlie assault gk.0 alt. Duvolle Assault Rifle is the Gold Standard for the Gallente Rifles and even then the Duvolle is crap when compared to the other races rifles. Just use the Duvolle for now, hopefully when delta comes along and Caldari / Gallente Assault bonuses get reworked the Gallente will get something that makes the Plasma Rifle worth using against the other rifles. P.S. Don't get me wrong, the other Plasma Rifles are fun to use and very satisfying, they just are terrible in comparison.
Duvolle has >500 DPS at full auto....i fail to see the problem...
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
15716
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Posted - 2014.08.09 12:23:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:JRleo jr wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Because it's fun to be honest.
It doesn't do anything better than the other rifles.
It's just satisfying to use.
You will not see this in a PC battle. Is it better than a doubvolle? As I can use any ar on jy hf charlie assault gk.0 alt. Duvolle Assault Rifle is the Gold Standard for the Gallente Rifles and even then the Duvolle is crap when compared to the other races rifles. Just use the Duvolle for now, hopefully when delta comes along and Caldari / Gallente Assault bonuses get reworked the Gallente will get something that makes the Plasma Rifle worth using against the other rifles. P.S. Don't get me wrong, the other Plasma Rifles are fun to use and very satisfying, they just are terrible in comparison. Duvolle has >500 DPS at full auto....i fail to see the problem...
No it doesn't?
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
7105
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Posted - 2014.08.09 13:20:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:[
Duvolle has >500 DPS at full auto....i fail to see the problem... No it doesn't?
Against shields it does but not when against armor.
That guy also fails to realise that the DPS quickly drops off past 44 meters.
But, the Duvolle is in fact in a good place, Plasma Rifle Variants need a slight buff and most of the other rifles need a tune down. When you can shoot through armor and shields and not have a noticeable difference in power, there's a problem.
see you space cowboy...
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
15717
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Posted - 2014.08.09 13:28:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:[
Duvolle has >500 DPS at full auto....i fail to see the problem... No it doesn't? Against shields it does but not when against armor. That guy also fails to realise that the DPS quickly drops off past 44 meters. But, the Duvolle is in fact in a good place, Plasma Rifle Variants need a slight buff and most of the other rifles need a tune down. When you can shoot through armor and shields and not have a noticeable difference in power, there's a problem.
Doesn't do more than 500 DPS even against shields unless you damage mod/prof it.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
7106
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Posted - 2014.08.09 13:33:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:[
Duvolle has >500 DPS at full auto....i fail to see the problem... No it doesn't? Against shields it does but not when against armor. That guy also fails to realise that the DPS quickly drops off past 44 meters. But, the Duvolle is in fact in a good place, Plasma Rifle Variants need a slight buff and most of the other rifles need a tune down. When you can shoot through armor and shields and not have a noticeable difference in power, there's a problem. Doesn't do more than 500 DPS even against shields unless you damage mod/prof it.
Whoops, I counted in my Prof and damage mods.
I retract the first part of my statement.
see you space cowboy...
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RYN0CER0S
Rise Of Old Dudes
924
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Posted - 2014.08.09 13:39:00 -
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I keep seeing them on the Killfeed.
Must be working.
(Gotta remember to see what the Galmmando thinks of them.)
Who farted?
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
7107
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Posted - 2014.08.09 14:30:00 -
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RYN0CER0S wrote:I keep seeing them on the Killfeed.
Must be working.
(Gotta remember to see what the Galmmando thinks of them.)
wow great logic there Sherlock.
(gotta remember what the Calmmando thinks of the Rail Rifle)
(gotta remember what the Minmmando thinks of the Combat Rifle)
(gotta remember what the Ammando thinks of the scrambler rifle)
I bet you they all think higher than a Galmmando with a plasma rifle.
and no **** they are still on the killfeed everywhere.
They've been the supplied rifle of frontline suits since forever so people especially casuals won't skill out of a weapon they are familiar with
see you space cowboy...
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
303
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Posted - 2014.08.09 14:45:00 -
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JRleo jr wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:JRleo jr wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Because it's fun to be honest.
It doesn't do anything better than the other rifles.
It's just satisfying to use.
