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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.07.28 10:46:00 -
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Common CCP it was by far the best mode dust ever had. We could put out contracts and set up on the spot battles..and the system was isk friendly it was a good mode for corps of all kinds..and I feel like dust really lost something great when you took them away
no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave
sometimes i run weak guns just to make pubstomping more of a challenge
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Jonny D Buelle
Mors Effera
248
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Posted - 2014.07.28 10:53:00 -
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I miss them too.
I remember when I first started, Corp Battles were more for bragging rights, and small corps could participate.
Legionhares Unite!
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Defy Gravity
467
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Posted - 2014.07.28 11:10:00 -
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We need a blue tag on this. I do not believe this has been addressed and it needs to on why it was taken out or why we cannot have it back. Please respond on the topic of corp battles!
Pokey Dravon for.... Oh never mind :.....(
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NanoCleric
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
165
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Posted - 2014.07.28 18:12:00 -
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This!
Been saying for a long time, taking them away killed a lot of fun in this game.
You can see how much fun we used to have CCP just by checking pyrex's old vid's. We'd try to land lav's on top of dropships from ramps, we'd have race's, we'd have 'friendly' battles where we didn't care about costs, where you could enjoy fighting your friends.
This is badly needed to be returned.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
2547
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Posted - 2014.07.28 18:18:00 -
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How do you suggest they implement this without a client-side update? |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
4062
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Posted - 2014.07.28 18:21:00 -
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Just make clone packs cheap. Like 5 million ISK.
Level 4 Forum Warrior Currently on a quest to get all suits to ADV (8 remaining)
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NanoCleric
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
168
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Posted - 2014.07.28 19:18:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:How do you suggest they implement this without a client-side update?
I still maintain they need a client update, ratatti has hinted that they may do one. So it's not totally ruled out.
Personally i can't see the game improving without one.. You can tweak and tweak but there's still some screwed up mechanics which need fixing.. aside from bringing back things like this. |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
2549
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Posted - 2014.07.28 19:20:00 -
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NanoCleric wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:How do you suggest they implement this without a client-side update? I still maintain they need a client update, ratatti has hinted that they may do one. So it's not totally ruled out. Personally i can't see the game improving without one.. You can tweak and tweak but there's still some screwed up mechanics which need fixing.. aside from bringing back things like this.
Unfortunately that's entirely up to CCP upper management and the finance department. Patches are expensive and CCP doesn't want to foot the bill. I doubt the dev team has any say in the matter. |
NanoCleric
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
168
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Posted - 2014.07.28 19:21:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Just make clone packs cheap. Like 5 million ISK.
This way you still need to own a district.. which sucks for those corps who just want to get out of the monotomy of the public matches, and corps who don't hold territory.
The nice thing about the corp battles previously was that you could just set up friendly battles between corps for 'fun'. So take out the money side of it.. hell.. i'd be fine if you don't earn any isk for the battles as you consider them as 'not competative'. People just want to mess around, play with their mates and against their mates. |
NanoCleric
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
168
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Posted - 2014.07.28 19:24:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:NanoCleric wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:How do you suggest they implement this without a client-side update? I still maintain they need a client update, ratatti has hinted that they may do one. So it's not totally ruled out. Personally i can't see the game improving without one.. You can tweak and tweak but there's still some screwed up mechanics which need fixing.. aside from bringing back things like this. Unfortunately that's entirely up to CCP upper management and the finance department. Patches are expensive and CCP doesn't want to foot the bill. I doubt the dev team has any say in the matter.
True enough, but it's still needed. If they intend to support Dust as they say they do.. then client patches should still be made and deployed. Otherwise it pretty much is a certified tombstone on it. Of course we all naturally assume that is the veiled subscript in their announcement of Legion anyway.. but if they say they will support it.. then at least leave it in more of a fun state to play. |
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
2551
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Posted - 2014.07.28 19:30:00 -
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NanoCleric wrote:
True enough, but it's still needed. If they intend to support Dust as they say they do.. then client patches should still be made and deployed. Otherwise it pretty much is a certified tombstone on it. Of course we all naturally assume that is the veiled subscript in their announcement of Legion anyway.. but if they say they will support it.. then at least leave it in more of a fun state to play.
