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MythTanker
Haus of Triage
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Posted - 2014.07.25 23:05:00 -
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This upcoming Fix is nothing to worry about. Just sit back and see what happens. If you are a true heavy and not a FOTM chaser this should be no problem. You only need to worry if after Hotfix charlie if more nerfs are still being brought up on the forums, If so thats the time to get vocal (in a constructive way, not illiterate gutter speak)
The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his -George S. Patton
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
2523
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Posted - 2014.07.25 23:10:00 -
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I'm looking forward to the changes, it'll make things interesting and let me try out some things I couldn't do before.
Balance is an ongoing process, and things will always change, best to keep an open mind and roll with the punches. Hell, EVE Is over 11 years old now and they're still constantly getting balance fixes. |
MythTanker
Haus of Triage
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Posted - 2014.07.25 23:12:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:I'm looking forward to the changes, it'll make things interesting and let me try out some things I couldn't do before.
Balance is an ongoing process, and things will always change, best to keep an open mind and roll with the punches. Hell, EVE Is over 11 years old now and they're still constantly getting balance fixes.
I understand but surely you know the difference between a fix and the overused Nerf/Buff cycle
The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his -George S. Patton
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Rusty Shallows
Caldari State
1913
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Posted - 2014.07.26 00:01:00 -
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*patently waits for the Commando players to tear the O.P. A new one for lumping them with Sentinels*
Forums > Game: So here is a cookie and a Like. Please keep posting.
Bwahahahahahahahahahaha! >>> GòÜ(GÇóGîéGÇó)Gò¥ >>>
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Izlare Lenix
Vengeance Unbound
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.07.26 00:07:00 -
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EVE/Dust has gone through and will continue to go through meta changes. It is the only way to keep a long term game fresh, otherwise it would get old and boring fast.
EVE had gone through so many changes I can't remember them all. But the changes forced you to adapt to the new play style and try to figure out how to make things work with new changes. This constant change is why EVE had remained so strong for 11+ years. Nothing ever gets old.
The changes in the Dust side haven't worked as well as on the EVE side but I think that is because there are so few options in Dust. Hopefully with Legion, we will have new suits, new roles and new vehicles. Just more of everything for a more dynamic battlefield.
Gun control is not about guns...it's about control.
The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
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RYN0CER0S
Rise Of Old Dudes
641
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Posted - 2014.07.26 00:15:00 -
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I did just fine when we had "laser focused" HMGs.
They can't nerf me enough to make me whine like these little, entitled softies do in every post.
Especially the ******* crybaby ass Scouts who have been the most vocal about making the game cater to them since Uprising.
PSN: The_Rynoceros
Console Master Race
"It's better to burn out, than fade away." ~Def Leppard
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buzzzzzzz killllllllll
Sacred Initiative of Combat Killers
IMMORTAL REGIME
623
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Posted - 2014.07.26 00:54:00 -
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if they nerfed me to 300 health it would still be better than the days when a logi could almost run around a heavy and beat them with any weapon, including a sniper rifle, in close quarters |
Vitharr Foebane
Terminal Courtesy
Proficiency V.
1654
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Posted - 2014.07.26 01:19:00 -
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Been a heavy since closed beta don't intend to stop now...
Amarr: Assault V, Scout V, Sentinel V, Commando IV, Logistics IV
I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
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Arcturis Vanguard
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
Dark Taboo
218
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Posted - 2014.07.26 05:42:00 -
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The only thing I'm not really excited.about is my new slot layout for amarr. I didn't skill into sentinel when it was first released as the amarr because of the 1h/4L and didn't go gallente because of the same layout. Now I'm stuck with a crap layout for AV purposes but I guess I will be focusing on finishing calsent for AV.
Amarr Heavy V
Amarr Assault V
Caldari Scout V
Caldari logistic IV
Prof V HMG & FORGE
Prof IV CR, SMG
Prof III ScR
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Thurak1
Psygod9
847
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Posted - 2014.07.26 06:04:00 -
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Balance would come about faster if CCP didnt nerf and boost in the same patch. |
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HowDidThatTaste
Ancient Exiles.
