DUST Search - a compromise

iKILLu osborne wrote:

the past few weeks i have moaned and groaned both on the forums and in-game about cal scout and whispered through cracked doors "respec" however i know that will never happen cause it would get everybody else qq'ing for a respec.

So what i suggest to you rattati is a compromise something in return for what will be took such as precision enhancors being able to be fitted in both high and low slots so i can keep my high slots free for shield extenders but also put a stacking penalty 2% after the first then 7% then 20%(percents are just an example not suggesting those exact fiqures)

before you say no keep in mind this would help limit hybrid tanking for a cal scout that wanted to also run some ewar on their fit
instead of my current fit High:3 complex shields,1 complex precision Low:1 complex plate ,1 complex dampener. it would be high: 3 complex shields,1 complex precision low:1 complex precision,1 complex dampener. the second precision enhancor being added to compensate for loss of suit's racial bonus.

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iKILLu osborne Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 84	Posted - 2014.07.20 00:36:00 - [1] - Quote the past few weeks i have moaned and groaned both on the forums and in-game about cal scout and whispered through cracked doors "respec" however i know that will never happen cause it would get everybody else qq'ing for a respec. So what i suggest to you rattati is a compromise something in return for what will be took such as precision enhancors being able to be fitted in both high and low slots so i can keep my high slots free for shield extenders but also put a stacking penalty 2% after the first then 7% then 20%(percents are just an example not suggesting those exact fiqures) before you say no keep in mind this would help limit hybrid tanking for a cal scout that wanted to also run some ewar on their fit instead of my current fit High:3 complex shields,1 complex precision Low:1 complex plate ,1 complex dampener. it would be high: 3 complex shields,1 complex precision low:1 complex precision,1 complex dampener. the second precision enhancor being added to compensate for loss of suit's racial bonus. here is a joke, so an amarr scout walks in lol after charlie it will be"oh shlt a amarr scout walked in"
KING CHECKMATE Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 5369	Posted - 2014.07.20 02:11:00 - [2] - Quote iKILLu osborne wrote: the past few weeks i have moaned and groaned both on the forums and in-game about cal scout and whispered through cracked doors "respec" however i know that will never happen cause it would get everybody else qq'ing for a respec. So what i suggest to you rattati is a compromise something in return for what will be took such as precision enhancors being able to be fitted in both high and low slots so i can keep my high slots free for shield extenders but also put a stacking penalty 2% after the first then 7% then 20%(percents are just an example not suggesting those exact fiqures) before you say no keep in mind this would help limit hybrid tanking for a cal scout that wanted to also run some ewar on their fit instead of my current fit High:3 complex shields,1 complex precision Low:1 complex plate ,1 complex dampener. it would be high: 3 complex shields,1 complex precision low:1 complex precision,1 complex dampener. the second precision enhancor being added to compensate for loss of suit's racial bonus. Me likey. Stealth Storm
taxi bastard jihad taxi co. 157	Posted - 2014.07.20 02:27:00 - [3] - Quote As a mini scout I run a lot less ehp than both gal and cal scouts. I see no reason why you should not be the same. It's still good bonuses you get so I can't see what the problem is.
iKILLu osborne Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 86	Posted - 2014.07.20 03:41:00 - [4] - Quote taxi bastard wrote: As a mini scout I run a lot less ehp than both gal and cal scouts. I see no reason why you should not be the same. It's still good bonuses you get so I can't see what the problem is. range is useless without precision and regardless how much they buff assault it will still be scout 514 for awhile i'm just requesting that precision to be able to be fitted in both high and low here is a joke, so an amarr scout walks in lol after charlie it will be"oh shlt a amarr scout walked in"
