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DontChimpOut
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.30 15:14:00 -
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Malleus Malificorum wrote:It's a bug, and people that exploit it should be punished. Not fair something can stack, no, only infantry is allowed to have useful skills. |
DontChimpOut
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.30 15:17:00 -
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Malleus Malificorum wrote:The dark cloud wrote:Malleus Malificorum wrote:It's a bug, and people that exploit it should be punished. And how should people avoid it? As im aware you cant "unskill" your skilltree. By simply not doing it? I have characters that have been skilled into things that were also susceptible to bugs that caused unfair advantages (like the weapon swap while hacking glitch with cloak that allowed you to run around cloaked and still use a weapon), I simply chose not to exploit them. It's not hard to go "hey let's not be assholes who have 3 people with python/incubus level 5 in one dropship". CCP didn't force you to spend the skillpoints to exploit the bug, nor do they force people all into one assault dropship. You are making a choice when you exploit and you should be punished for choosing to exploit a bug in order to gain an unfair advantage over others. These things aren't abused by accident, don't try to pretend that they are. That's like saying someone must be pulled over every 10 miles because they drive a Porsche or BMW. We can't know they're an experienced driver, so the police must pull them over often to make sure they're driving responsibly.
Do you have any idea how stupid that sounds? |
DontChimpOut
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.30 15:34:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:CCP made dropships a Giant ******* joke.
They are completely offensive based platforms.. like....WTF?
What part of assault dropship don't you understand? |
DontChimpOut
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.30 15:37:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Tebu Gan wrote:Ran into on in a match, and HOLY **** MAN. Those things are utterly insane. Spent most of the time in the redline (as that's the ONLY place you have a chance of shooting one when you are a lone tanker), ended up losing the tank to it eventually (actually another tank finally came up, he just got the killing blow).
Called in an ADS to see what this thing was all about, and was AMAZED at how the gunner instantly (all missiles left that launcher in less a second) destroyed my ADS. OP much?
Why doesn't EVERYONE do this! Because some of us have standards, chivalry and numerous other gentlemanly attributes that make us prefer a fair fight! LOL
Look at your posting history against vehicles. Do you give them a fair shake? |
DontChimpOut
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.30 15:42:00 -
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OP FOTM wrote:Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:It is something I would like to get fixed ASAP. It is an imbalance that we do not need. Listen Judge... I voted for you and everything but... The poor people who skilled into small turrets JUST for this... You're not going to shortchange them are you? At least take the PILOT'S SKILL AWAY from the turret AND NOT THE GUNNER'S. THAT would really be the ONLY fair way to do it... Seems everybody on here is only about nerfing vehicles. That amount to another vehicle nerf. |
DontChimpOut
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.30 15:50:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:WLR is much better than KDR matchmaking. No
Someone could by some cruel twist of fate, always be on a bad team. CCP's "matchmaking fix" lasted only a few weeks, because after that time, once again it was my one squad of 3 or 4 and all no-squad randoms vs at least 2 squads of 4 each. |
DontChimpOut
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.30 19:24:00 -
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Malleus Malificorum wrote:*incredible crying* So basically you want this to be Call of Duty in space by removing any teamwork, and putting everything on the exact same level. |
DontChimpOut
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.31 14:34:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:DontChimpOut wrote:Malleus Malificorum wrote:*incredible crying* So basically you want this to be Call of Duty in space by removing any teamwork, and putting everything on the exact same level. Spout more ad hominem about someone calling your crutch for what it is. Oh, and I wasn't aware that 'teamwork' was actually exploitation of bugs. What "crutch" are you talking about? |
DontChimpOut
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.31 14:36:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:White-Lion wrote:Tebu Gan wrote:In all honesty, yes it isn't skill stacking that should go. But those bonuses from skills do allow for some extreme DPS. More so then I think SHOULD be allowed.
Like I said though, I don't think there should be such a thing as skill stacking still. I think it would be better off based on a single player (Gunner or Pilot).
For example if it was based on the skills of the ADS pilot, then the gunners still receive a 50% ROF boost from the pilot for having the skill maxed.
On the other hand if it was based on the gunner skill, then it's up to the gunner to skill into the ADS tree to obtain the ROF bonus.
But I still maintain stacking between the 2 is a bit much. I still don't see the problem with keeping it the way it is. For using the "OP" teamwork, they sacrifice their ehp in order to gain dps, just like infantry, as well as losing troops on the ground. The problem with changing it, is that if 'teamworking' gets any worse, the more likely you will have just 3 separate pilots, which when it works efficiently, can be even worse than skill stacking is now. Exploiting a bug isn't 'teamwork'. Teamwork is telling your buddy there's an enemy to the left of him, or warning your teams tank that there's an enemy tank out of sight but it's coming around x point. Teamwork is "Can you hack the point while I watch your back". Teamwork is repping the heavy or picking someone up with a nanite injector. Teamwork is not "lets all skill into assault dropships - solely because they're probably not working as intended, and if we do so we can get a 30% damage damage buff and a 150% rate of fire buff, and anyone who hasn't done the same thing or has the integrity to not do something that seems fishy simply won't be able to compete". There is a big difference between 'teamwork' and 'bug exploitation' and it isn't subtle at all. Because you're the sole decider on what teamwork is and isn't.
Do us all a favor, go play Call of Duty and stop ruining this game. |
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