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CHEESE CAKE FACTORY
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.08.02 00:40:00 -
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Hi there coul you say me how many sp i need to get proto caldari commando wit kalakiota rail rifle and proto equipment and what equipment is it?
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Atiim
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
11173
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Posted - 2014.08.02 00:44:00 -
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PRO Kaalakiota RR & Nanohives?
Does this include Shield Extenders and Armor Repairers?
edit: 3,768,330 SP
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CHEESE CAKE FACTORY
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.08.02 00:48:00 -
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i dont know
what do you think ? |
Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
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Posted - 2014.08.02 01:28:00 -
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It'll take: a lot.
You'll have to not log in for like 3 to 4 months to unlock all dat. The suit, weapon, and equipment, I mean.
If you just want the suit for the damage bonus, don't even bother. As much as I like Michelin, the suit is very squishy and slow. Plus, he's brighter than an atomic bomb when detonated.
Your call, though. |
Eruditus 920
Prodigy Ops
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Posted - 2014.08.02 01:55:00 -
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Can you tell me how much sp I need to proto a Gal logi with complex damps and a scr?
Sucks doesn't it?
Do for yourself.
Wisdom is what you gain after you need it.
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Jadek Menaheim
Ancient Textiles.
3349
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Posted - 2014.08.02 02:00:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:It'll take: a lot.
You'll have to not log in for like 3 to 4 months to unlock all dat. The suit, weapon, and equipment, I mean.
If you just want the suit for the damage bonus, don't even bother. As much as I like Michelin, the suit is very squishy and slow. Plus, he's brighter than an atomic bomb when detonated.
Your call, though.
Makes me wonder how CCP is going to address that commando color scheme across the other racial suits. It does seem like they reduced the size of its thighs.
Want ISK? I'm giving it away!
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kyoudai Furinkazan
997
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Posted - 2014.08.02 02:26:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:
Makes me wonder how CCP is going to address that commando color scheme across the other racial suits. It does seem like they reduced the size of its thighs.
They could make them all red like the Amarr .
I can't see too many getting upset about that .
The Amarr Commando is one of the best looking suits , not even at proto just basic and advanced .
Proto just looks all the more better .
You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
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Soulja Ghostface
MCDUSTDONALDS
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Posted - 2014.08.02 02:26:00 -
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Skill up your core upgrades before skilling into proto gear.
Thank me later
Put these items in legion as they will add diversity to vehicles as they did before!
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kyoudai Furinkazan
997
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Posted - 2014.08.02 02:31:00 -
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Joel II X wrote: The suit is very squishy and slow.
Yeah it is , but it wouldn't be if it had one more low slot ... I would trade a high on that suit for a low any day and it's one of my favorite suits .
With an extra low and a regulator , that suit would be just right .
It is squishy though and could use some speed .
All the Commando's could use a speed boost .
You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
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J4yne C0bb
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
510
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Posted - 2014.08.02 02:49:00 -
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Yes. But I'm not going to. You can, however, calculate it yourself, using this:
http://wiki.dust514.info/index.php?title=Skills#Skill_Multipliers
Min Logi | aka Punch R0ckgroin, fatman
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HYENAKILLER X
WILL FIGHT ANYONE
766
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Posted - 2014.08.02 03:16:00 -
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The truth is with 10% damage bonus from lvl 5, 15% damage from level 5 rail rifle +3 5% damage mods= +40% to rail rifles at proto.
Lol.....everything is squishy against that.
But you are clearly better at hiding than fighting so the damage bunus onlt scares you.
Im not from new eden. I dont need back up, political power or support. I, unlike you dont fear nuetral territory.
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Justice Prevails
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Posted - 2014.08.02 04:20:00 -
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Squishy, slow, and ugly(actually, so am I) but I love it. Definitely a range fighter, so I stick to Domination and ambush, and pick my spots in CQC.
Wish they would give it the same colors as the Caldari assault lineup. It's not like you could confuse the two.
Embracing my inner scrub since 2013.
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J4yne C0bb
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
510
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Posted - 2014.08.02 06:11:00 -
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Justice Prevails wrote:Squishy, slow, and ugly(actually, so am I) but I love it. Definitely a range fighter, so I stick to Domination and ambush, and pick my spots in CQC.
