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Mathew LaBorde
The Generals
Anime Empire.
57
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Posted - 2014.07.29 18:07:00 -
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All in 1 class. I dont even have everything skilled up yet. How much does ur have? |
Atiim
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
11057
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Posted - 2014.07.29 18:09:00 -
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Mathew LaBorde wrote:How much does ur have?
Way too much.
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calvin b
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
1805
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Posted - 2014.07.29 18:16:00 -
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That is why scouts are a F***** joke. I can barely come close to your EhP unless sacrifice gear on my assault to make that much EhP. Its absolute BS. Like my Sig says remove cloak balance scouts and by balance I mean remove 1 low slot from Gal scout and 1 high slot from Cal scout then lower each of these two suits by 175 CPU and 60 PG and this should bring them back to balance. Without cloaks they do not need that much CPU/PG.
Remember scouts are recon not slayers, leave the assault part to assaults.
Closed Beta Vet and gave up on assault back to Heavy full time. Remove cloaks balance scouts.
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Mathew LaBorde
The Generals
Anime Empire.
57
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Posted - 2014.07.29 18:21:00 -
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But I love ice cream. This is my favorite flavor of the month by far!they won't fix anything until its too late. Besides. There's nothing to fix. |
Mathew LaBorde
The Generals
Anime Empire.
57
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Posted - 2014.07.29 18:23:00 -
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I'm sporting 550 on my adv scout. Its awesome. **** the assault and heavy classes. I kill em all regardless. |
LudiKure ninda
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
100
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Posted - 2014.07.29 18:26:00 -
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703 armour and 203 shields with pro nanohive and pro gun
Chasing FOTM since crome..
SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
2560
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Posted - 2014.07.29 18:35:00 -
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My commando have less.
PSN: ogamega
"Dust is full of communists who despise people with enough isk to buy expensive items"
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Everything Dies
BIKINI BOTTOM BRIGADE
860
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Posted - 2014.07.29 18:40:00 -
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My scout fittings range anywhere from 300 or so (kincat + uplink build for starting battles) to 700+ (Thales build and my injector/repper build that I'm starting to fool around with.) That's with advanced shields and plates, as I generally don't use proto gear outside of swarms.
Mike Patton is the greatest singer in music. Proof:
Listen
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Senator Snipe
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
Dark Taboo
178
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Posted - 2014.07.29 18:43:00 -
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hmph
My forge skills are unmatchable.
It's not that i lose battles, its just that sometimes i don't feel like winning them.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
3983
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Posted - 2014.07.29 18:44:00 -
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Mathew LaBorde wrote:All in 1 class. I dont even have everything skilled up yet. How much does ur have?
I wonder if the movement penalty for Plate could be made to be different for different frame sizes?
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Eruditus 920
Prodigy Ops
271
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Posted - 2014.07.29 18:47:00 -
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I don't put much HP on my scout because I am rarely seen and don't feel I need it. Speed, stamina, stealth.
If I am spotted then I have done something wrong.
Wisdom is what you gain after you need it.
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Rusty Shallows
Caldari State
1936
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Posted - 2014.07.29 19:01:00 -
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I'm more concerned about the Devs fixing Medium Frames. Being able to Light Assault in of itself isn't so bad so long as Mediums and Commnados can go Light Sentinel. Which they can't with the same efficiency.
Being able to cloak and Light Assault doesn't seem right. Cloaking should be a style of tanking not a stacking add-on. My personal concern is when something is done the Minmatar Scout will unfairly get nerfed. I'd rather any solutions pull the trouble makers inline rather than risk turning all Light Frames into a hard mode joke, again.
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Rusty Shallows
Caldari State
1936
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Posted - 2014.07.29 19:11:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:Mathew LaBorde wrote:All in 1 class. I dont even have everything skilled up yet. How much does ur have? I wonder if the movement penalty for Plate could be made to be different for different frame sizes?
Wouldn't it be spiffy of module groups mattered differently for Frame Classes? Lights are penalized on Hit Point buff mods, Heavies the same for Bionics, Mediums with anything more than two of the same module.
Problem with over stacking a module type on a Medium Frame forcing game nerfs solved. Sentinels not being able to easily bum-rush HMG range. Light Assaults being a choice with consequences.