You will not see this in a PC battle. Is it better than a doubvolle? As I can use any ar on my hf charlie assault gk.0 alt. Duvolle Assault Rifle is the Gold Standard for the Gallente Rifles and even then the Duvolle is crap when compared to the other races rifles. Just use the Duvolle for now, hopefully when delta comes along and Caldari / Gallente Assault bonuses get reworked the Gallente will get something that makes the Plasma Rifle worth using against the other rifles. P.S. Don't get me wrong, the other Plasma Rifles are fun to use and very satisfying, they just are terrible in comparison. Oh, well I only used the duvolle. I hope the cr gets its dps toned down again, or an actual penalty vs shields...
the CR is fine cause no one actually shield tanks atm so its all a matter of perspective.. the real threat and imbalance is the rail rifle at max skills on sb-34 adv RR gets 59 a shot and its deadly accurate
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Bojo The Mighty
Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno
4988
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Posted - 2014.08.09 17:49:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:
the CR is fine cause no one actually shield tanks atm so its all a matter of perspective.. the real threat and imbalance is the rail rifle at max skills on sb-34 adv RR gets 59 a shot and its deadly accurate
Combat Rifle Damage Profile: -5% shields +10% armor.....yeah no, it's not a matter of perspective
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Meisterjager Jagermeister
Red and Silver Hand
Amarr Empire
325
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Posted - 2014.08.09 18:02:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Whats the deal with peeps useing Breach AR recently?
Wow, I didn't realize it was a thing. I've been using it for a few weeks now.
I'm not sure what it is but it performs well for me. I know on paper that the duvolle is superior but I do just as well with a GB-9.
Had a 22 kill game with it a few days ago (that's a great game for me). I think it is its rate of fire that makes me more deliberate how I aim and spam the trigger were as with a duvolle I may spray n pray too often. And I do feel like less of a scrub running adv instead of a proto weapon regularly. Ammo lasts a bit longer and it is also half the isk of a duvolle. I'm tempted to run the CreoDron B AR but that is a lot more isk.
Well, that's my take on it for what its worth.
AKA - StarVenger
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Zindorak
1.U.P
282
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Posted - 2014.08.09 18:04:00 -
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I don't really use AR that much anymore. I use ScR and CR
Pokemon master
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
305
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Posted - 2014.08.09 18:08:00 -
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Meisterjager Jagermeister wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Whats the deal with peeps useing Breach AR recently? Wow, I didn't realize it was a thing. I've been using it for a few weeks now. I'm not sure what it is but it performs well for me. I know on paper that the duvolle is superior but I do just as well with a GB-9. Had a 22 kill game with it a few days ago (that's a great game for me). I think it is its rate of fire that makes me more deliberate how I aim and spam the trigger were as with a duvolle I may spray n pray too often. And I do feel like less of a scrub running adv instead of a proto weapon regularly. Ammo lasts a bit longer and it is also half the isk of a duvolle. I'm tempted to run the CreoDron B AR but that is a lot more isk. Well, that's my take on it for what its worth.
i think its probably more accurate and effective over rage cause of lower ROF but more dmg per shot while normal ar/burst are better closer range
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
305
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Posted - 2014.08.09 18:09:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:
the CR is fine cause no one actually shield tanks atm so its all a matter of perspective.. the real threat and imbalance is the rail rifle at max skills on sb-34 adv RR gets 59 a shot and its deadly accurate
Combat Rifle Damage Profile: -5% shields +10% armor.....yeah no, it's not a matter of perspective
explosive+20 to armor and i find my projectile dosnt less vs armor then my rail rifles do
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Zindorak
1.U.P
286
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Posted - 2014.08.09 18:15:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:
the CR is fine cause no one actually shield tanks atm so its all a matter of perspective.. the real threat and imbalance is the rail rifle at max skills on sb-34 adv RR gets 59 a shot and its deadly accurate
Combat Rifle Damage Profile: -5% shields +10% armor.....yeah no, it's not a matter of perspective explosive+20 to armor and i find my projectile dosnt less vs armor then my rail rifles do
Yea RR OP. It takes a while for me to kills with the CR
Pokemon master
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
305
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Posted - 2014.08.09 18:18:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:
the CR is fine cause no one actually shield tanks atm so its all a matter of perspective.. the real threat and imbalance is the rail rifle at max skills on sb-34 adv RR gets 59 a shot and its deadly accurate
Combat Rifle Damage Profile: -5% shields +10% armor.....yeah no, it's not a matter of perspective explosive+20 to armor and i find my projectile dosnt less vs armor then my rail rifles do Yea RR OP. It takes a while for me to kills with the CR
yeah even standard RR with L4 seems to beat out CR with L4 and with the amount of deaths i recive ill bet its even worse when you start getting L5+proficiency
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Derpty Derp
Dead Man's Game
268
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Posted - 2014.08.09 18:21:00 -
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Screw the breach, tactical ar is where it's at. |
Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
313
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Posted - 2014.08.09 18:23:00 -
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Derpty Derp wrote:Screw the breach, tactical ar is where it's at.
