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Malleus Malificorum
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Posted - 2014.07.28 19:44:00 -
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It's a bug, and people that exploit it should be punished. |
Malleus Malificorum
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Posted - 2014.07.28 20:22:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:Malleus Malificorum wrote:It's a bug, and people that exploit it should be punished. And how should people avoid it? As im aware you cant "unskill" your skilltree.
By simply not doing it? I have characters that have been skilled into things that were also susceptible to bugs that caused unfair advantages (like the weapon swap while hacking glitch with cloak that allowed you to run around cloaked and still use a weapon), I simply chose not to exploit them.
It's not hard to go "hey let's not be assholes who have 3 people with python/incubus level 5 in one dropship".
CCP didn't force you to spend the skillpoints to exploit the bug, nor do they force people all into one assault dropship. You are making a choice when you exploit and you should be punished for choosing to exploit a bug in order to gain an unfair advantage over others.
These things aren't abused by accident, don't try to pretend that they are. |
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Posted - 2014.07.30 06:03:00 -
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OP FOTM wrote:Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:It is something I would like to get fixed ASAP. It is an imbalance that we do not need. Listen Judge... I voted for you and everything but... The poor people who skilled into small turrets JUST for this... You're not going to shortchange them are you? At least take the PILOT'S SKILL AWAY from the turret AND NOT THE GUNNER'S. THAT would really be the ONLY fair way to do it...
emm kay wrote:Tebu Gan wrote:
Why doesn't EVERYONE do this!
forge guns. Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:It is something I would like to get fixed ASAP. It is an imbalance that we do not need. disagree completely. you have three pilots, each sunk 1-2m MINUMUM SP in order to even get this far. you plan to try to take it away? not only that, any person who can pick up a forge gun can shoot at a bird to make it run. that includes the MLT version. If two people picked up the MLT forge guns, you could down 3 people and a 500,000 ISK ship. when you're out numbered. this simply isn't fair to the dropshippers. not only that, you said yourself in YOUR videos that AV gets the first strive. and with a ship that had strength comprimises made to it, this is simply unfair.
You skilled into something you probably suspected wasn't working as intended. You can rot with those 'wasted skillpoints'. I have no sympathy for people who exploit to gain an unfair advantage over others. |
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Posted - 2014.07.30 17:24:00 -
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DontChimpOut wrote:Malleus Malificorum wrote:It's a bug, and people that exploit it should be punished. Not fair something can stack, no, only infantry is allowed to have useful skills.
I play more roles in this game than you're aware of, and skillstacking isn't intended or balanced. The devs themselves have stated its an unintended bug. Deal with it.
I've heard all sorts of absolutely insane defenses of it like 'WE'RE SO MUCH BETTER THAN THOSE ARROGANT SOLO PILOTS WHO JUST FLY SOLO AND FARM KILLS' - yep you exploit a bug to do the exact same thing.
In any match where a skill-stacked dropship exists, no other vehicles can exist in sky or on ground. A 'skillpoint investment' should never grant such an overwhelming advantage.
DontChimpOut wrote:OP FOTM wrote:Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:It is something I would like to get fixed ASAP. It is an imbalance that we do not need. Listen Judge... I voted for you and everything but... The poor people who skilled into small turrets JUST for this... You're not going to shortchange them are you? At least take the PILOT'S SKILL AWAY from the turret AND NOT THE GUNNER'S. THAT would really be the ONLY fair way to do it... Seems everybody on here is only about nerfing vehicles. That amount to another vehicle nerf.
Fixing something that wasn't working as intended and is giving the users an unbelievable advantage for exploiting it isn't a 'nerf', it's called a bugfix. |
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Posted - 2014.07.30 17:29:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:Malleus Malificorum wrote:The dark cloud wrote:Malleus Malificorum wrote:It's a bug, and people that exploit it should be punished. And how should people avoid it? As im aware you cant "unskill" your skilltree. By simply not doing it? I have characters that have been skilled into things that were also susceptible to bugs that caused unfair advantages (like the weapon swap while hacking glitch with cloak that allowed you to run around cloaked and still use a weapon), I simply chose not to exploit them. It's not hard to go "hey let's not be assholes who have 3 people with python/incubus level 5 in one dropship". CCP didn't force you to spend the skillpoints to exploit the bug, nor do they force people all into one assault dropship. You are making a choice when you exploit and you should be punished for choosing to exploit a bug in order to gain an unfair advantage over others. These things aren't abused by accident, don't try to pretend that they are. That is delusional rant to want their heads on poles like that. All those exploit examples you gave are entirely different as they are and need specific actions to enable the glitch. For example, do specific keystrokes, Manning a turret on a dropship... Is something turret is SUPPOSED to have.
To say that two friends who both happen to have ADS skills going tandem should be persecuted as exploiters...
Will not and should not happen.
If it's happening consistently, yes you should be punished for exploiting. I've been aware of this bug for as long as it's existed and I'm friends with other people who have high dropship skills and I have *never* used it, because its incredibly easy not to. As I said previously - exploitation of glitches doesn't happen by accident. |
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