An added bonus is if the extremes are gotten under control maybe Kin-Cats can get a review. They got the high fitting costs now because of previous abuse.
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Tebu Gan
Dem Durrty Boyz
General Tso's Alliance
1106
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Posted - 2014.07.29 19:14:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote:I'm more concerned about the Devs fixing Medium Frames. Being able to Light Assault in of itself isn't so bad so long as Mediums and Commnados can go Light Sentinel. Which they can't with the same efficiency.
Being able to cloak and Light Assault doesn't seem right. Cloaking should be a style of tanking not a stacking add-on. My personal concern is when something is done the Minmatar Scout will unfairly get nerfed. I'd rather any solutions pull the trouble makers inline rather than risk turning all Light Frames into a hard mode joke, again.
Yeah, I'm worried about my min scout. Thing barely has ANY HP. Certainly doesn't come close to the other scout types in eHP.
Tanks - Balancing Turrets
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Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
2064
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Posted - 2014.07.29 21:30:00 -
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calvin b wrote:That is why scouts are a F***** joke. I can barely come close to your EhP unless sacrifice gear on my assault to make that much EhP. Its absolute BS. Like my Sig says remove cloak balance scouts and by balance I mean remove 1 low slot from Gal scout and 1 high slot from Cal scout then lower each of these two suits by 175 CPU and 60 PG and this should bring them back to balance. Without cloaks they do not need that much CPU/PG.
Remember scouts are recon not slayers, leave the assault part to assaults.
I have 700 EHP on my standard CalSalt...
Then again, I have max'd armor, shield, and fitting skills.
Because you wanted to be something you're not.
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
7905
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Posted - 2014.07.29 21:50:00 -
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I have 522 HP on my proto Gallente scout with two damps. Comparatively, I have ~563 HP on my standard Min Assault.
King Thunderbolt is my number one fan.
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OP FOTM
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
200
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Posted - 2014.07.29 22:35:00 -
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if i choose gallente scout (hoping for assault buff instead) i will have zero HP modules. instead 2 precisions, 2 damps, 2 range. and I will see every single move you make before you make it. the HP will not save you from EWAR. 
Dust servers will be a ghost town on 09/09/14
Destiny kicks ass... Like Halo knocked up Mass Effect and gave birth
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OP FOTM
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
200
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Posted - 2014.07.29 22:36:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:I have 522 HP on my proto Gallente scout with two damps. Comparatively, I have ~563 HP on my standard Min Assault.
thats got to be the shittiest comparison ever patrick...
Dust servers will be a ghost town on 09/09/14
Destiny kicks ass... Like Halo knocked up Mass Effect and gave birth
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Cass Caul
37
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Posted - 2014.07.29 22:52:00 -
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You kids are ******* idiots. The "E" in EHP stands for "effective," that is not the same as "total."
242 Shield HP and 608 Armor HP is 850 HP, but effective HP depends on what class item you're using and what level proficiency the other player has.
850 total HP could be anywhere from 685 EHP against a Mass Driver with Proficiency V or it could be 923 EHP against Laser Rifles with Proficiency 0
If you can't keep up, shut up.
Math is easy, you're just stupid.
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OP FOTM
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
201
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Posted - 2014.07.29 22:58:00 -
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Cass Caul wrote:You kids are ******* idiots. The "E" in EHP stands for "effective," that is not the same as "total."
242 Shield HP and 608 Armor HP is 850 HP, but effective HP depends on what class item you're using and what level proficiency the other player has.
850 total HP could be anywhere from 685 EHP against a Mass Driver with Proficiency V or it could be 923 EHP against Laser Rifles with Proficiency 0
no. a bunch of forum idiots including the ones who make protofits.com call EHP the same thing as total HP
Dust servers will be a ghost town on 09/09/14
Destiny kicks ass... Like Halo knocked up Mass Effect and gave birth
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calvin b
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
1808
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Posted - 2014.07.29 22:58:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:calvin b wrote:That is why scouts are a F***** joke. I can barely come close to your EhP unless sacrifice gear on my assault to make that much EhP. Its absolute BS. Like my Sig says remove cloak balance scouts and by balance I mean remove 1 low slot from Gal scout and 1 high slot from Cal scout then lower each of these two suits by 175 CPU and 60 PG and this should bring them back to balance. Without cloaks they do not need that much CPU/PG.
