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Shooter Somewhere SINISTER DEATH SQUAD 0	Posted - 2014.07.27 23:31:00 - [1] - Quote Because they simply don't have to. Now after all the hotfixes are done from Charlie-Zelda for all we know they might give out a full respec everyone since everyone has been affected one way or another but we will find out. HEADSHOT! HEADSHOT!! HEADSHOT!!! HEADSHOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=earCbU6vgAo
Atiim Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 10991	Posted - 2014.07.27 23:40:00 - [2] - Quote No, they simply won't do it because it's not automated, meaning that they have to go to every person one by one and refund their skills (which is too time intensive for 3-4 people), and because they want you to feel as if you need boosters to make up for that "wasted" SP. I can almost guarantee that there won't be another respec, beyond correcting a glitch. And nothing of value was lost that day... -HAND
Immortal John Ripper 22717	Posted - 2014.07.27 23:40:00 - [3] - Quote CCP will give out respecs once I decide to approve them for it. You want one? convince me, not CCP minions. Only I can master the 4 races and bring balance to this galaxy - GJR The Last Clone bender Skype: John_Ripper5150
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 3736	Posted - 2014.07.27 23:41:00 - [4] - Quote Because Logibro eats babys for breakfast. New shield module!
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 2259	Posted - 2014.07.27 23:48:00 - [5] - Quote Atiim wrote: No, they simply won't do it because it's not automated, meaning that they have to go to every person one by one and refund their skills (which is too time intensive for 3-4 people), and because they want you to feel as if you need boosters to make up for that "wasted" SP. It's not manual. They most likely have a script that they run that unallocates everyone's SP, but even a script would take hours (days) to run. They would then have to handle any errors or exceptions that fell out of the automated process; which is annoying and just generates support tickets for an already overworked, and under staffed, team. Yes, no respecs promotes booster sales. The possibility to generate some AUR income and use Dust 514 as a testing ground for legion is the only reason this game continues to "live" in it's current form. He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
Vulpes Dolosus Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1771	Posted - 2014.07.28 00:03:00 - [6] - Quote Technically, CCP is giving the Cal/Amarr scouts a respec(ialization), redefining their roles and allGÇª
Miokai Zahou The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 355	Posted - 2014.07.28 00:15:00 - [7] - Quote Only FOTM chasers are asking for respecs which all I have to say is "HAHAHA... no. Now go grind some skill points you slack bastards. " Noob isn't really a status, it's the online equivalent of a 5-year old calling you a poopy fart head.
danie braz Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 57	Posted - 2014.07.28 00:26:00 - [8] - Quote Shooter Somewhere wrote: Because they simply don't have to. Now after all the hotfixes are done from Charlie-Zelda for all we know they might give out a full respec everyone since everyone has been affected one way or another but we will find out. Respec is earned not given!! Fluoride uranium carbon potassium bismuth technetium helium sulfur germanium thulium Molybdenum neon yttrium
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16014	Posted - 2014.07.28 01:29:00 - [9] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Atiim wrote: No, they simply won't do it because it's not automated, meaning that they have to go to every person one by one and refund their skills (which is too time intensive for 3-4 people), and because they want you to feel as if you need boosters to make up for that "wasted" SP. It's not manual. They most likely have a script that they run that unallocates everyone's SP, but even a script would take hours (days) to run. They would then have to handle any errors or exceptions that fell out of the automated process; which is annoying and just generates support tickets for an already overworked, and under staffed, team. Yes, no respecs promotes booster sales. The possibility to generate some AUR income and use Dust 514 as a testing ground for legion is the only reason this game continues to "live" in it's current form. The script is very manual and has to be crafted every time and so far CCP has YET to successfully deploy a respec that didn't screw someone over. Either way it consumes net team's time rather significantly who are more busy with getting backbones for Legion. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Minmatar Sentinel =// Unlocked
mollerz 4386	Posted - 2014.07.28 01:31:00 - [10] - Quote IWS- You talk about scripts like it's some kind of magic fairy dust. Scripts are seriously easy stuff my man. Not everyone is the layman you know. Dingle Dust Berry.

JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 131	Posted - 2014.07.28 01:36:00 - [11] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Atiim wrote: No, they simply won't do it because it's not automated, meaning that they have to go to every person one by one and refund their skills (which is too time intensive for 3-4 people), and because they want you to feel as if you need boosters to make up for that "wasted" SP. It's not manual. They most likely have a script that they run that unallocates everyone's SP, but even a script would take hours (days) to run. They would then have to handle any errors or exceptions that fell out of the automated process; which is annoying and just generates support tickets for an already overworked, and under staffed, team. Yes, no respecs promotes booster sales. The possibility to generate some AUR income and use Dust 514 as a testing ground for legion is the only reason this game continues to "live" in it's current form. The script is very manual and has to be crafted every time and so far CCP has YET to successfully deploy a respec that didn't screw someone over. Either way it consumes net team's time rather significantly who are more busy with getting backbones for Legion. They should have implemented mags respec system them... Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song evar.
