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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2014.07.28 01:29:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Atiim wrote:No, they simply won't do it because it's not automated, meaning that they have to go to every person one by one and refund their skills (which is too time intensive for 3-4 people), and because they want you to feel as if you need boosters to make up for that "wasted" SP.
- It's not manual. They most likely have a script that they run that unallocates everyone's SP, but even a script would take hours (days) to run. They would then have to handle any errors or exceptions that fell out of the automated process; which is annoying and just generates support tickets for an already overworked, and under staffed, team.
- Yes, no respecs promotes booster sales. The possibility to generate some AUR income and use Dust 514 as a testing ground for legion is the only reason this game continues to "live" in it's current form.
The script is very manual and has to be crafted every time and so far CCP has YET to successfully deploy a respec that didn't screw someone over. Either way it consumes net team's time rather significantly who are more busy with getting backbones for Legion.
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Posted - 2014.07.28 02:09:00 -
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ladwar wrote:
see i knew it. since dust left beta they have been making legion. thats why dust is in the state it currently is in now. and you have been withholding this from community. i have you to blame for this.
Legion did not start development until about this year.
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Posted - 2014.07.28 13:29:00 -
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Happy Violentime wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Atiim wrote:No, they simply won't do it because it's not automated, meaning that they have to go to every person one by one and refund their skills (which is too time intensive for 3-4 people), and because they want you to feel as if you need boosters to make up for that "wasted" SP.
- It's not manual. They most likely have a script that they run that unallocates everyone's SP, but even a script would take hours (days) to run. They would then have to handle any errors or exceptions that fell out of the automated process; which is annoying and just generates support tickets for an already overworked, and under staffed, team.
- Yes, no respecs promotes booster sales. The possibility to generate some AUR income and use Dust 514 as a testing ground for legion is the only reason this game continues to "live" in it's current form.
The script is very manual and has to be crafted every time and so far CCP has YET to successfully deploy a respec that didn't screw someone over. Either way it consumes net team's time rather significantly who are more busy with getting backbones for Legion. 'The script is very manual' LOL best piece of wrong you have ever typed.
Then you write it up. Dogma doesn't like playing nice with what you'd think would be the logical way of doing things.
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Posted - 2014.07.28 22:35:00 -
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buzzzzzzz killllllllll wrote:
IWS, simple question: do you know what a script is, how it works, and what it does?
Did you know that the scripts executed to do refunds and respecs are not perfect and have missed accounts on several occasions? Or there had been the event where the script erroneously gave more than it should? Despite that both accounts held near exact conditions for script targeting one player had the alteration while the other did not. Hence why there are still yellow pills in distribution and players inventories; Sagaris, and many other things that were supposed to have been removed. Some of the issues took months to resolve fully; some are still unresolved today (I still have my yellow pills)
Logistically and politically it is something CCP does not want to waste time doing.I have a far better chance at getting Tiericide pushed through than another respec at this very moment.
Time wise I rather get charlie delta and echo up and running first.
At least for legion it will be tooled into the game at least so we don't have to deal with script nightmares anymore.
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Posted - 2014.07.29 00:07:00 -
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Luna McDuffing wrote:Scripts perse are not super difficult to write. Maybe a little time consuming but in the difficulty scale then not among the most brain intensive programming task. I mean when compare to other more intensive programing activities. The real pain in the butt is testing said script. You write something that seems to work perfectly but, once it gets to the "floor" as I call it that is when all the real problems shows up. Testing is a specialty all on its own and is a very tricky very time consuming endeavor.
I am in agreement; In theory it shouldn't but something is going on to break theory and the plain reality is still is that a script for respecs are a massive pain in the posterior. Yes they do test and do dry runs ahead of the script runs but that doesn't seem to catch everyone.
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Posted - 2014.07.29 00:09:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:
Mainly because the Core mechanics to DUST is there any script related problems in this game.
From the netcode.. To the way DUST's Proxy servers communicate with Tranquility.. To simple hit detection and Aiming mechanics.
This game is a rat nest of inexperience....
Seriously what about Legion is gonna be different? Same Game engine.... Same group of people who created endless broken imbalanced features after endless broken imbalanced features..
The maps that where shown where the Exact same maps and sockets designed years ago.. Just with a texture pack, more solid FPS and higher fidelity. Pretty much the same game we where shown in 2010.
If your argument your thinking of now is how Big Legion is gonna be and the possible Open world sandbox nature... Seriously?
If CCP can't even get this small concept of a Lobby shooter to work in over a year of tweaking and fixing.. HOW THE HELL CAN THEY DO IT in a game that is 50x more ambitious.
People don't change much, and CCP Shanghai changed like none of those people... Didn't change the game engine.. Hasn't been promoting how they are writing cutting edge net code to allow for 200-300 player fights with minimal latency issues.
All we are getting is the same o'l by a Developing team that actively screwed over their loyal customers more times then anyone can count.
You may believe a pack of well known Liars. I However, will not be so naive.
Someone missed the memo.
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