Remember scouts are recon not slayers, leave the assault part to assaults. I have 700 EHP on my standard CalSalt... Then again, I have max'd armor, shield, and fitting skills.
Ya so do I but once you place all these items to make that 700 Ehp suit how much is left for gear? I can tell you its not much. On a Cal Assault you know and I know that our bonus lies in RR's or weapons in the same category. So if I was to equip a RR and a MAGSEC or Boltpistol I would have to use a very low skilled weapon for these weapons slots because they rely heavily on CPU and PG. The Cal assault needs more CPU and PG or reduce the CPU and PG on Rail technology, like the RR, BoltPistol, or Magsec.
Closed Beta Vet and gave up on assault back to Heavy full time. Remove cloaks balance scouts.
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Michael Arck
5037
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Posted - 2014.07.29 23:10:00 -
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I never cared for the epeen contest. And the horrors of my war angels shall jettison from their prison and cut your scout in half for its pestilence. The only way you may cease this fate is if you catch me off guard, while my back is turned. Other than that, your death is imminent.
Archistrategos
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
3004
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Posted - 2014.07.29 23:33:00 -
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Cass Caul wrote:You kids are ******* idiots. The "E" in EHP stands for "effective," that is not the same as "total."
242 Shield HP and 608 Armor HP is 850 HP, but effective HP depends on what class item you're using and what level proficiency the other player has.
850 total HP could be anywhere from 685 EHP against a Mass Driver with Proficiency V or it could be 923 EHP against Laser Rifles with Proficiency 0
I know I use this wrong, and I don't care.
This is how a minja feels
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
Gentlemen's.Club
4813
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Posted - 2014.07.30 00:13:00 -
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200+ shields
800+ armor
proto breach shotty
proto flaylock
GOML
Earn 500Mil
EVE 21 Day Trail
Chat Channel: Vik PC
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The Eristic
Dust 90210
592
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Posted - 2014.07.30 00:24:00 -
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I think my most tanked scout has maybe 300, thanks to a basic reactive plate. It's way more fun playing with kincats and damps and amps and energizers.
Reality is the original Rorschach.
Verily! So much for all that.
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Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1550
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Posted - 2014.07.30 00:28:00 -
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Less then 300 ehp because I am not a scrub. 
Fun > Realism
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
7909
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Posted - 2014.07.30 00:38:00 -
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OP FOTM wrote:Patrick57 wrote:I have 522 HP on my proto Gallente scout with two damps. Comparatively, I have ~563 HP on my standard Min Assault. thats got to be the shittiest comparison ever patrick...
Wutever n_n
King Thunderbolt is my number one fan.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
3382
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Posted - 2014.07.30 00:53:00 -
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A little less than half of yours.
Max skills, btw.
Shoot scout with yes...
- Ripley Riley
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Yeeeuuuupppp
uptown456
Dark Taboo
520
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Posted - 2014.07.30 01:43:00 -
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My scout gk.o has 160 shields and 750 armor #sweg
Rage Proficiency V
Mic status: Muted
I AM Insane With Horrible Intervals Of Sanity
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Mejt0
Made in Poland...
E-R-A
234
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Posted - 2014.07.30 02:33:00 -
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1. Read charlie updates. Assaults will have as many slots as logi after changes and way more cpu/pg.
2. Scout with only hp modules is bad, easy to ki-¦ and scan.
3. Calvin b.. read scouts description. They are for assasinations,infiltration etc.
-~-~-Caldari Loyalist-~-~-
Markiplier fan.
Hollywood Undead ,rocks.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
3988
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Posted - 2014.07.30 10:44:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:Mathew LaBorde wrote:All in 1 class. I dont even have everything skilled up yet. How much does ur have? I wonder if the movement penalty for Plate could be made to be different for different frame sizes? Wouldn't it be spiffy of module groups mattered differently for Frame Classes? Lights are penalized on Hit Point buff mods, Heavies the same for Bionics, Mediums with anything more than two of the same module. Problem with over stacking a module type on a Medium Frame forcing game nerfs solved. Sentinels not being able to easily bum-rush HMG range. Light Assaults being a choice with consequences. An added bonus is if the extremes are gotten under control maybe Kin-Cats can get a review. They got the high fitting costs now because of previous abuse.