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 3738	Posted - 2014.07.28 01:43:00 - [12] - Quote Yeah like a token system. Every time CCP makes a big change to the game they hand out 1 respec token. And then the players can decide if they want to use that token or not. New shield module!
Atiim Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 10995	Posted - 2014.07.28 01:58:00 - [13] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: Because Logibro eats babys for breakfast. CCP Logibro is King Kobrah? And nothing of value was lost that day... -HAND
ladwar HEARTS OF PHOENIX 2025	Posted - 2014.07.28 02:01:00 - [14] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Atiim wrote: No, they simply won't do it because it's not automated, meaning that they have to go to every person one by one and refund their skills (which is too time intensive for 3-4 people), and because they want you to feel as if you need boosters to make up for that "wasted" SP. It's not manual. They most likely have a script that they run that unallocates everyone's SP, but even a script would take hours (days) to run. They would then have to handle any errors or exceptions that fell out of the automated process; which is annoying and just generates support tickets for an already overworked, and under staffed, team. Yes, no respecs promotes booster sales. The possibility to generate some AUR income and use Dust 514 as a testing ground for legion is the only reason this game continues to "live" in it's current form. The script is very manual and has to be crafted every time and so far CCP has YET to successfully deploy a respec that didn't screw someone over. Either way it consumes net team's time rather significantly who are more busy with getting backbones for Legion. see i knew it. since dust left beta they have been making legion. thats why dust is in the state it currently is in now. and you have been withholding this from community. i have you to blame for this. Level 2 Forum Warrior, bitter vet. I shall smite Thy Trolls with numbers and truth doing reviews in free time, want 1?
Scheneighnay McBob Cult of Gasai 5749	Posted - 2014.07.28 02:08:00 - [15] - Quote There's no reason for a respec, even after hotfix Zulu (if it gets that far) The only reason CCP would give a respec is if they added minmatar and amarr vehicles, which isn't happening in Dust. pé¦pâ+pé¦pâ½pâäpâ¬pâ¦pé¦pâ¼pâ+pâêpü»sñ¬S+ïpéè
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16015	Posted - 2014.07.28 02:09:00 - [16] - Quote ladwar wrote: see i knew it. since dust left beta they have been making legion. thats why dust is in the state it currently is in now. and you have been withholding this from community. i have you to blame for this. Legion did not start development until about this year. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Minmatar Sentinel =// Unlocked
mollerz 4389	Posted - 2014.07.28 02:42:00 - [17] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: ladwar wrote: see i knew it. since dust left beta they have been making legion. thats why dust is in the state it currently is in now. and you have been withholding this from community. i have you to blame for this. Legion did not start development until about this year. true. confirmed by the sheer amount of turnover in their employees. Dingle Dust Berry.
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 3739	Posted - 2014.07.28 03:43:00 - [18] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: ladwar wrote: see i knew it. since dust left beta they have been making legion. thats why dust is in the state it currently is in now. and you have been withholding this from community. i have you to blame for this. Legion did not start development until about this year. Funny enough is that CCP had the balls to show that at the "DUST514 KEYNOTE". And im not buying that they "only started" this year. For that the game looks too much evolved. Light effects, map design, sound, graphics and enviroment seem to be longer in development then just since "this year". New shield module!
