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Hakyou Brutor D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 924	Posted - 2014.07.21 15:11:00 - [1] - Quote It's not protostomping that is the problem, it's the fact that good players, or vets, seem to always be running proto even though they could stomp equally hard in basic or advanced gear. I see people in proto get stomped all the time, it's cause just because you're in proto doesn't make you good (unless you're a heavy lul). tl:dr it's the players who make the gear, not the gear that makes the player. tl;dr tl;dr you cant nerf skill
OliX PRZESMIEWCA Bezimienni... E-R-A 146	Posted - 2014.07.21 15:16:00 - [2] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: It's not protostomping that is the problem, it's the fact that good players, or vets, seem to always be running proto even though they could stomp equally hard in basic or advanced gear. I see people in proto get stomped all the time, it's cause just because you're in proto doesn't make you good (unless you're a heavy lul). tl:dr it's the players who make the gear, not the gear that makes the player. tl;dr tl;dr you cant nerf skill True true...
Heimdallr69 Nyain San 2856	Posted - 2014.07.21 15:20:00 - [3] - Quote True I only use proto cuz that's my PC fit I don't like changing my fits though I have some bpo's I tend to use. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
RendonaSix Techs Laboratory 112	Posted - 2014.07.21 15:44:00 - [4] - Quote Try saying that to the hundreds of thousands of players who are really good at fps but didn't have the HP, DPS, isk or all the three to be effective and simply quit after getting bashed repeatedly. This thread is a subtle e peen stroke at best. "For those who have seen the light, repentance you shall find, for within the heart of battle, scum you shall grind"
RendonaSix Techs Laboratory 112	Posted - 2014.07.21 15:50:00 - [5] - Quote https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=168772&find=unread I'm CBA to repeat myself so there you go. If gear didn't matter then why even have tiers and why is it must for PC?. There are loads of players who rely on their gear to carry them that are considered pro in dust that would get annihilated in other fps games. "For those who have seen the light, repentance you shall find, for within the heart of battle, scum you shall grind"
Heimdallr69 Nyain San 2856	Posted - 2014.07.21 15:52:00 - [6] - Quote RendonaSix wrote: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=168772&find=unread I'm CBA to repeat myself so there you go. If gear didn't matter then why even have tiers and why is it must for PC?. There are loads of players who rely on their gear to carry them that are considered pro in dust that would get annihilated in other fps games. Most of the top players well I think they already quit are pro at other fps's too. It's really not hard to be good at an fps. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
RendonaSix Techs Laboratory 112	Posted - 2014.07.21 15:53:00 - [7] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: RendonaSix wrote: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=168772&find=unread I'm CBA to repeat myself so there you go. If gear didn't matter then why even have tiers and why is it must for PC?. There are loads of players who rely on their gear to carry them that are considered pro in dust that would get annihilated in other fps games. Most of the top players well I think they already quit are pro at other fps's too. It's really not hard to be good at an fps. Who would have known.................... "For those who have seen the light, repentance you shall find, for within the heart of battle, scum you shall grind"
Bax Zanith 185	Posted - 2014.07.21 16:04:00 - [8] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: It's not protostomping that is the problem, it's the fact that good players, or vets, seem to always be running proto even though they could stomp equally hard in basic or advanced gear. I see people in proto get stomped all the time, it's cause just because you're in proto doesn't make you good (unless you're a heavy lul). tl:dr it's the players who make the gear, not the gear that makes the player. tl;dr tl;dr you cant nerf skill Really? You see protostompers get stomped? All the time you say? You must be living in a parallel univers then. The only time i've ever seen such an event is when Nyan San faces the stacked proto team on my side. They didn't die from the cold without They died from the cold within. - James Patrick Kinney
Hakyou Brutor D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 926	Posted - 2014.07.21 16:08:00 - [9] - Quote Bax Zanith wrote: Hakyou Brutor wrote: It's not protostomping that is the problem, it's the fact that good players, or vets, seem to always be running proto even though they could stomp equally hard in basic or advanced gear. I see people in proto get stomped all the time, it's cause just because you're in proto doesn't make you good (unless you're a heavy lul). tl:dr it's the players who make the gear, not the gear that makes the player. tl;dr tl;dr you cant nerf skill Really? You see protostompers get stomped? All the time you say? You must be living in a parallel univers then. The only time i've ever seen such an event is when Nyan San faces the stacked proto team on my side. No no, I said people running proto get stomped all the time, not protostompers get stomped all the time... look carefully my friend.
