DUST Search - My 2 ISK on protostomping

Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:

It's the Cold War all over again.

I'll stop bringing my protogear when everyone else stops, but the problem is no one is going to be the first, and you sure as hell won't see a bunch of people do it at once, so it keeps going on.

I use it to remain competitive with other protostompers. Yes, I am damned good, I remain in the top four to five spots of the leaderboard if I put on my try-hard pants with basic gear... But that's not good enough if I'm facing a proto-stomping squad, it just won't cut it, especially if I'm playing FW and half of my Amarr/Caldari team gives up in the first four minutes if things go south.

So I put it on, all of my protogear.

Deal with it.

This "Good Players don't need the gear" argument doesn't hold up, for if another good player puts it on then it's a downhill battle and you need it to compete. Yes, I could bust my butt to kill a protobear vet with lesser gear, but when I can put us on an even playing field by fielding my own, I'd have to be an idiot not to.

Every superpower has the nukes, and no one is going to be the first to give them up out of "good faith."

Blame matchmaking.

"For those who have seen the light, repentance you shall find, for within the heart of battle, scum you shall grind"


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RendonaSix Techs Laboratory 112	Posted - 2014.07.21 15:44:00 - [1] - Quote Try saying that to the hundreds of thousands of players who are really good at fps but didn't have the HP, DPS, isk or all the three to be effective and simply quit after getting bashed repeatedly. This thread is a subtle e peen stroke at best. "For those who have seen the light, repentance you shall find, for within the heart of battle, scum you shall grind"
RendonaSix Techs Laboratory 112	Posted - 2014.07.21 15:50:00 - [2] - Quote https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=168772&find=unread I'm CBA to repeat myself so there you go. If gear didn't matter then why even have tiers and why is it must for PC?. There are loads of players who rely on their gear to carry them that are considered pro in dust that would get annihilated in other fps games. "For those who have seen the light, repentance you shall find, for within the heart of battle, scum you shall grind"
RendonaSix Techs Laboratory 112	Posted - 2014.07.21 15:53:00 - [3] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: RendonaSix wrote: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=168772&find=unread I'm CBA to repeat myself so there you go. If gear didn't matter then why even have tiers and why is it must for PC?. There are loads of players who rely on their gear to carry them that are considered pro in dust that would get annihilated in other fps games. Most of the top players well I think they already quit are pro at other fps's too. It's really not hard to be good at an fps. Who would have known.................... "For those who have seen the light, repentance you shall find, for within the heart of battle, scum you shall grind"
RendonaSix Techs Laboratory 112	Posted - 2014.07.21 16:53:00 - [4] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: Bax Zanith wrote: Hakyou Brutor wrote: Bax Zanith wrote: The only difference is how it's worded. No, there are protostompers, and there are people who run proto. I see people who run proto all the time but suck. At the same time I see people who run proto all the time and stomp. If you say so... But in the year i've been playing Dust, I've never seen someone in proto that sucks at using it. lolsrsly? When I used to play I saw ~~scrubs~~ new players in proto that got wrecked. You just shot yourself in the foot, can you spot it?. I thought you saw this all the time......bro?. "For those who have seen the light, repentance you shall find, for within the heart of battle, scum you shall grind"
RendonaSix Techs Laboratory 113	Posted - 2014.07.21 17:00:00 - [5] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: RendonaSix wrote: You just shot yourself in the foot, can you spot it?. I thought you saw this all the time......bro?. Still... not understanding what I'm saying. Yes I do. The problem is that you don't seem to be aware of how much crap you are blatantly spewing. "For those who have seen the light, repentance you shall find, for within the heart of battle, scum you shall grind"
RendonaSix Techs Laboratory 113	Posted - 2014.07.21 17:01:00 - [6] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: RendonaSix wrote: You just shot yourself in the foot, can you spot it?. I thought you saw this all the time......bro?. Still... not understanding what I'm saying. I saw it all the time, when I played. I'm 100% I'll continue to kill people who have no business running proto in pubs, when I return. And what game was that?. You are now talking in past tense but started in present tense. Stop lying, I'm not conversing with you anymore. Are you even old enough to be playing dust?. Lol. "For those who have seen the light, repentance you shall find, for within the heart of battle, scum you shall grind"
RendonaSix Techs Laboratory 117	Posted - 2014.07.21 17:32:00 - [7] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Kdr matchmaking fixes this. How is the possible though with such varying degrees. Say a newb gets lucky and goes roughly 60/9 in his academy, then what? Lol. Say I'm training a squad of random nubs, the k/d averages at 1.50, I get some good farming time then?. No troll mate seriously, if there's a way that this would work then let me know. There are also those who would pay buddies to create ALTs to be able to farm newbs forever technically and that will happen, the games been abused as much as possible at every turn. "For those who have seen the light, repentance you shall find, for within the heart of battle, scum you shall grind"
RendonaSix Techs Laboratory 117	Posted - 2014.07.21 18:11:00 - [8] - Quote Atiim wrote: WP/D matchmaking fixes this. Schwing, I forgot about that one. "For those who have seen the light, repentance you shall find, for within the heart of battle, scum you shall grind"
RendonaSix Techs Laboratory 121	Posted - 2014.07.21 19:45:00 - [9] - Quote Zindorak wrote: What's an academy in the game? The place where you start. Its supposed to help newbs but its riddled with fail players who need to farm it to make up for the fact that they can't even do well in a game with aim assist. "For those who have seen the light, repentance you shall find, for within the heart of battle, scum you shall grind"
RendonaSix Techs Laboratory 121	Posted - 2014.07.21 19:54:00 - [10] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: It's the Cold War all over again. I'll stop bringing my protogear when everyone else stops, but the problem is no one is going to be the first, and you sure as hell won't see a bunch of people do it at once, so it keeps going on. I use it to remain competitive with other protostompers. Yes, I am damned good, I remain in the top four to five spots of the leaderboard if I put on my try-hard pants with basic gear... But that's not good enough if I'm facing a proto-stomping squad, it just won't cut it, especially if I'm playing FW and half of my Amarr/Caldari team gives up in the first four minutes if things go south. So I put it on, all of my protogear. Deal with it. This "Good Players don't need the gear" argument doesn't hold up, for if another good player puts it on then it's a downhill battle and you need it to compete. Yes, I could bust my butt to kill a protobear vet with lesser gear, but when I can put us on an even playing field by fielding my own, I'd have to be an idiot not to. Every superpower has the nukes, and no one is going to be the first to give them up out of "good faith." Blame matchmaking. Proto gear isn't the problem, its the cost which makes it privy for about 10% of the game to spam regardless of cost. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=168798&find=unread That's my thread on the issue and it should make for a good read whether you agree or not. In the time iv played dust, iv seen the cycle repeated time and again....... Today's stompees are tomorrows stompers. "For those who have seen the light, repentance you shall find, for within the heart of battle, scum you shall grind"

