At first I didn't like this idea, but the more I think about it, the more I think this is the way to fix both the Scout and the Assault classes

This is the perfect example why I don't usually read the forums....
There will always be some dumb idea out there waiting.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."

I feel the same way about this as I do Logistics. Scouts are for all intensive purposes a support class, much like Logistics. Granted they are probably more combat focused than Logistics, but support nonetheless. Indirect Combat should be part of the 'Support' Role, or in the Scout's case using speed and stealth to attack enemies from the flank or behind, rather than head on like a Heavy or Assault might.

That being said, reducing the Logistics or Scouts to Sidearm Only severely gimps them in that role of combat support, thus reducing the usefulness of their overall role on the battlefield. You might have a case if you wanted to remove their sidearm like the Logistics, but I feel removing their light weapon is a really poor idea.

Don't get me wrong, I think some additional changes need to be made to tweak the Scout's ability for direct head on combat, but removing the light weapon is not the proper way to go about doing that.

Would players still use a suit though if the only function was to "see" other non-scouts, and to (in the minnie case) hack? That much of a disadvantage in a gunfight means you now have a suit that won't be able to defend itself most of the time, and almost nobody is going to play that in an FPS.

Stealth hacking is even impossible given the whole letter flashes like crazy while being hacked.

If so, this forum would be reduced to twenty people

I KNOW HOW TO FIX DUST. WE JUST NERF EVERYTHING.


How about we try something else? How about we buff things up to a base level... instead of being a complete tool.


Being able to customize any suit into anything is a hard concept for the people literally born into the CoD era. But that is what makes this game great. The ability to customize with near endless combinations. Everything else in this game is offered better on other games.

Can i ask if you were dropped on your head as a baby?

you want to restrict the weakest suit in the game to the weakest weapons in the game while giving the suit with the highest eHP in the game 2 of the strongest weapons in the game. While at the same time you give light frames a light weapon ( light frames being basically a scout with no passive bonus ) options to both light and side arms.

That is the most biased post i have ever seen. By chance are you a heavy user asking for the use of 2 heavy weapons?

Lol a heavy with a heavy weapon and a light weapon - OMG you're even more of a joker with terribad ideas than Mr 'scouts only get sidearms'

Okay, so let's assume it's imbalanced...

First of all, it's -ONE- way to achieve balance in 'these types of games' - though I'd argue that Dust 514 is pretty unique as far as first person shooters go.

That being said, it is a nuclear option at best. You remove light weapons you're going to have a whole host of other balance issues to worry about because now you've got a bunch of combatants that are very light in their effectiveness despite use of EWAR, which would soon be replaced with the Gallente Logi and it's attribute of using an Active Scanner.

If something is imbalanced you don't immediately go for the knee-jerk solution to solve the problem, you slowly tweak and implement small corrections in an effort to try and solve the problem organically. To put it in metaphor, you don't hack off the entire limb to deal with a splinter.



Then I will automatically assume that you're attempting to save your own precious KDR by getting rid of the competition - the pressure point that you have. The thing about "The greater good" of the game is that it's largely based on perspective and there are very very few things that are actually for "the greater good" of the game. Things that literally every player could benefit to have like Militia Weapons, better stat-readouts in the fitting screen, ISD implementation, and better API support.

Removal of a light weapon slot on a class is not and never will be "for the greater good of the game" and if you're thinking that you might want to consider all the options, good and bad.

This would be amazing!

This thread again?