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Apocalyptic Destroyer
RestlessSpirits
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Posted - 2014.07.31 23:09:00 -
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My Grimsnes can stack 4700 Armor, yet can be easily taken out by an HMG. A Sica with 2000 Armor can laugh at that HMG. . Why ?
-Note, All you have to do is flux the dropship and take it out with a HMG.
~R1P
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Atiim
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
11142
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Posted - 2014.07.31 23:15:00 -
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Go home, your drunk.
Introducing 'Hotfix Charlie' Assault Dropships: New Eden's first line of SHAVs
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
12447
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Posted - 2014.07.31 23:16:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Go home, your drunk.
Yeah it sickens me to agree with Atiim but I think he is right on this one........ I don't think even if what you say is possible any ADSer would be stupid enough to sit in HMG optimal for long enough to get blapped.
"We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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Thumb Green
The Valyrian Guard
1186
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Posted - 2014.07.31 23:26:00 -
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It is possible, I've killed a few that way. They were already about dead and weren't that far away but I got the destruction and kill points for it; but they have to be pretty damn close for it to do noticeable damage. I think it's because DS's and LAV's are lightly armor vehicles (especially the DS since it's an aircraft) and a tank is a heavily armored vehicle. Logically a HMG should rip up a DS.
Kill Scotty
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Apocalyptic Destroyer
RestlessSpirits
30
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Posted - 2014.07.31 23:26:00 -
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I have an incubus, and in the map where alpha is in the complex with those weird looking pillars, you have to dive down in order to prevent any sort of hack. They flux you, then concentrate fire. Why doesn't it hurt tanks just as much as it does dropships ? I mean it's not like they're using different plates or anything.
~R1P
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Vitharr Foebane
Terminal Courtesy
Proficiency V.
1702
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Posted - 2014.07.31 23:27:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Atiim wrote:Go home, your drunk. Yeah it sickens me to agree with Atiim but I think he is right on this one........ I don't think even if what you say is possible any ADSer would be stupid enough to sit in HMG optimal for long enough to get blapped.
I've seen it happen and yes my HMG though it was quite tasty :3
Amarr: Assault V, Scout V, Sentinel V, Commando IV, Logistics IV
I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
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Vitharr Foebane
Terminal Courtesy
Proficiency V.
1703
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Posted - 2014.07.31 23:33:00 -
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Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote:I have an incubus, and in the map where alpha is in the complex with those weird looking pillars, you have to dive down in order to prevent any sort of hack. They flux you, then concentrate fire. Why doesn't it hurt tanks just as much as it does dropships ? I mean it's not like they're using different plates or anything.
It's based on type of vehicle HMG does way more damage to LAVs and DSs then HAVs still less then 100% though and it takes quite a while to do solo. If it seem like it was doing major damage it was most likely due to them aiming up on your weak point(rear thrusters)
Amarr: Assault V, Scout V, Sentinel V, Commando IV, Logistics IV
I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
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Apocalyptic Destroyer
RestlessSpirits
31
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Posted - 2014.07.31 23:35:00 -
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I feel the dropship should be given a slight buff just against an HMG given the HMG is not classified as AV, and the Dropship should then be classified as a Medium Armor Vehicles.
~R1P
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Bojo The Mighty
Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno
4816
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Posted - 2014.07.31 23:36:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Atiim wrote:Go home, your drunk. Yeah it sickens me to agree with Atiim but I think he is right on this one........ I don't think even if what you say is possible any ADSer would be stupid enough to sit in HMG optimal for long enough to get blapped.
Facepalm
Grimsnes is a dropship
But you're right who the **** hovers in HMG range
Just as long as the dice keep rollin, the hoes keep hoein, and the money keeps flowin!
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Bojo The Mighty
Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno
4816
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Posted - 2014.07.31 23:38:00 -
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Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote:My Grimsnes can stack 4700 Armor, yet can be easily taken out by an HMG. A Sica with 2000 Armor can laugh at that HMG. . Why ?