Wish they would give it the same colors as the Caldari assault lineup. It's not like you could confuse the two.
Yeah, it's very good at range, this is why I still into it on my heavy alt. Some maps are very difficult to assault as a heavy once the enemy is entrenched, like the bridge map, so I went Cal Commando with a RR and Magsec. A bit more effective.
Min Logi | aka Punch R0ckgroin, fatman
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Kyr Kitar
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.08.02 08:30:00 -
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HYENAKILLER X wrote:The truth is with 10% damage bonus from lvl 5, 15% damage from level 5 rail rifle +3 5% damage mods= +40% to rail rifles at proto.
Lol.....everything is squishy against that.
But you are clearly better at hiding than fighting so the damage bunus onlt scares you.
Damage mods have a stacking penalty so 3x 5% does not equate to a flat 15% boost. If it was that easy, everyone would be running 3x damage mods still. 15% flat damage is a lot, especially when you have weapons like a breach shotgun that do excessive damage. |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
2633
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Posted - 2014.08.02 08:49:00 -
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You can also use
http://www.protofits.com/fittings
To do SP calcs given certain skill levels. |
Chunky Munkey
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Posted - 2014.08.02 09:37:00 -
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CHEESE CAKE FACTORY wrote:Hi there coul you say me how many sp i need to get proto caldari commando wit kalakiota rail rifle and proto equipment and what equipment is it?
Look at the skill multipliers for all the skills you want. 1x is roughly 1 week capped out. So add them all up and you'll have a quick rough estimate of the time it'll take to get your stuff.
Destiny won't kill Dust.
CCP already did that.
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
2747
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Posted - 2014.08.02 14:03:00 -
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HYENAKILLER X wrote:The truth is with 10% damage bonus from lvl 5, 15% damage from level 5 rail rifle +3 5% damage mods= +40% to rail rifles at proto.
Lol.....everything is squishy against that.
But you are clearly better at hiding than fighting so the damage bunus onlt scares you.
How did you know I was a scout opportunist?
Oh, that's right. I've said that for a long time. |
ThePlayerkyle13
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
124
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Posted - 2014.08.02 14:05:00 -
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Use this - http://www.protofits.com
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
7967
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Posted - 2014.08.02 15:57:00 -
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HYENAKILLER X wrote:The truth is with 10% damage bonus from lvl 5, 15% damage from level 5 rail rifle +3 5% damage mods= +40% to rail rifles at proto.
Lol.....everything is squishy against that.
But you are clearly better at hiding than fighting so the damage bunus onlt scares you.
Three Complex Damage Mods doesn't stack to 15%. There's a stacking penalty.
King Thunderbolt is my number one fan.
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
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Posted - 2014.08.02 16:01:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:HYENAKILLER X wrote:The truth is with 10% damage bonus from lvl 5, 15% damage from level 5 rail rifle +3 5% damage mods= +40% to rail rifles at proto.
Lol.....everything is squishy against that.
But you are clearly better at hiding than fighting so the damage bunus onlt scares you. Three Complex Damage Mods doesn't stack to 15%. There's a stacking penalty.
Probably barely brakes 11%
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LASERS BTCH!!!!!!!
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HYENAKILLER X
WILL FIGHT ANYONE
766
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Posted - 2014.08.02 17:13:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Patrick57 wrote:HYENAKILLER X wrote:The truth is with 10% damage bonus from lvl 5, 15% damage from level 5 rail rifle +3 5% damage mods= +40% to rail rifles at proto.
Lol.....everything is squishy against that.
But you are clearly better at hiding than fighting so the damage bunus onlt scares you. Three Complex Damage Mods doesn't stack to 15%. There's a stacking penalty. Probably barely brakes 11%
36% of 40 is 44.4. I can live with that. Caldari comando has best damage buff ingame.
Im not from new eden. I dont need back up, political power or support. I, unlike you dont fear nuetral territory.
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kyoudai Furinkazan
1002
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Posted - 2014.08.02 17:36:00 -
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HYENAKILLER X wrote: Caldari comando has best damage buff ingame.