taxi bastard jihad taxi co. 157	Posted - 2014.07.20 04:16:00 - [5] - Quote iKILLu osborne wrote: taxi bastard wrote: As a mini scout I run a lot less ehp than both gal and cal scouts. I see no reason why you should not be the same. It's still good bonuses you get so I can't see what the problem is. range is useless without precision and regardless how much they buff assault it will still be scout 514 for awhile i'm just requesting that precision to be able to be fitted in both high and low i have no range buff or dampening as a passive. i give up 3 slots - 2 for precision 1 for damp on my advanced suit leaving me with 2 tank slots - 1 high and 1 low. i can see what your after but what your looking for is more sheild EHP whithout a drawback so i disagree
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 897	Posted - 2014.07.20 06:17:00 - [6] - Quote you cant stack ewar and Hp mods on a scout suit thats why its OP in the first place. KEQ diplomat/ intel /GC officer
Velociraptor antirrhopus Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 368	Posted - 2014.07.20 06:33:00 - [7] - Quote are you FOTM chasers SERIOUSLY surprised you're getting nerfed and wish you had a respec? oh the sweet delicious tears You should HAVE to make a clear choice between going balls to the walls decked out for EWAR or sacrificing scan ability for HP. this is tempting me to spec into the Gal scout just to feel the joy of slaughtering Caldari scouts i keel you
iKILLu osborne Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 86	Posted - 2014.07.20 14:30:00 - [8] - Quote Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote: are you FOTM chasers SERIOUSLY surprised you're getting nerfed and wish you had a respec? oh the sweet delicious tears You should HAVE to make a clear choice between going balls to the walls decked out for EWAR or sacrificing scan ability for HP. this is tempting me to spec into the Gal scout just to feel the joy of slaughtering Caldari scouts sir as i said in another thread i'm not a fotm chaser i chose cal at the beginning of 1.8 cause i knew cloaking w/dampening would be a pain in the a$$. if i was being nerfed i would have no complaints considering my counter had already been nerfed(gal scout), but that is not the case my entire role the reason i specced into cal is being CHANGED not nerfed CHANGED. and for me to be fotm don't I need a bk 42 acr?lol my viziam scr fit is only ran by one other cal scout(that does any good with it) 1st leuitenant tiberues if you have seen me or him in action you will know that we are a little bit more than fotm here is a joke, so an amarr scout walks in lol after charlie it will be"oh shlt a amarr scout walked in"
Dingleburt Bangledack 228	Posted - 2014.07.20 14:31:00 - [9] - Quote iKILLu osborne wrote: range is useless without precision and regardless how much they buff assault it will still be scout 514 for awhile i'm just requesting that precision to be able to be fitted in both high and low Range is NOT worthless without precision. At least not on a scout. You'll still be scanning every heavy and medium suit, along with most scouts that aren't running damps. Get over the fact that you can no longer passively scan 95% of the enemy team at all times.
iKILLu osborne Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 86	Posted - 2014.07.20 14:33:00 - [10] - Quote taxi bastard wrote: iKILLu osborne wrote: taxi bastard wrote: As a mini scout I run a lot less ehp than both gal and cal scouts. I see no reason why you should not be the same. It's still good bonuses you get so I can't see what the problem is. range is useless without precision and regardless how much they buff assault it will still be scout 514 for awhile i'm just requesting that precision to be able to be fitted in both high and low i have no range buff or dampening as a passive. i give up 3 slots - 2 for precision 1 for damp on my advanced suit leaving me with 2 tank slots - 1 high and 1 low. i can see what your after but what your looking for is more sheild EHP whithout a drawback so i disagree no the drawback is i will no longer be able to hybrid tank like i do now learn how to read my little knifer that i can see a mile away here is a joke, so an amarr scout walks in lol after charlie it will be"oh shlt a amarr scout walked in"