-Note, All you have to do is flux the dropship and take it out with a HMG.
CCP reasoning
Cuz it's bigger
For some reason the smaller your vehicle the more efficacy handheld weapons have against it. It should be flat because it just weakens the already weaker vehicles.
Just as long as the dice keep rollin, the hoes keep hoein, and the money keeps flowin!
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Apocalyptic Destroyer
RestlessSpirits
31
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Posted - 2014.07.31 23:39:00 -
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The HMG actually has a decent amount of range before dispersion.
~R1P
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Zindorak
1.U.P
205
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Posted - 2014.07.31 23:46:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Atiim wrote:Go home, your drunk.
Master of the Scrambler Pistol. Carthum Assault ScP <3
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Dauth Jenkins
Merc-0107
555
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Posted - 2014.08.01 04:45:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Atiim wrote:Go home, your drunk. Yeah it sickens me to agree with Atiim but I think he is right on this one........ I don't think even if what you say is possible any ADSer would be stupid enough to sit in HMG optimal for long enough to get blapped.
He must be running a full tank dropship, with no reps at all
-Sincerely
--The Dual Swarm Commando
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Reign Omega
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
704
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Posted - 2014.08.01 05:46:00 -
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Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote:I feel the dropship should be given a slight buff just against an HMG given the HMG is not classified as AV, and the Dropship should then be classified as a Medium Armor Vehicles.
I feel like a flying schoolbus should not be able to be slowly chipped down to nothing by a gun with a 50 meter effective range!
Pass the dutchie to the left hand side....
A display of sucking that rivals the highest amount of sucking that a player has displayed in the history of sucking.-JR
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Pvt Numnutz
Prophets of the Velocirapture
1733
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Posted - 2014.08.01 13:22:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Atiim wrote:Go home, your drunk. Yeah it sickens me to agree with Atiim but I think he is right on this one........ I don't think even if what you say is possible any ADSer would be stupid enough to sit in HMG optimal for long enough to get blapped.
He isn't an adser tho |
RYN0CER0S
Rise Of Old Dudes
759
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Posted - 2014.08.01 13:44:00 -
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Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote:I feel the dropship should be given a slight buff just against an HMG given the HMG is not classified as AV, and the Dropship should then be classified as a Medium Armor Vehicles.
Oh, one of those "it killed me once so we should find a reason to nerf it."
**** You.
People like you have ruined the ******* game.
You whining, entitled little fucks don't know how to handle a loss so you decide that whatever or whoever got you must be wrong.
Eat a bag of greasy dicks.
And again, **** you, you ***** ass little piece of ****.
Who farted?
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Zindorak
1.U.P
214
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Posted - 2014.08.01 15:01:00 -
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RYN0CER0S wrote:Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote:I feel the dropship should be given a slight buff just against an HMG given the HMG is not classified as AV, and the Dropship should then be classified as a Medium Armor Vehicles. Oh, one of those "it killed me once so we should find a reason to nerf it." **** You. People like you have ruined the ******* game. You whining, entitled little fucks don't know how to handle a loss so you decide that whatever or whoever got you must be wrong. Eat a bag of greasy dicks. And again, **** you, you ***** ass little piece of ****.
1+ People always try to find a way to blame things. Everyone has done it don't lie
Master of the Scrambler Pistol. Carthum Assault ScP <3
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Lanius Pulvis
SVER True Blood
Dark Taboo
329
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Posted - 2014.08.01 15:08:00 -
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RYN0CER0S wrote:Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote:I feel the dropship should be given a slight buff just against an HMG given the HMG is not classified as AV, and the Dropship should then be classified as a Medium Armor Vehicles. Oh, one of those "it killed me once so we should find a reason to nerf it." **** You. People like you have ruined the ******* game. You whining, entitled little fucks don't know how to handle a loss so you decide that whatever or whoever got you must be wrong. Eat a bag of greasy dicks. And again, **** you, you ***** ass little piece of ****.