The Nova Knife buff for Min scout isn't bad either , you could take out a Sentinel with two to three swipes and kill most average suits with just one .
When I say average I mean other than a heavy .
You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
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CHEESE CAKE FACTORY
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.08.02 18:20:00 -
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Thanks everybody i cant decide amarr combat or caldari commando ilike both so what do you think i should use? I think ammar combat is cheaper than caldari commando and i think i could control all the battle field with it bot i think caldari commando would cover my team and kill at better distance but i think is more camper than others sweets |
Jack 3enimble
Vengeance Unbound
Dark Taboo
89
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Posted - 2014.08.02 18:46:00 -
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I use both. On a alt I have a pro Amarr on my main adv Cal. If you want proto and still thinking about costs you prob dont want to take it proto. besides, commando's are useless without your core skill.
On topic. The Amarr is beast at range with the laser rifle. CQC the scrambler is really good if you're not cockeyed and can aim. The Cal's biggest weakspot is the 1 low. but is faster than the Amarr and has great shield regen abilities. Again if you do your core first. Although the Cal relies on ranged weapons, my personal opinion is that you can fit it more as a brawler than you can do with the Amarr. it's hard to choose tbh. Commando's are pretty much the most balanced suits if you compare them to each other tbh. |
Atiim
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
11196
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Posted - 2014.08.02 20:01:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Patrick57 wrote:HYENAKILLER X wrote:The truth is with 10% damage bonus from lvl 5, 15% damage from level 5 rail rifle +3 5% damage mods= +40% to rail rifles at proto.
Lol.....everything is squishy against that.
But you are clearly better at hiding than fighting so the damage bunus onlt scares you. Three Complex Damage Mods doesn't stack to 15%. There's a stacking penalty. Probably barely brakes 11%
Yes, 3 Complex Damage Modifiers yields 12.69%.
Though with that fit you'd have absolutely no buffer or regen, so It's a scrub fit for anything other than Sniping.
Hotfix Charlie = Uprising 1.7
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Atiim
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
11196
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Posted - 2014.08.02 20:03:00 -
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CHEESE CAKE FACTORY wrote:Thanks everybody i cant decide amarr combat or caldari commando ilike both so what do you think i should use? I think ammar combat is cheaper than caldari commando and i think i could control all the battle field with it bot i think caldari commando would cover my team and kill at better distance but i think is more camper than others sweets
Which weapons do you like best; Rail and Sniper Rifles, or Scrambler and Laser Rifles?
Also, you can play around and make some fittings for both Commandos here.
Hotfix Charlie = Uprising 1.7
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J4yne C0bb
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
510
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Posted - 2014.08.02 20:04:00 -
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I wouldn't say the Calamando is a 'camper' fitting... I mean, I guess it can be, but having a really good ranged combat fitting is important, otherwise you'll never be able to assault or defend certain maps. I chose a long range fit intentionally, as a complimentary fitting to my short-range heavy Punch... now I can go either short or long, depending on what the map calls for.
But Jack is right, unless your Dropsuit Core Upgrades is pretty much all at 5, commando may not be the suit for you, just yet. You can get away with using other suits with your cores not fully completed, but not commando. Might want to spend your SP there, or wait and see how the assault suits turn out in a month or so.
Min Logi | aka Punch R0ckgroin, fatman
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Tora Kiri
G.L.O.R.Y
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.08.03 14:43:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Patrick57 wrote:HYENAKILLER X wrote:The truth is with 10% damage bonus from lvl 5, 15% damage from level 5 rail rifle +3 5% damage mods= +40% to rail rifles at proto.
Lol.....everything is squishy against that.
But you are clearly better at hiding than fighting so the damage bunus onlt scares you. Three Complex Damage Mods doesn't stack to 15%. There's a stacking penalty. Probably barely brakes 11% i laugh at people that think commando drop suite are garbage, when i rail rifle them and they go run and hide then i mass drive their ass from behind cover, or point defending on top a building or tower, and they bring an ads for my ass, i pull out my swarms, u just have to know what play style to use
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