That's my point, the "support they intend to do" probably doesn't include the cost of a client update. If anything they're keeping minimal support on Dust as not to completely kill the fanbase, and hope that the Aur sales keep rolling in to pay for the support we are getting.
Im not disagreeing that a patch would be fantastic, I'm just trying to be realistic. But who knows, they may surprise me. |
Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
2947
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Posted - 2014.07.28 19:33:00 -
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It has been explained many times before why this can't happen. The old corp battles system was actually the old Factional Warfare system, and isn't actually compatible with the game as it is right now. It's not just a client patch issue, it's a "they'd have to rewrite the whole game mode" issue, and unfortunately, that's well beyond the scope of DUST development right now.
The Planetary Conquest system now functions very similarly to corp battles once you have a district in it (several corps offer assistance with this, for free in many cases), since conquering districts is no longer worthwhile once you already have one.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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Atiim
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
11022
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Posted - 2014.07.28 21:15:00 -
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This will never happen in DUST 514, so can people stop with the spam?
And nothing of value was lost that day...
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NanoCleric
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
169
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Posted - 2014.07.28 21:24:00 -
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I certainly don't disagree with either of you, however.. CCP should be wanting Dust to remain attractive to still bring more people in or bring others back.
To this extent, another pass over development.. even if it takes a small team longer to do, it would be beneficial to CCP and their Dust Revenue to polish and refine it with features like this to attract more players. Frankly in it's current state.. there's a lot to be desired.
If indeed they adjusted the old corp battles to become the factional warfare battles.. then fair enough, a rewrite shouldn't be 'that' difficult nor time consuming.. if it means more resources in terms of servers, then fair enough.. that can take more effort. However the actual rewrite based on what we have, it could be added in codewise without too much of a problem so long as bandwidth and server resources can cope.
Yes finance is a restriction, yes what the exec's want is a limitation, yes it requires more man hours, yes the limited dev team size means fewer adjustments and wider milestones. Though it doesn't mean it's out of scope. If CCP were to realise they could change some systems, copy and paste others and then adjust and refine them, then they could really make the game a lot more fun to play and provide more means to cater for the hardcore and casual alike. It didn't live up to their promises, so the best thing they could do is leave it in a good enough attractive state for players of all ilk's to pick up and play and enjoy.
If they really decide not to invest the effort.. well then it's their loss and it's sad to see, but if they realise enough people do want these kind of changes then they have the ability to do a 180 and decide to go ahead with it.
Remember, CCP manage themselves, they are not bound by an external publisher who turns them down flat on their proposals.. Yes the same kind of decisions are discussed/argued upon internally.. but that just means it's a simpler procedure to change focus... as they've done on so many occasions previously to our woes.. on both eve and dust.
So while yes, it can be good to be realistic about the situation.. it's also good to realise what there 'may' be potential for too.. unless you just want to give up hope and drag your feet. There are still people out there who hope for better changes so that we can enjoy the game we want to enjoy even more.
We can only wait and see and voice our opinions and hope something which is said can trigger something internally which will spark a change. |
Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
2947
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Posted - 2014.07.28 21:52:00 -
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Like, if I tell you that there's like no chance of corp battles being ever brought back to DUST 514, that's like, something you can cash at the bank. It'd be more constructive to stick to things that are within the realm of possibility. Rehashing this topic is not.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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NanoCleric
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
173
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Posted - 2014.07.29 07:53:00 -
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lol, sorry soraya, but i've seen your posts in the past, i've seen your campaign, i've seen what your like.. if you tell me i can cash something at the bank.. i'm only going to smile and politely ignore you. You may have been elected, but i still think your the one of the weakest possible people to be in a position like that.
So granted, you'd love to shut people up about things like this, but sweet cheeks.. it ain't gonna happen. What's said has been said. The others in this post have made their points, i've made my points, you've made your points.. what's really left to say, you really need to stop trying to put everyone down thinking that what you say is somehow gospel.. Mate, your CPM, not a CCP employee.. it's down to them, and they can and do change their mind on things, quite dramaticly sometimes too. |
Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
167
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Posted - 2014.07.29 14:12:00 -
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it wasnt supposed to be isk friendly, it was supposed to be an isk sink and tied to eve and bragging rights about "our corp/alliance owns x systems! come at us bro!"
