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SgtMajSquish MLBJ
Consolidated Dust
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Posted - 2014.07.26 05:38:00 -
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I, and probably many other people, am wondering why CPM1 was even elected seeing as Dust will be ending (or so everyone says). The games I played a couple days ago consisted of the same people over and over. Not that the matches were bad, but started to get repetitive. I haven't seen any squads of the 'BIG' corps lately, unless they are doing their grind immediately at SP reset. My biggest issue isn't the game itself, or its fate, but the fact that everyone is clueless as to what is going on. Version numbers have become hotfixes, and for some strange reason even though everyone is threatening to leave, the EVE-Offline numbers for Dust haven't seemed to change.
This is all really just a drawn out way of asking the devs: What is your plan? We would really like to know what is going on. Has Legion even been greenlit yet as I havent seen anything? Or is this going to turn into another fruitless waiting game, the same way we waited for you guys to fix dust.
I'll see you guys on Legion when the Steambox is released
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Syeven Reed
G0DS AM0NG MEN
784
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Posted - 2014.07.26 07:36:00 -
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Even IF dust ends, which i don't think it will, CPM1 will continue to work on Legion.
Word Crimes
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Thurak1
Psygod9
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Posted - 2014.07.26 07:43:00 -
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People will continue to abuse the ability to create and biomass clones for isk for as long as the servers are online so i dont expect those numbers to change greatly for a very long time. |
sabre prime
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
300
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Posted - 2014.07.26 08:36:00 -
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Syeven Reed wrote:Even IF dust ends, which i don't think it will, CPM1 will continue to work on Legion.
I thought CPM1 was not going to be involved in Legion?
Desperate attempt to get BPOs
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Judge Rhadamanthus
Amarr Templar One
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Posted - 2014.07.26 09:03:00 -
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sabre prime wrote:I thought CPM1 was not going to be involved in Legion?
CPM1s main focus will be DUST. It was however stated by CCP that their will be "limited involvement " in legion. I shall try to find the post for you. Ill paste it here if I find it.
But DUST is here now, and my focus is on it. We all play it and it is what matters to all of us right now.
Email Me [email protected]
Twitter @Judge_EVELegion
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
2889
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Posted - 2014.07.26 09:05:00 -
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I-¦m curious to see what work you (the CPM) will actually do.
There can-¦t be much to do, when CCP isn-¦t even allowed to change the client code?
Sure, number tweaks, but yeah.. when that is "done", what will you and CCP do?
"The DUST 514 Dev Team is not reduced or affected by the restructuring at CCP."
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Judge Rhadamanthus
Amarr Templar One
2590
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Posted - 2014.07.26 09:14:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:I-¦m curious to see what work you (the CPM) will actually do.
There can-¦t be much to do, when CCP isn-¦t even allowed to change the client code?
Sure, number tweaks, but yeah.. when that is "done", what will you and CCP do?
They can change the client code. Rattati stated it was a possibility.
CCP Rattati wrote:It is also a factor of low hanging fruits versus the "recook" issue. Basically, some content like textures requires a recook of assets, which leads to everyone needing to download the whole client again, sometimes partially but sometimes the whole X GB the client is.
We can do it, but there are many things I would like to tweak/fix before we bother the playerbase with a full client re-download.
If the content gets created, by either the DUST 514 or Legion team, we can push it out.
Link to quote
Email Me [email protected]
Twitter @Judge_EVELegion
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
4528
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Posted - 2014.07.26 10:21:00 -
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Confirming that even CPM1 doesn't know why CPM1 exists. |
Immortal John Ripper
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Posted - 2014.07.26 12:00:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Confirming that even CPM1 doesn't know why CPM1 exists.
They are my minions.
Only I can master the 4 races and bring balance to this galaxy - GJR The Last Clone bender
I am the Alpha and the Omega
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Jimmy Slapnuts
Krullefor Organization
Minmatar Republic
82
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Posted - 2014.07.26 12:00:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Confirming that even CPM1 doesn't know why CPM1 exists.
Just like that little pedestrian button at intersections, CPM1's purpose is to provide the illusion of control, to make the players believe that their input is important, and that they are part of the "process".
No offence to the newest members, but I expect that the CCP Devs will continue to do whatever they want (read: whatever management TELLS them to do) regardless of CPM1's input or opinions, just like they always have.
Fanfest pretty much proved that CPM has very little (if any) influence on CCP's decision-making process. |
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General John Ripper
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Posted - 2014.07.26 12:00:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Confirming that even CPM1 doesn't know why CPM1 exists.
They are my minions.
Only I can master the 4 races and bring balance to this galaxy - GJR The Last Clone bender
Skype: John_Ripper5150
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
2935
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Posted - 2014.07.26 12:39:00 -
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Jimmy, if anything, that's why we're here. To continue to evolve and improve the relationship between CCP, the CPM, and the players. So that they value and integrate our feedback more than they have previously.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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ladwar
HEARTS OF PHOENIX
2016
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Posted - 2014.07.26 14:33:00 -
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CPM0 wasn't necessary.... i hate IWS.
Level 2 Forum Warrior, bitter vet.
I shall smite Thy Trolls with numbers and truth
doing reviews in free time, want 1?
