DUST Search - Replaying your death from the perspective of the killer

Maken Tosch wrote:

Apothecary Za'ki wrote:

Maken Tosch wrote:

Considering I'm coming back to Dust after Hotfix Charlie is released, I have to say "hell no" to kill cams. It's such a cheap way of gaining intel and it punishes snipers who went through all the trouble of finding and settling in an optimal spot. And I was a constant victim of snipers before I went into a hiatus.

Anyone who asks for it is not honestly planning to use it to get better. They're just asking for it because they want targets handed to them on a silver platter without effort put into it.

optimal spot? you meen on a roof/silo or redline? get real 90% or higher of the snipers are always in the redline

What about the remaining 10% or fewer of the snipers that DO snipe legitimately. They do exist you know.

@OP

Overall, kill cams of any kind, whether it's during battle or after battle, are a terrible mechanic for lazy players who don't want to be bothered with having to actually guesstimate where the target was shooting from. In dust, you are given a death report at the moment of your death which tells you the distance and type of weapon the sniper used. Others who were near you and observed your death would at least be able to see the bullet trail. And if the sniper fails at OHKing you, your damage indicator will give you the general direction of the shot. From there you can guess where the sniper is at and work your way from there. It's not hard at all.

And if the sniper is in the redline, all the better for me because I specialized already in sprinting into the redline just to stab them. It's possible since a Minmatar scout can sprint just over two football fields in 20 seconds.

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Dreis Shadowweaver D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 4	Posted - 2014.08.01 20:07:00 - [1] - Quote How about instead of staring at the ground for 20 seconds after you die waiting for a revive, you instead replay the moments before your death from what your opponent saw (with the oppertunity to skip it, of course)? Firstly, I feel that this could help in improving player skill by showing them their mistakes so that they will be more aware and mindful next time. Secondly, it's gotta be better than eyeing up dirt for 20 seconds, right? And lastly, I'd love for my prey to see my awesome knife kills!!! Well, I once meleed an R.E.. That's all you need to know about me...
Killer's Coys Prima Gallicus 94	Posted - 2014.08.01 20:18:00 - [2] - Quote Hmmm.... Not for me... I'm not a sniper, and I'ld enjoy see it, but when sniper kill you, you could see where he is, so the sniper would not have 3sec more to survive.. Because of you could see his position... Ho yeah Love you Rattati!
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 15555	Posted - 2014.08.01 20:30:00 - [3] - Quote No. We do not need killcams. Such a thing would completely ruin clever positioning because oh look, you know exactly where they are when they kill you. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Bormir1r Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 657	Posted - 2014.08.01 20:31:00 - [4] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: No. We do not need killcams. Such a thing would completely ruin clever position ing because oh look, you know exactly where they are when they kill you. Lol that would be such a copy of COD... "One does not simply" run like a Raptor. Only Mk.0 Scouts will do that. Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p is my Minja Brother.
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon 2570	Posted - 2014.08.01 20:53:00 - [5] - Quote Kill cam? No, thanks. But i would like to know if they kill me with an headshot or not. PSN: ogamega "Dust is full of communists who despise people with enough isk to buy expensive items"
Zindorak 1.U.P 217	Posted - 2014.08.01 21:35:00 - [6] - Quote Yes so i can kill them (cowardly) snipers Master of the Scrambler Pistol. Carthum Assault ScP <3
501st Headstrong G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 415	Posted - 2014.08.01 21:36:00 - [7] - Quote No. It'll cause more anger than you know, seeing an enemy shoot you when you run around a corner, and aim assist making the bullets kill you. Plus this would be a client update From the Clone Wars I came. Here I am a man among tamed beasts, and a god...among men CEO of G0DS AM0NG MEN
Louis Domi Pradox One Proficiency V. 572	Posted - 2014.08.01 21:42:00 - [8] - Quote Maybe instead of kill cams, we have an end game highlight reels of the best and most bad ass moments of the game? One time I jumped out of a DS just to shotgun a couple people off the building and my DS fell and exploded on a couple of the enemies... That is something I would want the enemy to watch.
TheEnd762 SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 560	Posted - 2014.08.02 02:47:00 - [9] - Quote No killcams. Ever.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8960	Posted - 2014.08.02 03:04:00 - [10] - Quote Considering I'm coming back to Dust after Hotfix Charlie is released, I have to say "hell no" to kill cams. It's such a cheap way of gaining intel and it punishes snipers who went through all the trouble of finding and settling in an optimal spot. And I was a constant victim of snipers before I went into a hiatus. Anyone who asks for it is not honestly planning to use it to get better. They're just asking for it because they want targets handed to them on a silver platter without effort put into it. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.

Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1567	Posted - 2014.08.02 07:30:00 - [11] - Quote That is a no from me as well as likes for everyone else you said "no." This idea is bad and I intend for it to die here and now. Fun > Realism
BLOOD Ruler The Lionheart Coalition 628	Posted - 2014.08.02 07:33:00 - [12] - Quote I actually like it. Feel the pain of my knives and the piercing pain your skull has felt to my pistol.I am the Assassin.
Dreis Shadowweaver D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 6	Posted - 2014.08.02 09:55:00 - [13] - Quote Ok, since it could ruin positioning during the game, how about being able to review your deaths after the battle? Surely then there would be no problem with it, right? Well, I once meleed an R.E.. That's all you need to know about me...
Guybrush Threeps K-A-O-S theory 3	Posted - 2014.08.02 11:19:00 - [14] - Quote As a sniper that puts a lot of effort in to my often vulnerable positions.... No. Never, ever ever.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1805	Posted - 2014.08.02 12:05:00 - [15] - Quote shaman oga wrote: Kill cam? No, thanks. But i would like to know if they kill me with an headshot or not. This, i can get behind. "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ Give the Minja active dampening!--By Bor
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 217	Posted - 2014.08.02 12:34:00 - [16] - Quote id love to see where the ******* sniper was camping.. oh.. wait.. deep in the redline...FFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU Logibro in training. Weapon Damage Profiles Quick List
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 217	Posted - 2014.08.02 12:35:00 - [17] - Quote Guybrush Threeps wrote: As a sniper that puts a lot of effort in to my often Untouchable spot deep in the redline.... No. Never, ever ever. fixed that for ya Logibro in training. Weapon Damage Profiles Quick List
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 217	Posted - 2014.08.02 12:37:00 - [18] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Considering I'm coming back to Dust after Hotfix Charlie is released, I have to say "hell no" to kill cams. It's such a cheap way of gaining intel and it punishes snipers who went through all the trouble of finding and settling in an optimal spot. And I was a constant victim of snipers before I went into a hiatus. Anyone who asks for it is not honestly planning to use it to get better. They're just asking for it because they want targets handed to them on a silver platter without effort put into it. optimal spot? you meen on a roof/silo or redline? get real 90% or higher of the snipers are always in the redline Logibro in training. Weapon Damage Profiles Quick List
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8963	Posted - 2014.08.02 19:59:00 - [19] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Considering I'm coming back to Dust after Hotfix Charlie is released, I have to say "hell no" to kill cams. It's such a cheap way of gaining intel and it punishes snipers who went through all the trouble of finding and settling in an optimal spot. And I was a constant victim of snipers before I went into a hiatus. Anyone who asks for it is not honestly planning to use it to get better. They're just asking for it because they want targets handed to them on a silver platter without effort put into it. optimal spot? you meen on a roof/silo or redline? get real 90% or higher of the snipers are always in the redline What about the remaining 10% or fewer of the snipers that DO snipe legitimately. They do exist you know. @OP Overall, kill cams of any kind, whether it's during battle or after battle, are a terrible mechanic for lazy players who don't want to be bothered with having to actually guesstimate where the target was shooting from. In dust, you are given a death report at the moment of your death which tells you the distance and type of weapon the sniper used. Others who were near you and observed your death would at least be able to see the bullet trail. And if the sniper fails at OHKing you, your damage indicator will give you the general direction of the shot. From there you can guess where the sniper is at and work your way from there. It's not hard at all. And if the sniper is in the redline, all the better for me because I specialized already in sprinting into the redline just to stab them. It's possible since a Minmatar scout can sprint just over two football fields in 20 seconds. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 220	Posted - 2014.08.02 21:12:00 - [20] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Considering I'm coming back to Dust after Hotfix Charlie is released, I have to say "hell no" to kill cams. It's such a cheap way of gaining intel and it punishes snipers who went through all the trouble of finding and settling in an optimal spot. And I was a constant victim of snipers before I went into a hiatus. Anyone who asks for it is not honestly planning to use it to get better. They're just asking for it because they want targets handed to them on a silver platter without effort put into it. optimal spot? you meen on a roof/silo or redline? get real 90% or higher of the snipers are always in the redline What about the remaining 10% or fewer of the snipers that DO snipe legitimately. They do exist you know. @OP Overall, kill cams of any kind, whether it's during battle or after battle, are a terrible mechanic for lazy players who don't want to be bothered with having to actually guesstimate where the target was shooting from. In dust, you are given a death report at the moment of your death which tells you the distance and type of weapon the sniper used. Others who were near you and observed your death would at least be able to see the bullet trail. And if the sniper fails at OHKing you, your damage indicator will give you the general direction of the shot. From there you can guess where the sniper is at and work your way from there. It's not hard at all. And if the sniper is in the redline, all the better for me because I specialized already in sprinting into the redline just to stab them. It's possible since a Minmatar scout can sprint just over two football fields in 20 seconds. those who snipe legitimately i have respect for while still hateing being stung in the ass while performing my duty as the team legi. ps i do use the damage direction notifation to get a guesstimation of where they may be, but when i start to hunt for them they have already bugged or are in the redline Logibro in training. Weapon Damage Profiles Quick List

Alena Ventrallis S0VER31GN 1512	Posted - 2014.08.03 02:29:00 - [21] - Quote shaman oga wrote: Kill cam? No, thanks. But i would like to know if they kill me with an headshot or not. You can tell. You'll get this word horn sound if you die to a headshot. Can't really describe it, but there is notification of a headshot. Rattati has spoken. CalScout hitbox is fine. You're gun game is broken.
DJINN Jecture BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 165	Posted - 2014.08.03 06:47:00 - [22] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Considering I'm coming back to Dust after Hotfix Charlie is released, I have to say "hell no" to kill cams. It's such a cheap way of gaining intel and it punishes snipers who went through all the trouble of finding and settling in an optimal spot. And I was a constant victim of snipers before I went into a hiatus. Anyone who asks for it is not honestly planning to use it to get better. They're just asking for it because they want targets handed to them on a silver platter without effort put into it. optimal spot? you meen on a roof/silo or redline? get real 90% or higher of the snipers are always in the redline Sorry to ask but what is a redline? I normally can go out to a sniper's position with a shotgun to deal with them, what is with all these tears I see about redliners? How long til this hits PC?


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