Sum1ne Else Haus of Triage 1296	Posted - 2014.07.21 16:11:00 - [10] - Quote Never used to run proto at all until 'the announcement' ..now just burning through my isk Impressive? Longest PLC Kill - 151.8m Logi mk.0 - Commando gk.0 - Scout gk.0 - Assault ak.0

Bax Zanith 186	Posted - 2014.07.21 16:11:00 - [11] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: Bax Zanith wrote: Hakyou Brutor wrote: It's not protostomping that is the problem, it's the fact that good players, or vets, seem to always be running proto even though they could stomp equally hard in basic or advanced gear. I see people in proto get stomped all the time, it's cause just because you're in proto doesn't make you good (unless you're a heavy lul). tl:dr it's the players who make the gear, not the gear that makes the player. tl;dr tl;dr you cant nerf skill Really? You see protostompers get stomped? All the time you say? You must be living in a parallel univers then. The only time i've ever seen such an event is when Nyan San faces the stacked proto team on my side. No no, I said people running proto get stomped all the time, not protostompers get stomped all the time... look carefully my friend. The only difference is how it's worded. They didn't die from the cold without They died from the cold within. - James Patrick Kinney
Hakyou Brutor D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 927	Posted - 2014.07.21 16:38:00 - [12] - Quote Bax Zanith wrote: The only difference is how it's worded. No, there are protostompers, and there are people who run proto. I see people who run proto all the time but suck. At the same time I see people who run proto all the time and stomp.
Bax Zanith 186	Posted - 2014.07.21 16:47:00 - [13] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: Bax Zanith wrote: The only difference is how it's worded. No, there are protostompers, and there are people who run proto. I see people who run proto all the time but suck. At the same time I see people who run proto all the time and stomp. If you say so... But in the year i've been playing Dust, I've never seen someone in proto that sucks at using it. They didn't die from the cold without They died from the cold within. - James Patrick Kinney
Hakyou Brutor D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 928	Posted - 2014.07.21 16:50:00 - [14] - Quote Bax Zanith wrote: Hakyou Brutor wrote: Bax Zanith wrote: The only difference is how it's worded. No, there are protostompers, and there are people who run proto. I see people who run proto all the time but suck. At the same time I see people who run proto all the time and stomp. If you say so... But in the year i've been playing Dust, I've never seen someone in proto that sucks at using it. lolsrsly? When I used to play I saw ~~scrubs~~ new players in proto that got wrecked.
RendonaSix Techs Laboratory 112	Posted - 2014.07.21 16:53:00 - [15] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: Bax Zanith wrote: Hakyou Brutor wrote: Bax Zanith wrote: The only difference is how it's worded. No, there are protostompers, and there are people who run proto. I see people who run proto all the time but suck. At the same time I see people who run proto all the time and stomp. If you say so... But in the year i've been playing Dust, I've never seen someone in proto that sucks at using it. lolsrsly? When I used to play I saw ~~scrubs~~ new players in proto that got wrecked. You just shot yourself in the foot, can you spot it?. I thought you saw this all the time......bro?. "For those who have seen the light, repentance you shall find, for within the heart of battle, scum you shall grind"
Hakyou Brutor D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 928	Posted - 2014.07.21 16:56:00 - [16] - Quote RendonaSix wrote: You just shot yourself in the foot, can you spot it?. I thought you saw this all the time......bro?. Still... not understanding what I'm saying. I saw it all the time, when I played. I'm 100% I'll continue to kill people who have no business running proto in pubs, when I return.
RendonaSix Techs Laboratory 113	Posted - 2014.07.21 17:00:00 - [17] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: RendonaSix wrote: You just shot yourself in the foot, can you spot it?. I thought you saw this all the time......bro?. Still... not understanding what I'm saying. Yes I do. The problem is that you don't seem to be aware of how much crap you are blatantly spewing. "For those who have seen the light, repentance you shall find, for within the heart of battle, scum you shall grind"
RendonaSix Techs Laboratory 113	Posted - 2014.07.21 17:01:00 - [18] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: RendonaSix wrote: You just shot yourself in the foot, can you spot it?. I thought you saw this all the time......bro?. Still... not understanding what I'm saying. I saw it all the time, when I played. I'm 100% I'll continue to kill people who have no business running proto in pubs, when I return. And what game was that?. You are now talking in past tense but started in present tense. Stop lying, I'm not conversing with you anymore. Are you even old enough to be playing dust?. Lol. "For those who have seen the light, repentance you shall find, for within the heart of battle, scum you shall grind"
Hakyou Brutor D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 928	Posted - 2014.07.21 17:08:00 - [19] - Quote RendonaSix wrote: Hakyou Brutor wrote: RendonaSix wrote: You just shot yourself in the foot, can you spot it?. I thought you saw this all the time......bro?. Still... not understanding what I'm saying. I saw it all the time, when I played. I'm 100% I'll continue to kill people who have no business running proto in pubs, when I return. And what game was that?. You are now talking in past tense but started in present tense. Stop lying, I'm not conversing with you anymore. Are you even old enough to be playing dust?. Lol. Alright man, I'm not going to deal with your attitude. You clearly need a break from DUST. I'm not lying, there are some people who run proto, but suck, judging from your reaction you're likely one of those people. Also, what game was what?