tac? thats burst one right?
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Zindorak
1.U.P
301
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Posted - 2014.08.09 18:23:00 -
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Derpty Derp wrote:Screw the breach, tactical ar is where it's at.
Wait you're not serious right?
Pokemon master
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Bojo The Mighty
Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno
4995
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Posted - 2014.08.09 18:24:00 -
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Derpty Derp wrote:Screw the breach, tactical ar is where it's at.
GLU-5 For the win
OP FOTM lacks cognition
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Bojo The Mighty
Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno
4995
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Posted - 2014.08.09 18:26:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:
the CR is fine cause no one actually shield tanks atm so its all a matter of perspective.. the real threat and imbalance is the rail rifle at max skills on sb-34 adv RR gets 59 a shot and its deadly accurate
Combat Rifle Damage Profile: -5% shields +10% armor.....yeah no, it's not a matter of perspective explosive+20 to armor and i find my projectile dosnt less vs armor then my rail rifles do
Explosives have nothing to do with combat rifle and rail rifles are at least balanced by the -10% against shields
OP FOTM lacks cognition
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Thumb Green
The Valyrian Guard
1227
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Posted - 2014.08.09 18:43:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:
the CR is fine cause no one actually shield tanks atm so its all a matter of perspective.. the real threat and imbalance is the rail rifle at max skills on sb-34 adv RR gets 59 a shot and its deadly accurate
Combat Rifle Damage Profile: -5% shields +10% armor.....yeah no, it's not a matter of perspective explosive+20 to armor and i find my projectile dosnt less vs armor then my rail rifles do Explosives have nothing to do with combat rifle and rail rifles are at least balanced by the -10% against shields
The CR does around 48% less damage per shot than the RR.
Kill Scotty
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Bojo The Mighty
Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno
5003
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Posted - 2014.08.09 18:55:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:
the CR is fine cause no one actually shield tanks atm so its all a matter of perspective.. the real threat and imbalance is the rail rifle at max skills on sb-34 adv RR gets 59 a shot and its deadly accurate
Combat Rifle Damage Profile: -5% shields +10% armor.....yeah no, it's not a matter of perspective explosive+20 to armor and i find my projectile dosnt less vs armor then my rail rifles do Explosives have nothing to do with combat rifle and rail rifles are at least balanced by the -10% against shields The CR does around 48% less damage per shot than the RR.
CR: has 3 less CPU, 9 less PG over Rail Rifle
CR does 564.3 DPS against Shields, RR does 357.92 DPS against shields
CR does 653.4 DPS against Armor, RR does 437.46 DPS against Armor
RR has a 16 meter better optimal range
Yeah, no....CR is definitely better than RR
EDIT: almost forgot, Combat Rifle has the highest accuracy rating of any rifle
OP FOTM lacks cognition
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Darken-Soul
BIG BAD W0LVES
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
1916
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Posted - 2014.08.09 19:45:00 -
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The breach seems to be the ticket to gunning down scouts. It fires a tight pattern from the hip and can strafe into headshots with only slight adjustments. Also I've been collectin the creodrons since the last refund. I double em up on a galmando.
they put heavies down too.
Who wants some?
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JRleo jr
Xer Cloud Consortium
259
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Posted - 2014.08.09 19:49:00 -
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Haha, finally someone stole my exact link I used on these forums, I coul tell because it had my like on the video...
Max level brony.
Pink fluffy unicorns
http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos
Best song ever.
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