Logibro in training.
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
2955
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Posted - 2014.07.29 14:16:00 -
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Just trying to save you wasted keyboard presses, Nano. Literally nobody will take this thread seriously. It's like asking CCP to put Skirmish 1.0 back. Yes, we all want corp battles back. But it's just not happening.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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Larry Desmo
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
61
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Posted - 2014.07.29 18:19:00 -
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well we know wher you stand as community representative, at a way to tell ccp what we need and want. keep it up |
Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
50
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Posted - 2014.07.29 20:03:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:NanoCleric wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:How do you suggest they implement this without a client-side update? I still maintain they need a client update, ratatti has hinted that they may do one. So it's not totally ruled out. Personally i can't see the game improving without one.. You can tweak and tweak but there's still some screwed up mechanics which need fixing.. aside from bringing back things like this. Unfortunately that's entirely up to CCP upper management and the finance department. Patches are expensive and CCP doesn't want to foot the bill. I doubt the dev team has any say in the matter. I seriously doubt that patches are so expensive that CCP won't do another..they are not exactly hard pressed for cash when the run the giant cash cow that is eve....
I knew bringing back Corp battles would be hard but it would be more than worth it as it would greatly expand customer enjoyment
no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave
When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
4064
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Posted - 2014.07.29 20:04:00 -
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NanoCleric wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Just make clone packs cheap. Like 5 million ISK.
This way you still need to own a district.. which sucks for those corps who just want to get out of the monotomy of the public matches, and corps who don't hold territory. The nice thing about the corp battles previously was that you could just set up friendly battles between corps for 'fun'. So take out the money side of it.. hell.. i'd be fine if you don't earn any isk for the battles as you consider them as 'not competative'. People just want to mess around, play with their mates and against their mates.
You'd only need to attack someone with a district.
Level 4 Forum Warrior Currently on a quest to get all suits to ADV (8 remaining)
PSN: wbrom42
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
50
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Posted - 2014.07.29 20:08:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:NanoCleric wrote:[quote=Thor Odinson42]Just make clone packs cheap. Like 5 million ISK.
This way you still need to own a district.. which sucks for those corps who just want to get out of the monotomy of the public matches, and corps who don't hold territory. The nice thing about the corp battles previously was that you could just set up friendly battles between corps for 'fun'. So take out the money side of it.. hell.. i'd be fine if you don't earn any isk for the battles as you consider them as 'not competative'. People just want to mess around, play with their mates and against their mates.
You'd only need to attack someone with a district.
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pc is non comparable to Corp battle...cbs could be set up anytime..and on the spot at any cost...it was the best mode dust had ..they took it away to promote pc before they gave up on dust altogether...There is no reason not to patch it in
and every reason to patch it in.
no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave
When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
4064
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Posted - 2014.07.29 20:12:00 -
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NanoCleric wrote:Edit: Added the quote in, as it's a beaut ;) Soraya Xel wrote:Like, if I tell you that there's like no chance of corp battles being ever brought back to DUST 514, that's like, something you can cash at the bank. It'd be more constructive to stick to things that are within the realm of possibility. Rehashing this topic is not. lol, sorry soraya, but i've seen your posts in the past, i've seen your campaign, i've seen what your like.. if you tell me i can cash something at the bank.. i'm only going to smile and politely ignore you. You may have been elected, but i still think your the one of the weakest possible people to be in a position like that. So granted, you'd love to shut people up about things like this, but sweet cheeks.. it ain't gonna happen. What's said has been said. The others in this post have made their points, i've made my points, you've made your points.. what's really left to say, you really need to stop trying to put everyone down thinking that what you say is somehow gospel.. Mate, your CPM, not a CCP employee.. it's down to them, and they can and do change their mind on things, quite dramaticly sometimes too.
CCP didn't think team deploy was important before they announced they'd no longer be developing Dust. It doesn't even sound like it's going to be a thing in Legion.
My schlong is more likely to grow to 12" than Dust getting crop battles back.