RendonaSix Techs Laboratory 122	Posted - 2014.07.21 20:02:00 - [11] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: True. I only run proto for that 11.12 m/s sprint speed I run proto amarr assault with 3 damage mods and 705 armour with a proto scr and scp with uplinks. Why?, you might ask. Because I'm a nice guy, that's why. On a serious note, I have a buddy x7 lion who needs it for that exact reason. He's a gal knifer. "For those who have seen the light, repentance you shall find, for within the heart of battle, scum you shall grind"
RendonaSix Techs Laboratory 139	Posted - 2014.07.22 11:05:00 - [12] - Quote Unlucky Fluke wrote: RendonaSix wrote: Try saying that to the hundreds of thousands of players who are really good at fps but didn't have the HP, DPS, isk or all the three to be effective and simply quit after getting bashed repeatedly. This thread is a subtle e peen stroke at best. LOL - dubble LOL With even more LOL on top... I've seen many players come in late in Dust and wrecked havoc as inexperienced low level players, BeSerious is one example, Dark_Ir is another, there are more I'm sure. Many of us vets can easily start a New caracter and get pretty decent results, not in PC naturally but definately in Pubgames.... Yeah same as but the majority can't, they literally will not put up with all the bs to even get good. We came in when dust had promise, we know people and we have connections. The average blue who just downloaded some random f2p game might go a week without really knowing anything provided they even stay that long. "For those who have seen the light, repentance you shall find, for within the heart of battle, scum you shall grind"