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8927	Posted - 2014.07.28 04:45:00 - [19] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: ladwar wrote: see i knew it. since dust left beta they have been making legion. thats why dust is in the state it currently is in now. and you have been withholding this from community. i have you to blame for this. Legion did not start development until about this year. Funny enough is that CCP had the balls to show that at the "DUST514 KEYNOTE". And im not buying that they "only started" this year. For that the game looks too much evolved. Light effects, map design, sound, graphics and enviroment seem to be longer in development then just since "this year". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_GRjNL7l40#t=512 CCP Rouge said it was in development for the "past few months" prior to Fanfest 2014 which was on April this year. That meant Legion was in development since at least February if "few months" meant 3 months. That's about long enough then to create a live demo as portrayed here especially given that Dust served as the basis for Legion using the exact same Unreal Engine 3 only heavily modified. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Syeven Reed G0DS AM0NG MEN 789	Posted - 2014.07.28 07:16:00 - [20] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: ladwar wrote: see i knew it. since dust left beta they have been making legion. thats why dust is in the state it currently is in now. and you have been withholding this from community. i have you to blame for this. Legion did not start development until about this year. Funny enough is that CCP had the balls to show that at the "DUST514 KEYNOTE". And im not buying that they "only started" this year. For that the game looks too much evolved. Light effects, map design, sound, graphics and environment seem to be longer in development then just since "this year". Id hazard a guess that everything that was created for Dust from day one, had a Legion counterpart created. But its only "this year" as IWS says that they have had an 'entire' team dedicated to it. Word Crimes

Thurak1 Psygod9 867	Posted - 2014.07.28 07:25:00 - [21] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: ladwar wrote: see i knew it. since dust left beta they have been making legion. thats why dust is in the state it currently is in now. and you have been withholding this from community. i have you to blame for this. Legion did not start development until about this year. Funny enough is that CCP had the balls to show that at the "DUST514 KEYNOTE". And im not buying that they "only started" this year. For that the game looks too much evolved. Light effects, map design, sound, graphics and enviroment seem to be longer in development then just since "this year". Its not that hard to copy and paste. I mean really they are using the Unreal 3 engine again.
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 1528	Posted - 2014.07.28 07:38:00 - [22] - Quote Atiim wrote: No, they simply won't do it because it's not automated, meaning that they have to go to every person one by one and refund their skills (which is too time intensive for 3-4 people), and because they want you to feel as if you need boosters to make up for that "wasted" SP. I can almost guarantee that there won't be another respec, beyond correcting a glitch. you are implying they are not able to run a script ? no wonder this game is dead.
Happy Violentime OMFGZOMBIESRUN 743	Posted - 2014.07.28 09:20:00 - [23] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Atiim wrote: No, they simply won't do it because it's not automated, meaning that they have to go to every person one by one and refund their skills (which is too time intensive for 3-4 people), and because they want you to feel as if you need boosters to make up for that "wasted" SP. It's not manual. They most likely have a script that they run that unallocates everyone's SP, but even a script would take hours (days) to run. They would then have to handle any errors or exceptions that fell out of the automated process; which is annoying and just generates support tickets for an already overworked, and under staffed, team. Yes, no respecs promotes booster sales. The possibility to generate some AUR income and use Dust 514 as a testing ground for legion is the only reason this game continues to "live" in it's current form. The script is very manual and has to be crafted every time and so far CCP has YET to successfully deploy a respec that didn't screw someone over. Either way it consumes net team's time rather significantly who are more busy with getting backbones for Legion. 'The script is very manual' LOL best piece of wrong you have ever typed.
Bad Heal Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dark Taboo 138	Posted - 2014.07.28 11:28:00 - [24] - Quote I still can't believe they used us like this. I had forgotten how mad they made me. I hope legion fails hard
BlazeXYZ xCosmic Voidx Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 61	Posted - 2014.07.28 12:55:00 - [25] - Quote When all the hotfixes are done, which means there will be no further improvements to the game other than bug fixes and everything seems balanced then it would be logical to give a final respec. The Blazing Intellect Machine
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16019	Posted - 2014.07.28 13:29:00 - [26] - Quote Happy Violentime wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Atiim wrote: No, they simply won't do it because it's not automated, meaning that they have to go to every person one by one and refund their skills (which is too time intensive for 3-4 people), and because they want you to feel as if you need boosters to make up for that "wasted" SP. It's not manual. They most likely have a script that they run that unallocates everyone's SP, but even a script would take hours (days) to run. They would then have to handle any errors or exceptions that fell out of the automated process; which is annoying and just generates support tickets for an already overworked, and under staffed, team. Yes, no respecs promotes booster sales. The possibility to generate some AUR income and use Dust 514 as a testing ground for legion is the only reason this game continues to "live" in it's current form. The script is very manual and has to be crafted every time and so far CCP has YET to successfully deploy a respec that didn't screw someone over. Either way it consumes net team's time rather significantly who are more busy with getting backbones for Legion. 'The script is very manual' LOL best piece of wrong you have ever typed. Then you write it up. Dogma doesn't like playing nice with what you'd think would be the logical way of doing things. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Minmatar Sentinel =// Unlocked
buzzzzzzz killllllllll Sacred Initiative of Combat Killers IMMORTAL REGIME 638	Posted - 2014.07.28 15:20:00 - [27] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Happy Violentime wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Atiim wrote: No, they simply won't do it because it's not automated, meaning that they have to go to every person one by one and refund their skills (which is too time intensive for 3-4 people), and because they want you to feel as if you need boosters to make up for that "wasted" SP. It's not manual. They most likely have a script that they run that unallocates everyone's SP, but even a script would take hours (days) to run. They would then have to handle any errors or exceptions that fell out of the automated process; which is annoying and just generates support tickets for an already overworked, and under staffed, team. Yes, no respecs promotes booster sales. The possibility to generate some AUR income and use Dust 514 as a testing ground for legion is the only reason this game continues to "live" in it's current form. The script is very manual and has to be crafted every time and so far CCP has YET to successfully deploy a respec that didn't screw someone over. Either way it consumes net team's time rather significantly who are more busy with getting backbones for Legion. 'The script is very manual' LOL best piece of wrong you have ever typed. Then you write it up. Dogma doesn't like playing nice with what you'd think would be the logical way of doing things. IWS, simple question: do you know what a script is, how it works, and what it does?