Level 4 Forum Warrior Currently on a quest to get all suits to ADV (8 remaining)
PSN: wbrom42
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taxi bastard
jihad taxi co.
161
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Posted - 2014.07.29 20:49:00 -
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i might actually find a reason not to play solo and join a half decent corp if they did.
until then i am continuing my on going mission to GG at knifing - been trying not to use guns lately to keep my interest and the sad thing is i am still top or near the top without uplinks and using NK as my main weapon. |
CEOPyrex CloneA
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
847
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Posted - 2014.07.29 20:54:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Like, if I tell you that there's like no chance of corp battles being ever brought back to DUST 514, that's like, something you can cash at the bank. It'd be more constructive to stick to things that are within the realm of possibility. Rehashing this topic is not.
Did CCP say this? are you relaying something CCP have told you? if this is your own opinions, you may want to be careful with this kind of sweeping statement. just fyi. |
Larry Desmo
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
63
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Posted - 2014.07.29 21:28:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:NanoCleric wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Just make clone packs cheap. Like 5 million ISK.
This way you still need to own a district.. which sucks for those corps who just want to get out of the monotomy of the public matches, and corps who don't hold territory. The nice thing about the corp battles previously was that you could just set up friendly battles between corps for 'fun'. So take out the money side of it.. hell.. i'd be fine if you don't earn any isk for the battles as you consider them as 'not competative'. People just want to mess around, play with their mates and against their mates. You'd only need to attack someone with a district. yeah and wait several hours, part of the reason why pc isnt popular is because of the ridiculous timer between battles, no one wans to wait 24 hours or more to attack someone. the current mechanics of pc is part of the reason why dust itself has a horrible npe because hardly even 2% of the veterans even do pc.f |
Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
2958
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Posted - 2014.07.30 01:33:00 -
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CEOPyrex CloneA wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Like, if I tell you that there's like no chance of corp battles being ever brought back to DUST 514, that's like, something you can cash at the bank. It'd be more constructive to stick to things that are within the realm of possibility. Rehashing this topic is not. Did CCP say this? are you relaying something CCP have told you? if this is your own opinions, you may want to be careful with this kind of sweeping statement. just fyi.
They've said it publicly a few different times, if I recall. CPM0 members have also basically said it too. And we also know that it's way way beyond the scope of simple fixes and hotfixes and such.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
53
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Posted - 2014.07.30 11:11:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:CEOPyrex CloneA wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Like, if I tell you that there's like no chance of corp battles being ever brought back to DUST 514, that's like, something you can cash at the bank. It'd be more constructive to stick to things that are within the realm of possibility. Rehashing this topic is not. Did CCP say this? are you relaying something CCP have told you? if this is your own opinions, you may want to be careful with this kind of sweeping statement. just fyi. They've said it publicly a few different times, if I recall. CPM0 members have also basically said it too. And we also know that it's way way beyond the scope of simple fixes and hotfixes and such. If you recall? I am far from a forum warrior alt (I don't remember this)..but ide like a little more response and surety in that response. Hopefully people's continued post of support for one of the best things they ever took away from dust. Brings a blue tagged response
no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave
When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
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Larry Desmo
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
65
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Posted - 2014.07.30 18:24:00 -
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if this game is truly not going to have any effect on the galaxy of new eden why isnt pc scrapped and a beter system pt in its place? a system that is not bound by owning territory that has no meaning, a system that lets us players customize the time, place, surface infrastructure, number of players, and a wager of isk to set the price of gear to be used, all within an hour or less of posting the request for a wager battle? it would be way more simple than the current crap ass pc system. |
Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
56
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Posted - 2014.07.30 19:30:00 -
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Larry Desmo wrote:if this game is truly not going to have any effect on the galaxy of new eden why isnt pc scrapped and a beter system pt in its place? a system that is not bound by owning territory that has no meaning, a system that lets us players customize the time, place, surface infrastructure, number of players, and a wager of isk to set the price of gear to be used, all within an hour or less of posting the request for a wager battle? it would be way more simple than the current crap ass pc system. What u describe is core battles from closed beta and I agree completely scrap pc bring back cb
no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave
When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
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