Anything based on a percentage, such as Kin Cats is already effected by frame size. The speed boost a Kin Cat gives to a Sentinel is much lower than the speed boost a Kin Cat gives to a Scout, do to the difference in the base speed of the suit that is being modified.
The problem with Armor Plate is that it is not a percentage. It is a flat value, and that flat value is balanced for Medium Frame and Heavy Suits.
Putting Armor Plate on a Scout increases the ScoutGÇÖs health by a much higher percentage than it would for a medium frame or a Heavy, so the impact of that plate on the ScoutGÇÖs survivability is that much greater.
Now that I write this I realize that the movement penalty on plate is a percentage, so it probably has a higher impact on Scouts, so in that sense I guess the movement penalty for Plate does have different effects on different frame size.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Varoth Drac
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
196
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Posted - 2014.07.30 10:57:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:1. Read charlie updates. Assaults will have as many slots as logi after changes and way more cpu/pg.
2. Scout with only hp modules is bad, easy to ki-¦ and scan.
3. Calvin b.. read scouts description. They are for assasinations,infiltration etc.
Don't forget that assaults are likely to get +150 hp as well.
I despair at all these nerf scout threads as people clearly have little to no comprehension of the imminent changes.
CCP needs to hurry up and release Charlie as there is pretty much no point discussing balance until after it's released. Even then it will take at least a week for the "dust" to settle.
PS, I know it's off topic but heavies are getting the most minor of minor nerfs. I wish they would stop complaining about it. |
jonny battles
Battlefield Brawlers
6
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Posted - 2014.07.30 11:10:00 -
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That is crazy my total up on my advanced logo is 726 and my proto is 870 total hp
It was just that easy
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Sum1ne Else
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
1298
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Posted - 2014.07.30 11:24:00 -
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^ ALL OF THE ABOVE IS IRRELEVANT
...HMG KILLS ANYTHING IN 0.000001 seconds
Impressive? Longest PLC Kill - 151.8m
Logi mk.0 - Commando gk.0 - Scout gk.0 - Assault ak.0
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Mejt0
Made in Poland...
E-R-A
235
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Posted - 2014.07.30 11:51:00 -
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jonny battles wrote:That is crazy my total up on my advanced logo is 726 and my proto is 870 total hp
He just said how much his bad scout fit have hp.
Heavy can have 2k hp
Logi can have around 1,2k +
Assault 1k
And scout around 1k also.
Ps. Scouts stacks ferroscales.
Normal plates makes scouts slow as hell.
-~-~-Caldari Loyalist-~-~-
Markiplier fan.
Hollywood Undead ,rocks.
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Varoth Drac
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
196
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Posted - 2014.07.30 13:13:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:jonny battles wrote:That is crazy my total up on my advanced logo is 726 and my proto is 870 total hp He just said how much his bad scout fit have hp. Heavy can have 2k hp Logi can have around 1,2k + Assault 1k And scout around 1k also. Ps. Scouts stacks ferroscales. Normal plates makes scouts slow as hell.
Max assault hp 1262
Max scout hp 1027
So it's not really 1k for assault and scouts.
After Charlie add about 300hp to the assault. Sounds good to me, I just hope it doesn't make assaults OP. I'm looking forward to the slayers coming home to assault suits. They have been away since chrome.
Just so you know, using a proto Charlie min assault I can get nearly 800 hp, more speed than an Amarr scout, good stamina, similar shield regen to a scout, equal scan range to scouts, precision low enough to scan dampened mediums and heavies and low enough profile to avoid all scans except proto actives, gal and Amarr scouts and precision enhanced scouts. |
Rusty Shallows
Caldari State
1953
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Posted - 2014.07.30 17:20:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:1. Read charlie updates. Assaults will have as many slots as logi after changes and way more cpu/pg.
2. Scout with only hp modules is bad, easy to ki-¦ and scan.
snip
Aren't Assaults also getting an HP buff? Or has that been cancelled?
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1252
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Posted - 2014.07.30 17:56:00 -
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My cal scout runs around with about 400 HP if memory serves.
Brink tanked scouts are just lost assault players & hopefully Charlie will help them find their way home. |
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