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4.) Make it so when HMG is fired, the HMG aim can only be adjusted slowly (rotation on heavy suit reduces to a 50% normal rate)

Sir Dukey please stop talking.

(I posted this in another thread (in brackets below, the rest is just for context). I'll post it here too for good measure.)

#25Posted: 2014.07.26 19:36 | Report
Thurak1 wrote:
emm kay wrote:
Nocturnal Soul wrote:
Remote explosive

I've tried this, and i do not know how people do it. I always get frustraded because i have no clue how to do it. I toss my explosive like a frisbee and press the det button. 1/2 the animation plays and no boom. I was expecting an earth shattering kaboom! Not to mention sentinels can already tank res so there's that...

Sentinals do not have enough hps to tank a RE.
I have been killed many times by these annoying frisbee's myself.


[Amen to this! Remotes have wrecked my plans many times. Even when I see them, I'm too slow to put distance between me and it. Cloaked shotguns have taken me out. Peekaboo tactics, even in close quarters, have done me in.

I've been out ranged by rail rifles, scrambler rifles, assault rifles, combat rifles, laser rifles, sniper rifles, potato rifles, spitball rifles, and any other rifle CCP has decided to throw into this game. I've even been out damaged by SMGs within my effective HMG range on a few occasions (go figure that one). Flux and shoot players have gotten me. Locus and shoot players have gotten me. Mass drivers have gotten me. Nova knives have gotten me. I've succumb to the Scrambler pistol dance of death, the MagSec two shot tango, the Flaylock BS barrage (back in its day)... etc, etc, etc...

I'm a level 5 (across the board) dedicated heavy. I do some other things, but heavy is my raison d'etre. I've been a heavy since I started this game over a year ago. I was a heavy when heavies weren't cool. And Dust is my first ever FPS, so admittedly I'm not as good as some others who have more FPS experience. I've been killed a lot of ways: some I understand, some still baffle me (I just chalk those confusing deaths up to bad game mechanics and move on). I'm not complaining about that...

...Though what I am saying with all of the above is: if you haven't found an effective way to outdo a heavy, have you tried turning your Playstation on? Myriad fatty slaying options open up to you once that little green light shines. Many good players have demonstrated this fact on me time and time again.]

They were well balanced mostly because the HMG was well balanced. What went wrong?

I'll tell ya what went wrong!!!
The HMG in Chromosome has 2000 rpm and same dmg as now and it was perfectly good and really well balanced

The HMG now has 2400 rpm, and same damage as chromosome. So, why the extra 400 rpm?? Why?

The HMG now is OP no matter what you argue. There is literally no counter to heavies with in 30m range other than scout with SG(It doesn't work half the time since the heavy can just turn around in a second and zap you with the death ray disseminating you within .2 seconds). RE don't work as well either because some can tank them and their death ray kills you faster than the RE can be activated.

Now, most of you know that most of the objectives on most maps are CQC and since there no counter to these 2000 ehp guys with death rays just makes them super OP.


Suggestion that wont ruin Heavies job.

1.) Reduce HMG Optimal from 25m to 17.5m. This will keep the heavies potency within CQC but make it so it's easier to kill them with range. A weapon with that much range on a suit with that much HP just makes it OP

2.) Take away HMG headshot damage multiplier, it's way too easy to get head shots with HMG. When I use HMG, I find my self geting more head shot kills than with any other weapon . The headshot multiplier just takes that 800 DMG per second and makes it go through the roof.

3.) reduce RPM from 2400 to the Chromosome 2000. The 400rpm was unnecessary.



Now before you forum scubs tell me to- use shoot them from far, tell me what I am suppose to do to counter these guys in a CQC map. Scout and SG (doesn't work half the time). RE's (doesn't work half the time).

The only counter to something should never be its self.

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4.) Make it so when HMG is fired, the HMG aim can only be adjusted slowly (rotation on heavy suit reduces to a 50% normal rate)

Where did the heavy touch you?

I can't kill it so I want it nerfed.

This is gonna sound crazy but ill say it anyway...
why dont you wait until the effects of hot fix charlie are felt. IE the cpu/pg reductions, HMG heatup rate increase, and proto HMG range nerf.

P.S. On a side note, do you complain when killed by a LR user wielding his weapon in the proper manner, at 90-104 meters on wide open no cover areas. Why do people blame the HMG users for fighting where their weapon is most effective...

This and RPM reduction to 2000 would balance it IMHO

The HMG was near useless in Chromosome. I remember being able to get up close and dance around them like it was nothing. I had absolutely no fear of heavies back then cause all you had to do was soften them up with a grenade and then strafe around a bit while shooting them.

Ehh that was uprising 1.0 through 1.7... chromosome heavies rocked

you are a terrible heavy

I've noticed good heavy players don't die to remotes, which is good. Maybe hotfix Charlie will help, I am saving SP for my own sentinel suit though , but it sucks to fight fire with fire

Heavies in chromosome where not fine...did you even play chromosome? Do you recall sharpshooter? Or how suits strafed faster than the heavy could pivot...back when if that tiny dot wasn't on the enemy you did no damage? At least now the "heavies are for suppression" argument is valid now.