Onesimus Tarsus Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 2338	Posted - 2014.07.21 17:12:00 - [20] - Quote Kdr matchmaking fixes this. K/D(r) WP/D(r) matchmaking fixes the whole game. Period. Beh!

RendonaSix Techs Laboratory 117	Posted - 2014.07.21 17:32:00 - [21] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Kdr matchmaking fixes this. How is the possible though with such varying degrees. Say a newb gets lucky and goes roughly 60/9 in his academy, then what? Lol. Say I'm training a squad of random nubs, the k/d averages at 1.50, I get some good farming time then?. No troll mate seriously, if there's a way that this would work then let me know. There are also those who would pay buddies to create ALTs to be able to farm newbs forever technically and that will happen, the games been abused as much as possible at every turn. "For those who have seen the light, repentance you shall find, for within the heart of battle, scum you shall grind"
Atiim Commando Perkone Caldari State 10797	Posted - 2014.07.21 18:09:00 - [22] - Quote WP/D matchmaking fixes this. Once a ScRub, always a sCRub. -HAND
RendonaSix Techs Laboratory 117	Posted - 2014.07.21 18:11:00 - [23] - Quote Atiim wrote: WP/D matchmaking fixes this. Schwing, I forgot about that one. "For those who have seen the light, repentance you shall find, for within the heart of battle, scum you shall grind"
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 4054	Posted - 2014.07.21 18:11:00 - [24] - Quote Sum1ne Else wrote: Never used to run proto at all until 'the announcement' ..now just burning through my isk This, I'm not sure what people are waiting for. Level 4 Forum Warrior Currently on a quest to get all suits to ADV (8 remaining) PSN: wbrom42
Scar Scrilla Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dark Taboo 297	Posted - 2014.07.21 18:37:00 - [25] - Quote ... or grab a shotgun and REs "Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses" " ... or grab a shotgun and REs." - UN1TE
Onesimus Tarsus Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 2339	Posted - 2014.07.21 18:56:00 - [26] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Sum1ne Else wrote: Never used to run proto at all until 'the announcement' ..now just burning through my isk This, I'm not sure what people are waiting for. I'm hurrying, but it takes a while to burn through 2500 proto suits. K/D(r) WP/D(r) matchmaking fixes the whole game. Period. Beh!
Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 980	Posted - 2014.07.21 19:02:00 - [27] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Kdr matchmaking fixes this. No it doesn't. Some of the best squads, worst protostompers have logis with negative kdr's. KDR is not the sole measure of a person's impact. KDR is important and should be a factor used in matchmaking but not as a standalone metric. Because, that's why.
Onesimus Tarsus Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 2339	Posted - 2014.07.21 19:12:00 - [28] - Quote Nothing Certain wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Kdr matchmaking fixes this. No it doesn't. Some of the best squads, worst protostompers have logis with negative kdr's. KDR is not the sole measure of a person's impact. KDR is important and should be a factor used in matchmaking but not as a standalone metric. Keep walking through your mind the effect of every high kdr player always playing similarly high kdr players over and over, and the impact that has on wpdr and wins and pairs and cost per match... Keep following the chain. Kdr matchmaking fixes everything. K/D(r) WP/D(r) matchmaking fixes the whole game. Period. Beh!
echo47 Sacrilege of Fatal Arms 271	Posted - 2014.07.21 19:36:00 - [29] - Quote Lack of up links, or all up links on top of buildings. Lack of agression. Lack of vehicles. Lack of AV. And 6 redline snipers on one team. This is what allows stomping. With two of the above and in some casses all 6 you will get stomped regardless of the gear the other team has fit. I would rather look bad and win, than look good and lose.
Zindorak 1.U.P 160	Posted - 2014.07.21 19:40:00 - [30] - Quote What's an academy in the game? Master of the Scrambler Pistol. Carthum Assault ScP <3



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