General Tso's Alliance
5157
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Posted - 2014.07.26 06:09:00 -
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buzzzzzzz killllllllll wrote:if they nerfed me to 300 health it would still be better than the days when a logi could almost run around a heavy and beat them with any weapon, including a sniper rifle, in close quarters
I call you out as a scout?
We call that Meta. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.07.26 07:54:00 -
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Right, because a PG/CPU change so minor that you go from being able to fit all complex modules to... Being able to fit all complex modules is a major nerf.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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Vitharr Foebane
Terminal Courtesy
Proficiency V.
1654
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Posted - 2014.07.26 07:55:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Right, because a PG/CPU change so minor that you go from being able to fit all complex modules to... Being able to fit all complex modules is a major nerf.
maybe you havent seen the numbers, but that is honestly no longer possible
Amarr: Assault V, Scout V, Sentinel V, Commando IV, Logistics IV
I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
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Mejt0
Made in Poland...
E-R-A
224
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Posted - 2014.07.26 08:06:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Right, because a PG/CPU change so minor that you go from being able to fit all complex modules to... Being able to fit all complex modules is a major nerf. maybe you havent seen the numbers, but that is honestly no longer possible
And thats it.
If somone wants proto guns, then some modules/eq must be adv/std.
And in reverse. Adv gun gives you egnouth space to fit some more complex stuff.
Learn to chose, you cant have all at once.
-~-~-Caldari Loyalist-~-~-
Markiplier fan.
Hollywood Undead ,rocks.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
15471
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Posted - 2014.07.26 08:45:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Right, because a PG/CPU change so minor that you go from being able to fit all complex modules to... Being able to fit all complex modules is a major nerf. maybe you havent seen the numbers, but that is honestly no longer possible
I have seen the numbers and it's entirely possible. Not on all suits and not if you're doing something stupid like full energizers but it's entirely possible, especially with the heavy weapon fitting reduction.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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Zhenechka Zivonencia
Vengeance Unbound
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.07.26 09:11:00 -
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Nothing is wrong with heavies. People just dule them the wrong way. Im a heavy and we get torn up my the right people that dont charge us straight up. Quit messing with suita and fix the damb lag! |
boba's fetta
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
783
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Posted - 2014.07.26 11:44:00 -
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Zhenechka Zivonencia wrote:Nothing is wrong with heavies. People just dule them the wrong way. Im a heavy and we get torn up my the right people that dont charge us straight up. Quit messing with suita and fix the damb lag!
there is something wrong when so many are on the field. the heavy suit should only be ran by a few people each match
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Syeven Reed
G0DS AM0NG MEN
784
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Posted - 2014.07.26 11:56:00 -
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Zhenechka Zivonencia wrote:Nothing is wrong with heavies. People just dule them the wrong way. Im a heavy and we get torn up my the right people that dont charge us straight up. Quit messing with suita and fix the damb lag!
It's the problem when they have the range of a rail rifle on a 1200ehp suit. This "nerf" should simply make heaves play the way they were intended without restricting them out of using light weapons.
Word Crimes
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
2536
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Posted - 2014.07.26 12:28:00 -
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My only concern is about cal senitnel + forge, i use only assault forge and there is only ADV assault forge, so in my STD fit i need that low slot, idk if my fit will still be valid.
PSN: ogamega
"Dust is full of communists who despise people with enough isk to buy expensive items"
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Gelan Corbaine
Gladiators Vanguard
470
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Posted - 2014.07.26 13:59:00 -
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As long as I can Kinkat my MinSen I am happy ..... No Kinkat ....No happy .
No job is worth doing if you don't get paid in the end .
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
3310
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Posted - 2014.07.26 14:00:00 -
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RYN0CER0S wrote:
Especially the ******* crybaby ass Scouts who have been the most vocal about making the game cater to them since Uprising.
Do you honestly believe this?
