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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.08.07 23:19:00 -
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Bone Scratcher wrote:I was under the impression that ADS prices were coming down, but don't see it in the patch notes. Was that idea cut off? There was at least a 500 shield buff to the Python, but I had hoped that the price of an ADS would be around 175K, considering how a tank is about 50K... 
If my tank actually got bonuses per level, I'd be fine with a higher price tag. |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.08.07 23:23:00 -
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Bone Scratcher wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Bone Scratcher wrote:I was under the impression that ADS prices were coming down, but don't see it in the patch notes. Was that idea cut off? There was at least a 500 shield buff to the Python, but I had hoped that the price of an ADS would be around 175K, considering how a tank is about 50K... If my tank actually got bonuses per level, I'd be fine with a higher price tag. 50K is ridiculous. I'd also like to point out that the militias are EVEN CHEAPER. If you lose 4 tanks a match and still make profit, something's wrong.
Well I can assure you the tanks I fit and use cost quite a bit more than 50k. Large Turrets are actually quite expensive. |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.08.07 23:31:00 -
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Bone Scratcher wrote:Militia turrets seem to be effective, too. A militia swarm SHOULD be able to take out a militia tank, but thanks to CCP's reasoning, even prof V protos have issues taking them down. Well played.
Don't get too worked up there  I'm not the kind of tanker who thinks I should God Incarnate. I run AV frequently and understand quite well how difficult it with the current system.
The primary issue is that CCP attempted to tiercide vehicles, and while they initially did that, they did it poorly. The problem is that AV weapons were still tiered, which leads to a balance issue which cannot be fixed with mere damage changes. Vehicles need to tiered again, or at the very least the modules so, such that militia AV is balanced against militia vehicle defenses, and proto AV is balanced against proto vehicle defenses. |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.08.07 23:39:00 -
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Bone Scratcher wrote:We have SMALL TURRETS.  Plus, they're not, "cheap". My best ADS is 600K. Actually, you're right. a Militia tank isn't equal to an ADS. It's better. Twenty militia tanks are the same price as one ADS. Militia tanks get a large turret slot, plus more HP. 
Honestly man after the various nerfs to Large Rails, an ADS is the most terrifying thing for an HAV to deal with. If you get above us, what can we do? You're faster, more menueverable, and if we somehow DO get the jump on you, you can fly straight up and out of danger, but aside from the redline, I have no where to run from you. I'm not saying this is a bad thing, but you should be able to use your ADS to tear militia tanks apart, because I know I have a really hard time dealing with an ADS, even in a full pimped out HAV. |
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