I do believe that what my learned colleague is trying to say is "one incident does not a trend make". In order to assert the validity of your claim you must suffer silently through a particular circumstance for a goodly length of time in order to establish credibility. Only then should you come to the forums and pose a fact filled question to the community asking if this is an issue for anyone else. Sound out the court of public opinion before presenting an actual case for a proposed "buff" or "nerf".
I am of course paraphrasing...
Not new, just new to you.
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Apocalyptic Destroyer
RestlessSpirits
42
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Posted - 2014.08.01 17:30:00 -
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I've been dropshiping since the beginning of the game ? so it isn't one of those "Killed me once things" ? You ugly ****.
~R1P
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Derpty Derp
Dead Man's Game
Dark Taboo
237
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Posted - 2014.08.01 17:32:00 -
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If you don't have armour reps, you need to keep shields up against a hmg... It's not hard and well, the ship travels faster with reps rather than plates. |
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RYN0CER0S
Rise Of Old Dudes
769
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Posted - 2014.08.01 20:21:00 -
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Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote:I've been dropshiping since the beginning of the game ? so it isn't one of those "Killed me once things" ? You ugly ****.
Well then get good and stay out of range, smart guy.
Ugly? Maybe. I'm a dude, that's not of any concern to me, precious.
Who farted?
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Rusty Shallows
Caldari State
1990
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Posted - 2014.08.01 20:40:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Atiim wrote:Go home, your drunk. Yeah it sickens me to agree with Atiim but I think he is right on this one........ I don't think even if what you say is possible any ADSer would be stupid enough to sit in HMG optimal for long enough to get blapped.
*Whispers* Hey everybody. I think they are secretly lovers. Which is still better off than me and my sock puppet.
Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote:The HMG actually has a decent amount of range before dispersion.
If you really want to use that argument play up being able to fit the HMG sights completely on the Dropship.
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
2741
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Posted - 2014.08.02 00:17:00 -
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Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote:My Grimsnes can stack 4700 Armor, yet can be easily taken out by an HMG. A Sica with 2000 Armor can laugh at that HMG. . Why ?
-Note, All you have to do is flux the dropship and take it out with a HMG.
I was parked in my Gorgon with only a scanner under fire from an HMG, an AR, and a RR. I didn't go boom.
It was hilarious. I wish One Eyed King saw it. He was there that match. |
One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
3069
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Posted - 2014.08.02 00:31:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote:My Grimsnes can stack 4700 Armor, yet can be easily taken out by an HMG. A Sica with 2000 Armor can laugh at that HMG. . Why ?
-Note, All you have to do is flux the dropship and take it out with a HMG. I was parked in my Gorgon with only a scanner under fire from an HMG, an AR, and a RR. I didn't go boom. It was hilarious. I wish One Eyed King saw it. He was there that match.
I did not see that. I was probably trying to avoid you because you kept knifing me
This is how a minja feels
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Scheneighnay McBob
Cult of Gasai
5775
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Posted - 2014.08.02 00:43:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Go home, your drunk.
What about his drunk?
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Everything Dies
BIKINI BOTTOM BRIGADE
880
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Posted - 2014.08.02 03:19:00 -
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Yes, an HMG can be effective against dropships--just as with an LAV, flux grenade or two to take out the shields and then riddle the vehicle with bullets (laughing maniacally as you do so is optional, but recommended.)
And don't forget the bonus HMGs get to armor damage.
But in all reality, this shouldn't be a problem unless you're parking your dropship and doing laps around a building while letting someone sit there and plug away at your ship.
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Shouper of BHD
Better Hide R Die
304
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Posted - 2014.08.02 03:35:00 -
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the most common reason is resistance modules (you have none I assume since your HP tanking) but the other reason are the vehicles weak points that either add or subtract damage taken like an HAV front is stronger while its back is weak.
idk where a DS`s weak/strong points are but I`ve heard the buttom was the weak point but that was before the ADS if i remember correctly and might not be true, I`ve been a pilot for a long time but the question has never interested me to test. |
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