Shoot scout with yes...
- Ripley Riley
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MythTanker
Haus of Triage
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Posted - 2014.07.26 18:41:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:RYN0CER0S wrote:
Especially the ******* crybaby ass Scouts who have been the most vocal about making the game cater to them since Uprising.
Do you honestly believe this?
If you add FOTM to that scout word, then it is true.
The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his -George S. Patton
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MythTanker
Haus of Triage
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Posted - 2014.07.26 18:44:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Right, because a PG/CPU change so minor that you go from being able to fit all complex modules to... Being able to fit all complex modules is a major nerf.
Thats why i called it a fix sorry if i didnt clarify
The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his -George S. Patton
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MythTanker
Haus of Triage
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Posted - 2014.07.26 18:46:00 -
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boba's fetta wrote:Zhenechka Zivonencia wrote:Nothing is wrong with heavies. People just dule them the wrong way. Im a heavy and we get torn up my the right people that dont charge us straight up. Quit messing with suita and fix the damb lag! there is something wrong when so many are on the field. the heavy suit should only be ran by a few people each match
Fix the assault... Problem solved
The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his -George S. Patton
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Apison Valusgeffen
X Death Before Dishonour X
43
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Posted - 2014.07.27 01:11:00 -
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Thurak1 wrote:Balance would come about faster if CCP didnt nerf and boost in the same patch.
+1 I have never understood that!!! Like when they nerfed AV and buffed tanks at the same time: hello Militia Tank Spam 514: What was that about?!???!!!
"You shot who in the what now?"
- Jasper Beardly, The Simpsons: Season 7 - Episode 1 Circa 1995
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J0hlss0n
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
169
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Posted - 2014.07.27 09:30:00 -
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Gelan Corbaine wrote:As long as I can Kinkat my MinSen I am happy ..... No Kinkat ....No happy .
Amen. |
Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
3313
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Posted - 2014.07.27 12:33:00 -
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MythTanker wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:RYN0CER0S wrote:
Especially the ******* crybaby ass Scouts who have been the most vocal about making the game cater to them since Uprising.
Do you honestly believe this? If you add FOTM to that scout word, then it is true.
Scouts ...
knew they had problems.
pointed out the problems.
recognized spam as confirmation of problems.
proposed a number of nerfs to fix the problem.
Heavies ...
?
Shoot scout with yes...
- Ripley Riley
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
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Posted - 2014.07.27 15:44:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:MythTanker wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:RYN0CER0S wrote:
Especially the ******* crybaby ass Scouts who have been the most vocal about making the game cater to them since Uprising.
Do you honestly believe this? If you add FOTM to that scout word, then it is true. Scouts ... knew they had problems. pointed out the problems. recognized spam as confirmation of problems. proposed a number of nerfs to fix the problem. Heavies ... ?
I have seen a couple heavies recently acknowledge issues, especially with regards to CPU/PG per available slot, but much like reasonable tankers, they are few and far between.
This is how a minja feels
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Cornballs Get Stonewalled
968
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Posted - 2014.07.27 15:44:00 -
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Zhenechka Zivonencia wrote:Nothing is wrong with heavies. People just dule them the wrong way. Im a heavy and we get torn up by the right people that dont charge us straight up. Quit messing with suits and fix the damb lag!
This needs a thousand likes .
You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
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MythTanker
Haus of Triage
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Posted - 2014.07.27 16:32:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:MythTanker wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:RYN0CER0S wrote:
Especially the ******* crybaby ass Scouts who have been the most vocal about making the game cater to them since Uprising.
Do you honestly believe this? If you add FOTM to that scout word, then it is true. Scouts ... knew they had problems. pointed out the problems. recognized spam as confirmation of problems. proposed a number of nerfs to fix the problem. Heavies ... ?
Your right SCOUTS have, FOTM scouts have not.
Same goes for HEAVIES (if you read my OP you will see that) FOTM heavies are complaining just like FOTM scouts. I detect a bit of bias.
The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his -George S. Patton
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