DUST Search - There is no heavy nerf

Breakin Stuff wrote:

The dark cloud wrote:

Breakin Stuff wrote:

The dark cloud wrote:

Are you stupid? Did you even had a look at my fits? They where made with all lvl5 skills. The suits are not the sentinels we have today they are the hotfix charlie sentinels with reduced CPU+PG. And a forgegun is not really going to help me in a 1vs1 fight with a HMG heavy. Please only post if you have read the feedback section about the PG+CPU nerf thats about to hit us.

doublecheck your numbers. the fits you have linked as shared have little to no skills linked, and when i restart the process with skills plugged in and use prototype modules it works fine

final number for your fit proto is 405/407 CPU, 37/70 PG

Then logout of protofits, click my link and add MAX SKILLS on the top left corner. You are making fits with Ck.0 sentinels, ive made fits with the "Hotfix charlie" variants which are aswell listed on protofits.

the fit lists hotfix charlie Ck.0

put in complex shield rechargers instead of energizers and the fit works.

Sidearm and nades optional. if you have to swap on an HMG fit anyway yer probably screwed.


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The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 3650	Posted - 2014.07.20 15:45:00 - [1] - Quote Go and check out protofits and make fittings with the "hotfix charlie ak.0/gk.0 sentinels". You still can go fully proto on those without going over fitting limitations. The only heavy that gets dumped on is the caldari. The cpu nerf it receives forces it to use enhanced modules and advanced weapons and some standard stuff. Either nerfbat the other heavys harder or leave the caldari sentinel out of the nerf.
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 3650	Posted - 2014.07.20 17:01:00 - [2] - Quote iKILLu osborne wrote: the nerf was designed to help prevent proto light weapons (thale sr) being fitted to sentinels idk if the nerf succeeds in this regard i do not have access to proto fits so if you could test it much appreciated funny thing is on protofits the HMG fitting bonus isnt even applied yet. And i still can go full proto on the armor sentinels and it certainly wouldnt stop me using a lght weapon on them. Though that would just be scrubby.
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 3652	Posted - 2014.07.20 18:18:00 - [3] - Quote Are you stupid? Did you even had a look at my fits? They where made with all lvl5 skills. The suits are not the sentinels we have today they are the hotfix charlie sentinels with reduced CPU+PG. And a forgegun is not really going to help me in a 1vs1 fight with a HMG heavy. Please only post if you have read the feedback section about the PG+CPU nerf thats about to hit us.
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 3652	Posted - 2014.07.20 18:36:00 - [4] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: The dark cloud wrote: Are you stupid? Did you even had a look at my fits? They where made with all lvl5 skills. The suits are not the sentinels we have today they are the hotfix charlie sentinels with reduced CPU+PG. And a forgegun is not really going to help me in a 1vs1 fight with a HMG heavy. Please only post if you have read the feedback section about the PG+CPU nerf thats about to hit us. doublecheck your numbers. the fits you have linked as shared have little to no skills linked, and when i restart the process with skills plugged in and use prototype modules it works fine final number for your fit proto is 405/407 CPU, 37/70 PG Then logout of protofits, click my link and add MAX SKILLS on the top left corner. You are making fits with Ck.0 sentinels, ive made fits with the "Hotfix charlie" variants which are aswell listed on protofits.
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 3653	Posted - 2014.07.20 18:41:00 - [5] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: The dark cloud wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: The dark cloud wrote: Are you stupid? Did you even had a look at my fits? They where made with all lvl5 skills. The suits are not the sentinels we have today they are the hotfix charlie sentinels with reduced CPU+PG. And a forgegun is not really going to help me in a 1vs1 fight with a HMG heavy. Please only post if you have read the feedback section about the PG+CPU nerf thats about to hit us. doublecheck your numbers. the fits you have linked as shared have little to no skills linked, and when i restart the process with skills plugged in and use prototype modules it works fine final number for your fit proto is 405/407 CPU, 37/70 PG Then logout of protofits, click my link and add MAX SKILLS on the top left corner. You are making fits with Ck.0 sentinels, ive made fits with the "Hotfix charlie" variants which are aswell listed on protofits. the fit lists hotfix charlie Ck.0 put in complex shield rechargers instead of energizers and the fit works. Sidearm and nades optional. if you have to swap on an HMG fit anyway yer probably screwed. Sidearm is not opional cause the other 3 heavys can fit the sidearm and grenades with no issue. And yes the sidearm and HMG where aswell proto on the other fits.
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 3653	Posted - 2014.07.20 18:58:00 - [6] - Quote The issue is that the caldari sentinel is the only one who needs to sacrifice something. The other 3 variants have no issue to fit on their suit whatever they want without penaltys to that. If i would see that the other races had similar fitting issues i wouldnt be concerned but this is just unfair. Caldari sentinels cant really be supported with repair tools and now they are the only race which gets realisticly nerfbatted. Though it has the 2nd lowest HP (after the minnie ofcourse) and it receives the harshest nerf. By looking how popular amarr and gallente sentinels are and that they basically are not affected at all (they can still fit whatever they want) it means that the proposed heavy nerf is nonexistant for the gameplay itself. The core message is: "what i can fit today, i can fit tomorrow".
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 3654	Posted - 2014.07.20 19:30:00 - [7] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: How did you make Charlie fittings? By selecting the dropsuits that have a "hotfix charlie" in their name.
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 3656	Posted - 2014.07.20 23:31:00 - [8] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Thanks. In your expert opinion, what should the proto sentinelse have in PG/CPU per race? Honestly i dont know exact values but bringing the caldari sentinel to the lvl of the others would just be a circlejerk and we would complain about heavy spam within 1 day after the hotfix got dropped. The main focus should be either firepower or tanking on fittings. This can only be achieved by tackling the main fitting factor of each suit. So lets take a example: -caldari gets nerfed on CPU and has to decide if it wants to go tank or gank (because of shield modules beeing CPU heavy) -amarr and gallente should be nerfed on PG so that it is not possible to have a proto HMG and 3/4 complex plates -minmatarr is just a abomination but some people consider the speed of it "OP" and because ctalysers require PG so PG should be nerfed on it And to make it clear: i dont want the caldari to be brought up to the same lvl as the other sentinels, i want the other sentinels to be brought down to the caldari sentinels fitting lvl.
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 3656	Posted - 2014.07.20 23:37:00 - [9] - Quote anti heavy shotgun is just a normal shotgun. Use a scout, shot him in the back 2-3 times and he should fall over dead. Which is faster then charging a 2nd shot with a forgegun. Well maybe if you have some squad coordination you could pre charge the thing and shot the heavy before he turns around the corner unleashing lead showers onto your head.