DUST Search - How Assaults Were Intended To Be. Their Not Slayers (Spoiler Alert...

MINA Longstrike wrote:

Mobius Kaethis wrote:

MINA Longstrike wrote:

In fact the only assault that has a 'bad' bonus right now is the cal assault and that's fixable by also adding kick reduction to rail weaponry on it.

I was nodding my head along with you right up until this last line. I am sorry, the Gallente bonus is worse than the Caldari bonus. I mean come on, really, a hip fire dispersion bonus to hybrid blaster weapons?! Really?!

The only weapons that actually benefit from this are the ion pisol (which still manages to be horrible even if you have level 5 in assault) and the shotgun (a tighter pattern = longer range kills). The majority of Gal Assaults though use the AR as their primary which, once you've skilled up sharpshooter, is already super accurate from the hip. I actually kind of wonder if the bonus affects the AR at all.

All the assaults' bonuses, with the exception of the Amarr, need a very close looking at.

The gal bonus makes the variants perform a lot better when hipfired. Sharpshooter isn't enough for a tar.

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CHANCEtheChAn 0uter.Heaven 594	Posted - 2014.07.22 23:23:00 - [31] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: Then they need to move to the role of slayer. Emphasize attack at the cost of defense. This is the role that commando has been given Its basically a sentinel suit With 10%-50% less HP depending on the fit you use With an equipment slot and 10% bonus and reload speed damage to certain weapons for attack The problem with this is that if your not stacking health on a commando your too squishy along with the low slot count While a sentinel suit can stack damage mods and minimum health mods and be just as effective as a commando with more fitting options (Just slap on a magsec and you basically have a second rifle) Just no equipment slot But basically the Commando is Medium-Med/High HP, slow, big hit box, but extra damage and reload speed for continuous and increased damage output Emphasizing attack at the cost of eHP and speed Closed Beta Vet/ Chromosome and Corp battle Vet/ Uprising 1.0-Now PC vet Ex D.F. Director Current Inner.Hell Director
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1539	Posted - 2014.07.23 14:46:00 - [32] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Mobius Kaethis wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: In fact the only assault that has a 'bad' bonus right now is the cal assault and that's fixable by also adding kick reduction to rail weaponry on it. I was nodding my head along with you right up until this last line. I am sorry, the Gallente bonus is worse than the Caldari bonus. I mean come on, really, a hip fire dispersion bonus to hybrid blaster weapons?! Really?! The only weapons that actually benefit from this are the ion pisol (which still manages to be horrible even if you have level 5 in assault) and the shotgun (a tighter pattern = longer range kills). The majority of Gal Assaults though use the AR as their primary which, once you've skilled up sharpshooter, is already super accurate from the hip. I actually kind of wonder if the bonus affects the AR at all. All the assaults' bonuses, with the exception of the Amarr, need a very close looking at. The gal bonus makes the variants perform a lot better when hipfired. Sharpshooter isn't enough for a tar. The Tac AR isn't meant to be hip fired. It is a tactical rifle and should be aimed down sights. That being said I haven't used it off of my assault suit so I can't really say how horrible it is without the bonus. Still, giving you the TAR until I test it out more, that is only three weapons getting the bonus from the Gal Assault. At the very best that puts it on equal footing with the Caldari bonus which benefits 4 weapons if you count the ARR and the RR as separate. Both of these bonuses are still truly horrible and need serious work. Fun > Realism
BL4CKST4R Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 2858	Posted - 2014.07.23 20:44:00 - [33] - Quote Soulja Ghostface wrote: The assault dropsuit is a versatile frontline combat suit that combines excellent protection, Good mobility, and sufficient hard points for mission specific customizations Through customization assaults suits are supposed to do anything and when i say anything i mean anything. And they are supposed to do it better than anything else that can do it with the exception of the intended suit for intended role The Assault Role Is Meant To Play Second Fiddle To Everything Slaying>Commando>Assault>etc Scouting- Scout>Assault> Defending- Sentinel>Assault>etc Logi'ing- Logistics>Assault>etc.>Assau But... Flexablity- Assault>Everything Until you realize that description is 3-4 years old and a lot has changed since then (like the fact they used to have 2 equipment slots) supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
Bormir1r Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 574	Posted - 2014.07.23 22:25:00 - [34] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Killing folks. They're slayers. Yes they are. You can put damage mods on and "Kill Stuff" All suits with a weapon can "Kill Stuff". If you want to be most specialised in "Killing Stuff" Go Heavy Heavies are defensive killers. Assaults are offensive killers. Commandos are in between. Scouts are offensive too but in a more EWAR way. "One does not simply" run like a Raptor. Only Mk.0 Scouts will do that. NK are my Teeth, Kin Cats are my Legs.
Benjamin Ciscko Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2601	Posted - 2014.07.23 23:16:00 - [35] - Quote Leeroy Gannarsein wrote: In what way is an assault more flexible than a logi, or a scout? In what way could it be? ^ This Tanker/Logi
Benjamin Ciscko Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2601	Posted - 2014.07.23 23:19:00 - [36] - Quote Soulja Ghostface wrote: Alena Ventrallis wrote: Then they need to move to the role of slayer. Emphasize attack at the cost of defense. Damage Mods Are For That Nope. The gallante sacrifice nothing for damage mods. Tanker/Logi
Benjamin Ciscko Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2601	Posted - 2014.07.23 23:23:00 - [37] - Quote Soulja Ghostface wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Killing folks. They're slayers. Yes they are. You can put damage mods on and "Kill Stuff" All suits with a weapon can "Kill Stuff". If you want to be most specialised in "Killing Stuff", Go Heavy Scout Focus Ewar Logi focuse Support Assault focus Killing stuff Tanker/Logi
Soulja Ghostface MCDUSTDONALDS 2382	Posted - 2014.07.23 23:40:00 - [38] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: Alena Ventrallis wrote: Then they need to move to the role of slayer. Emphasize attack at the cost of defense. Damage Mods Are For That Nope. The gallante and Amarr sacrifice nothing for damage mods. Instead of dual tanking we can choose to do more damage *CEO/ Killing Clones Since Uprising 1.2/ ADV Omni Soldier/ Forum King/* God Favors The Side With The Most Artillery
Soulja Ghostface MCDUSTDONALDS 2382	Posted - 2014.07.23 23:42:00 - [39] - Quote [quote=Benjamin Ciscko Scout Focus Ewar Logi focuse Support Assault focus Killing stuff [/quote] Caveman mentality? Or Naw? I kill bad guy *CEO/ Killing Clones Since Uprising 1.2/ ADV Omni Soldier/ Forum King/* God Favors The Side With The Most Artillery
Cheydinhal Guard Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 137	Posted - 2014.07.24 01:22:00 - [40] - Quote Boot Booter wrote: Jack McReady wrote: since close beta assaults were meant to be the jack of all trades main battle suit but CCP failed to deliver. and "slaying" is no role or anything. any one with a weapon is a slayer, aka every suit in game. And thats just not true. Slaying is a role. The slayer role revolves around removing enemy clones more efficiently than everyone else and being the most feared enemy. You know the guys who consistently go +4 kdr, the guy red berries see and run from. Oh, you mean heavies? AmarrAssault, GalAssault, GalLogi, CalScout GalLogi to the end



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