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16027	Posted - 2014.07.28 22:35:00 - [28] - Quote buzzzzzzz killllllllll wrote: IWS, simple question: do you know what a script is, how it works, and what it does? Did you know that the scripts executed to do refunds and respecs are not perfect and have missed accounts on several occasions? Or there had been the event where the script erroneously gave more than it should? Despite that both accounts held near exact conditions for script targeting one player had the alteration while the other did not. Hence why there are still yellow pills in distribution and players inventories; Sagaris, and many other things that were supposed to have been removed. Some of the issues took months to resolve fully; some are still unresolved today (I still have my yellow pills) Logistically and politically it is something CCP does not want to waste time doing.I have a far better chance at getting Tiericide pushed through than another respec at this very moment. Time wise I rather get charlie delta and echo up and running first. At least for legion it will be tooled into the game at least so we don't have to deal with script nightmares anymore. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Minmatar Sentinel =// Unlocked
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance 2302	Posted - 2014.07.28 22:49:00 - [29] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: buzzzzzzz killllllllll wrote: IWS, simple question: do you know what a script is, how it works, and what it does? Did you know that the scripts executed to do refunds and respecs are not perfect and have missed accounts on several occasions? Or there had been the event where the script erroneously gave more than it should? Despite that both accounts held near exact conditions for script targeting one player had the alteration while the other did not. Hence why there are still yellow pills in distribution and players inventories; Sagaris, and many other things that were supposed to have been removed. Some of the issues took months to resolve fully; some are still unresolved today (I still have my yellow pills) Logistically and politically it is something CCP does not want to waste time doing.I have a far better chance at getting Tiericide pushed through than another respec at this very moment. Time wise I rather get charlie delta and echo up and running first. At least for legion it will be tooled into the game at least so we don't have to deal with script nightmares anymore. Mainly because the Core mechanics to DUST is there any script related problems in this game. From the netcode.. To the way DUST's Proxy servers communicate with Tranquility.. To simple hit detection and Aiming mechanics. This game is a rat nest of inexperience.... Seriously what about Legion is gonna be different? Same Game engine.... Same group of people who created endless broken imbalanced features after endless broken imbalanced features.. The maps that where shown where the Exact same maps and sockets designed years ago.. Just with a texture pack, more solid FPS and higher fidelity. Pretty much the same game we where shown in 2010. If your argument your thinking of now is how Big Legion is gonna be and the possible Open world sandbox nature... Seriously? If CCP can't even get this small concept of a Lobby shooter to work in over a year of tweaking and fixing.. HOW THE HELL CAN THEY DO IT in a game that is 50x more ambitious. People don't change much, and CCP Shanghai changed like none of those people... Didn't change the game engine.. Hasn't been promoting how they are writing cutting edge net code to allow for 200-300 player fights with minimal latency issues. All we are getting is the same o'l by a Developing team that actively screwed over their loyal customers more times then anyone can count. You may believe a pack of well known Liars. I However, will not be so naive.
Michael Arck 5025	Posted - 2014.07.28 22:55:00 - [30] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: buzzzzzzz killllllllll wrote: IWS, simple question: do you know what a script is, how it works, and what it does? Did you know that the scripts executed to do refunds and respecs are not perfect and have missed accounts on several occasions? Or there had been the event where the script erroneously gave more than it should? Despite that both accounts held near exact conditions for script targeting one player had the alteration while the other did not. Hence why there are still yellow pills in distribution and players inventories; Sagaris, and many other things that were supposed to have been removed. Some of the issues took months to resolve fully; some are still unresolved today (I still have my yellow pills) Logistically and politically it is something CCP does not want to waste time doing.I have a far better chance at getting Tiericide pushed through than another respec at this very moment. Time wise I rather get charlie delta and echo up and running first. At least for legion it will be tooled into the game at least so we don't have to deal with script nightmares anymore. LOL! owned Archistrategos *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain*



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