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ReGnYuM
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
Dark Taboo
3122
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Posted - 2014.07.26 16:33:00 -
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My real concern, is rather the CPM1 can be considered Legitimate based on a voting turn out below 20%. Especially when the CPM is not even in an enforcing position, but rather mediation.
Its a valid concern.
The Pathway to Hell, is paved with good intentions
Total Molden Heath Domination Imminent: 97.51% Complete
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Jimmy Slapnuts
Krullefor Organization
Minmatar Republic
82
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Posted - 2014.07.26 16:38:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Jimmy, if anything, that's why we're here. To continue to evolve and improve the relationship between CCP, the CPM, and the players. So that they value and integrate our feedback more than they have previously.
Good luck with that.
(and I'm only being half-sarcastic when I say that, btw  )
Again, no offence to you or the other CPM. I'm sure most of you mean well and have good intentions, and I hope you are more successful than the previous bunch but, given the current state of things with Dust and CCP's (lack of) commitment to it's future, I just don't believe that the CPM as an entity is anything more than a way to keep the remaining players somewhat happy while the game slowly dies. |
RYN0CER0S
Rise Of Old Dudes
652
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Posted - 2014.07.26 17:01:00 -
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The CPM is probably 2x the size of the remaining Dust Dev Team.
They're OP!!!!
Who farted?
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
3680
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Posted - 2014.07.26 17:54:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:My real concern, is rather the CPM1 can be considered Legitimate based on a voting turn out below 20%. Especially when the CPM is not even in an enforcing position, but rather mediation.
Its a valid concern.
The CSM for eve operates with only about 8% voter turnout with no legitimacy concerns.
B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA
They call me ~Princess Zatata~
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Jimmy Slapnuts
Krullefor Organization
Minmatar Republic
83
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Posted - 2014.07.26 19:21:00 -
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RYN0CER0S wrote:The CPM is probably 2x the size of the remaining Dust Dev Team.
They're OP!!!!
If not more (I have a theory that Rattati is the ONLY one still working on Dust at all, from a dark, damp, basement office illuminated by a single, bare 60 watt bulb that hangs from the ceiling, that he shares with last year's Christmas decorations and assorted out-of-date files stored in cardboard boxes). |
One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
2933
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Posted - 2014.07.26 19:24:00 -
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Jimmy Slapnuts wrote:RYN0CER0S wrote:The CPM is probably 2x the size of the remaining Dust Dev Team.
They're OP!!!! If not more (I have a theory that Rattati is the ONLY one still working on Dust at all, from a dark, damp, basement office illuminated by a single, bare 60 watt bulb that hangs from the ceiling, that he shares with last year's Christmas decorations and assorted out-of-date files stored in cardboard boxes).
That's only because everyone keeps calling Logibro Rattati. Logibro is still working on it too it seems, he is just less visible on the forums.
This is how a minja feels
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Jimmy Slapnuts
Krullefor Organization
Minmatar Republic
83
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Posted - 2014.07.26 19:28:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Jimmy Slapnuts wrote:RYN0CER0S wrote:The CPM is probably 2x the size of the remaining Dust Dev Team.
They're OP!!!! If not more (I have a theory that Rattati is the ONLY one still working on Dust at all, from a dark, damp, basement office illuminated by a single, bare 60 watt bulb that hangs from the ceiling, that he shares with last year's Christmas decorations and assorted out-of-date files stored in cardboard boxes). That's only because everyone keeps calling Logibro Rattati. Logibro is still working on it too it seems, he is just less visible on the forums.
Nice to know he's got someone to talk to down there, I guess. |
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SgtMajSquish MLBJ
Consolidated Dust
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Posted - 2014.07.27 07:47:00 -
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I have seen otherwise in regards to CPM involvement in legion. It would be nice to have a dev clear some of these things up
I'll see you guys on Legion when the Steambox is released
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
12265
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Posted - 2014.07.27 08:14:00 -
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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:They can change the client code. Rattati stated it was a possibility. CCP Rattati wrote:It is also a factor of low hanging fruits versus the "recook" issue. Basically, some content like textures requires a recook of assets, which leads to everyone needing to download the whole client again, sometimes partially but sometimes the whole X GB the client is.
We can do it, but there are many things I would like to tweak/fix before we bother the playerbase with a full client re-download.
If the content gets created, by either the DUST 514 or Legion team, we can push it out.
Link to quote
Confirms nothing and promises everything...... welcome to CPM1 Judge...... you just proved you earnt your place there.....
"Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon
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The-DON of-DOT-MAFIA
The DOT MAFIA
47
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Posted - 2014.07.27 11:41:00 -
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Green lighting is the "double focusing" of the laser through a KTP crystal and emits in the sub ultraviolet spectrum.
We all should know by now that a laser cannot be focused through dust. |
Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
2890
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Posted - 2014.07.27 14:38:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:My real concern, is rather the CPM1 can be considered Legitimate based on a voting turn out below 20%. Especially when the CPM is not even in an enforcing position, but rather mediation.
Its a valid concern.
Isn't it obvious? CCP is stat-padding their concurrent player statistics somehow... 
Think of it like this ReGnYuM: High voting turnout, in a dieing game (<1000 max concurrent players).
"The DUST 514 Dev Team is not reduced or affected by the restructuring at CCP."
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