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Apocalyptic Destroyer
RestlessSpirits
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Posted - 2014.08.03 03:23:00 -
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Either its just me or Militia gear is being used off the charts. Even when going up against those "Big" Corps such as Nyain Chan They don't even bother to use Proto Gear anymore, given the fact that of course they use their Proto Suits, Their militia guns do off the charts damage. I thought they could be stacking hardcore damage mods but that wouldn't make any sense, Anyone know why this is ?
~R1P
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Michael Arck
5075
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Posted - 2014.08.03 03:29:00 -
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Maybe they don't care anymore? Like Vincent D'Onforio in the movie "The Thirteenth Floor" after he realized he's just a program in another man's virtual reality experience.
Archistrategos
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
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Apocalyptic Destroyer
RestlessSpirits
45
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Posted - 2014.08.03 03:31:00 -
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I thought that too, but they're getting 20+ kills and most of the time dying no less than five times.
~R1P
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Freccia di Lybra
Maphia Clan Corporation
198
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Posted - 2014.08.03 03:32:00 -
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Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote:Either its just me or Militia gear is being used off the charts. Even when going up against those "Big" Corps such as Nyain Chan They don't even bother to use Proto Gear anymore, given the fact that of course they use their Proto Suits, Their militia guns do off the charts damage. I thought they could be stacking hardcore damage mods but that wouldn't make any sense, Anyone know why this is ?
Proficiencies and passive skills perhaps? At max skills Gallente Starter Fits are so so powerful...
Ei fu,
xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
1824
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Posted - 2014.08.03 03:52:00 -
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Freccia di Lybra wrote:Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote:Either its just me or Militia gear is being used off the charts. Even when going up against those "Big" Corps such as Nyain Chan They don't even bother to use Proto Gear anymore, given the fact that of course they use their Proto Suits, Their militia guns do off the charts damage. I thought they could be stacking hardcore damage mods but that wouldn't make any sense, Anyone know why this is ? Proficiencies and passive skills perhaps? At max skills Gallente Starter Fits are so so powerful...
this^^
Also, most MLT weapons are only a hair or two behind proto.
MLT ScR is the best MLT weapon IMO because it has the same overheat as the basic. Same for the LR except the LR isn't good at basic anyways
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
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Give the Minja active dampening!--By Bor
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Apocalyptic Destroyer
RestlessSpirits
45
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Posted - 2014.08.03 03:55:00 -
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Ah, that makes sense. That has to be changed to at least a 7 HP difference for militia to Proto and basic being a 5 HP difference from Proto. That would make more sense than a mere couple of 0.01 to 0.02
~R1P
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
6874
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Posted - 2014.08.03 04:21:00 -
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Metal Gear
see you space cowboy...
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
General Tso's Alliance
2319
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Posted - 2014.08.03 04:35:00 -
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Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote:Either its just me or Militia gear is being used off the charts. Even when going up against those "Big" Corps such as Nyain Chan They don't even bother to use Proto Gear anymore, given the fact that of course they use their Proto Suits, Their militia guns do off the charts damage. I thought they could be stacking hardcore damage mods but that wouldn't make any sense, Anyone know why this is ?
The fact that people think there is this massive damage difference in using Proto type gear is hilarious.
All proto-type gear does is give you more survivability.... The skills to get the gear helps more then the actual items.
The average player in DUST these days have the aggressive nature of Turnip.. You can pressure most of the players to cower in the corner with your MLT gear and kill them in the group they huddle together to hide in.
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Reign Omega
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
720
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Posted - 2014.08.03 05:10:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Metal Gear
Nanomachines?
A display of sucking that rivals the highest amount of sucking that a player has displayed in the history of sucking.-JR
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Reign Omega
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
720
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Posted - 2014.08.03 05:13:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote:Either its just me or Militia gear is being used off the charts. Even when going up against those "Big" Corps such as Nyain Chan They don't even bother to use Proto Gear anymore, given the fact that of course they use their Proto Suits, Their militia guns do off the charts damage. I thought they could be stacking hardcore damage mods but that wouldn't make any sense, Anyone know why this is ? The fact that people think there is this massive damage difference in using Proto type gear is hilarious. All proto-type gear does is give you more survivability.... The skills to get the gear helps more then the actual items. The average player in DUST these days have the aggressive nature of Turnip.. You can pressure most of the players to cower in the corner with your MLT gear and kill them in the group they huddle together to hide in. DUST's pubs make me sad now
The celery stalks at midnight, you know?
A display of sucking that rivals the highest amount of sucking that a player has displayed in the history of sucking.-JR
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1754
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Posted - 2014.08.03 05:57:00 -
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I was under the impression that proto gear gave you a massive difference in damage. Now the i know otherwise, MLT gear it is.
Sides itz not the gear that makes you, its the player. If you noticed my complaint has gone tremly down since realizatoin.
My MLT fit i run quite frequently
Standard G-1 scout, MLT shotgun, MLT SMG, MLT shield, 2 MLT damperners, 1 MLT kin, basic remotes, basic fluxes.
Total cost, 7k ISK
Total effectiveness, as long as im competent with good movement & cover seeking. Non-cloak is for pros.
If you use cloak shotgun you are a scrub.
PSN Sil4nt Chaozz
Autistic, artist, scout, OCD\ADHD\BI-Polar....
with a hint of sanity.
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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
3050
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Posted - 2014.08.03 06:24:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Metal Gear
Damn it. I can never read that line without David Hayter voicing it over in my head. |
Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1582
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Posted - 2014.08.03 06:37:00 -
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I love the children's lit reference. Hillarious. Link inserted for those not in the know.
Fun > Realism
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Reign Omega
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
720
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Posted - 2014.08.03 07:00:00 -
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Mobius Kaethis wrote:I love the children's lit reference. Hillarious. Link inserted for those not in the know.
Lol first thing that came to mind thinking of an "aggressive turnip"
A display of sucking that rivals the highest amount of sucking that a player has displayed in the history of sucking.-JR
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
2770
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Posted - 2014.08.03 07:08:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Freccia di Lybra wrote:Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote:Either its just me or Militia gear is being used off the charts. Even when going up against those "Big" Corps such as Nyain Chan They don't even bother to use Proto Gear anymore, given the fact that of course they use their Proto Suits, Their militia guns do off the charts damage. I thought they could be stacking hardcore damage mods but that wouldn't make any sense, Anyone know why this is ? Proficiencies and passive skills perhaps? At max skills Gallente Starter Fits are so so powerful... this^^ Also, most MLT weapons are only a hair or two behind proto. MLT ScR is the best MLT weapon IMO because it has the same overheat as the basic. Same for the LR except the LR isn't good at basic anyways
Unless you're talking Knives (which don't have a MLT variant, and the STD are horrible, anyways), or the Flaylock which, believe it or not, COULD actually get worse if it had a MLT variant. |
Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
2770
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Posted - 2014.08.03 07:11:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:I was under the impression that proto gear gave you a massive difference in damage. Now the i know otherwise, MLT gear it is.
Sides itz not the gear that makes you, its the player. If you noticed my complaint has gone tremly down since realizatoin.
My MLT fit i run quite frequently
Standard G-1 scout, MLT shotgun, MLT SMG, MLT shield, 2 MLT damperners, 1 MLT kin, basic remotes, basic fluxes.
Total cost, 7k ISK
Total effectiveness, as long as im competent with good movement & cover seeking. Non-cloak is for pros.
If you use cloak shotgun you are a scrub.
You could use STD shotgun for 2 extra shots and a quicker reload, and better kincats. I never use anything lower than ADV when it comes to those. I only use the STD one on my Scout Sniper fit. |
RYN0CER0S
Rise Of Old Dudes
805
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Posted - 2014.08.03 08:20:00 -
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No MLT HMG?
All of the weapons introduced after Uprising have MLT variants?
Half-assed mother *******...
Who farted?
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Reign Omega
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
720
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Posted - 2014.08.03 08:34:00 -
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RYN0CER0S wrote:No MLT HMG?
All of the weapons introduced after Uprising have MLT variants?
Half-assed mother *******...
Theyll never put a MLT HMG in, just like there is a blueprint for all the old weapons except the HMG and forge. I have blueprint AR,SG,sniper,SMG, Pistol.... There are blueprint and MLT ScR, LR too.
A display of sucking that rivals the highest amount of sucking that a player has displayed in the history of sucking.-JR
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
16074
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Posted - 2014.08.03 08:34:00 -
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And people question why I don't want bonuses to apply to militia gear.
CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist
\\= Advanced Minmatar Sentinel =// Unlocked
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Broonfondle Majikthies
Dogs of War Gaming
1241
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Posted - 2014.08.03 09:30:00 -
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What can I say. I love the MLT CR with my Assault M-1
Same clip size as any other suit using a basic CR but a fraction of the cost. 
"The air smells damp and oppressive, like a wet nun"
"Why am I talking to a lightbulb? Illuminate me"
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I-Shayz-I
I----------I
4450
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Posted - 2014.08.03 13:44:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:And people question why I don't want bonuses to apply to militia gear.
Makes logical sense anyways.
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Thurak1
Psygod9
875
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Posted - 2014.08.03 14:58:00 -
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They probably figured just like i did that proto gear does not offer a great advantage like the price tag would seems to suggest. |
Logi Bro
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
3158
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Posted - 2014.08.03 17:05:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:And people question why I don't want bonuses to apply to militia gear.
Because there is literally no reason to do so? You know what would allow people to stomp harder than full passive skilled militia suits? Full skilled proto suits against a bunch of non-passive skilled militia noobs.
Literally the only thing you would do is cause anybody who is smart to use STD and all the noobs to get their asses stomped even harder than they already do. Just leave it as it is.
SP Sinks? Fixed.
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843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
168
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Posted - 2014.08.03 17:12:00 -
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Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote:Either its just me or Militia gear is being used off the charts. Even when going up against those "Big" Corps such as Nyain Chan They don't even bother to use Proto Gear anymore, given the fact that of course they use their Proto Suits, Their militia guns do off the charts damage. I thought they could be stacking hardcore damage mods but that wouldn't make any sense, Anyone know why this is ?
its the weapon operations and profi skills they effects all versions of the weapons, even militia ones. so free suits + skills = best preformance with slighty less damage |
The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
3823
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Posted - 2014.08.03 17:19:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:And people question why I don't want bonuses to apply to militia gear.
There is no issue with that. Vets who got high SP barely ever use militia grade gear. The lowest i go is sometimes standard but allmost never militia (except for the odd repair BPO that ive got).
New shield module!
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Apocalyptic Destroyer
RestlessSpirits
49
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Posted - 2014.08.03 17:29:00 -
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Well I feel that Militia Gear should have a somewhat low HP difference. Low enough to barely kill someone. I shouldn't be dying in my Fat Heavy with a MH-82 to a " such and such (Scrambler Rifle) Apocalyptic. . "
~R1P
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843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
169
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Posted - 2014.08.05 01:32:00 -
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Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote:Well I feel that Militia Gear should have a somewhat low HP difference. Low enough to barely kill someone. I shouldn't be dying in my Fat Heavy with a MH-82 to a " such and such (Scrambler Rifle) Apocalyptic. . "
If your getting killed by a named weapon then its not militia, since it's named its going to be standard and above. Most likely you are getting killed by a bpo suit. I run mostly bpo suits just because my skills are mostly maxed out and i don't need my proto gear.
Tbh i wish they would put bpo stuff back in the market for a limited time, there was a few that i missed and would love to be able get them. |
The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
3839
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Posted - 2014.08.05 04:13:00 -
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There is no militia HMG. There was a discussion about it but the devs where too affraid to implement it into the game. Cause then every twatt could go militia HMG at the get go.
New shield module!
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Spectre-M
The Generals
Anime Empire.
600
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Posted - 2014.08.05 04:33:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:And people question why I don't want bonuses to apply to militia gear.
Yeah cause god forbid that new players skills apply at all to the gear they use. Can't afford anymore adv or std gear, newberry? Don't worry, just use the militia variant where your measly sp won't give you any benefit. 
Minnmitar in Amarr armor.
A Wolf in Sheeps clothing.
May the Empress live till she graces my sights.
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