iKILLu osborne Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 86	Posted - 2014.07.20 14:39:00 - [11] - Quote Dingleburt Bangledack wrote: iKILLu osborne wrote: range is useless without precision and regardless how much they buff assault it will still be scout 514 for awhile i'm just requesting that precision to be able to be fitted in both high and low Range is NOT worthless without precision. At least not on a scout. You'll still be scanning every heavy and medium suit, along with most scouts that aren't running damps. Get over the fact that you can no longer passively scan 95% of the enemy team at all times. okay sir lets say you specced into min commando for swarm bonus but oh look ccp changed your projectile/explosive bonus too something as useless as range like stamina bonus yeah pretty sure you would be upset cause they CHANGED your role, didn't nerf it they CHANGED it here is a joke, so an amarr scout walks in lol after charlie it will be"oh shlt a amarr scout walked in"
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 667	Posted - 2014.07.20 14:45:00 - [12] - Quote iKILLu osborne wrote: okay sir lets say you specced into min commando for swarm bonus but oh look ccp changed your projectile/explosive bonus too something as useless as range like stamina bonus yeah pretty sure you would be upset cause they CHANGED your role, didn't nerf it they CHANGED it Thing is, the CalScout is still extremely capable of detecting Scouts: it is just required to expend high slots to do so rather than getting free high slots and using it's less important (to the CalScout) lows for additional range so it can scan everything everywhere. Now, it gets bonuses to lows, freeing up those two lows for further benefits, but it, like pretty much all of the other Scouts, has to give up it's primary tank to perform exceptionally. Getting down to 21db is plenty worthwhile, but it cannot be free with range at the same time. Alt of Halla Murr.
iKILLu osborne Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 86	Posted - 2014.07.20 15:59:00 - [13] - Quote Kallas Hallytyr wrote: iKILLu osborne wrote: okay sir lets say you specced into min commando for swarm bonus but oh look ccp changed your projectile/explosive bonus too something as useless as range like stamina bonus yeah pretty sure you would be upset cause they CHANGED your role, didn't nerf it they CHANGED it Thing is, the CalScout is still extremely capable of detecting Scouts: it is just required to expend high slots to do so rather than getting free high slots and using it's less important (to the CalScout) lows for additional range so it can scan everything everywhere. Now, it gets bonuses to lows, freeing up those two lows for further benefits, but it, like pretty much all of the other Scouts, has to give up it's primary tank to perform exceptionally. Getting down to 21db is plenty worthwhile, but it cannot be free with range at the same time. exactly i'm now limited to one good fit elimating any versatility the cal had before charlie finally someone sees the scope of the change here is a joke, so an amarr scout walks in lol after charlie it will be"oh shlt a amarr scout walked in"
Defy Gravity 458	Posted - 2014.07.20 16:01:00 - [14] - Quote I think the better question is why is there no respec? They are changing the slots around on the suits. And i'm not an fotm chaser I have Ion Pistol, Plasma Cannon, NK's, all level 5 so before you call me fotm.... Pokey Dravon for CPM1 :D
iKILLu osborne Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 86	Posted - 2014.07.20 16:05:00 - [15] - Quote Defy Gravity wrote: I think the better question is why is there no respec? They are changing the slots around on the suits. And i'm not an fotm chaser I have Ion Pistol, Plasma Cannon, NK's, all level 5 so before you call me fotm.... they are standarizing slot layout check hotfix charlie op here is a joke, so an amarr scout walks in lol after charlie it will be"oh shlt a amarr scout walked in"
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 668	Posted - 2014.07.20 16:24:00 - [16] - Quote iKILLu osborne wrote: exactly i'm now limited to one good fit elimating any versatility the cal had before charlie finally someone sees the scope of the change One good fit? I can think of at least two: a low EHP high efficiency scanning suit that maximises EWar for range and precision, providing great intel to a squad; a high Shield HP suit that avoids detection entirely and still provides solid scanning, essentially operating as an assassin capable of avoiding contact with all mediums/heavies. And I'm not even trying hard to think of good fits. Alt of Halla Murr.
iKILLu osborne Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 86	Posted - 2014.07.20 16:29:00 - [17] - Quote Kallas Hallytyr wrote: iKILLu osborne wrote: exactly i'm now limited to one good fit elimating any versatility the cal had before charlie finally someone sees the scope of the change One good fit? I can think of at least two: a low EHP high efficiency scanning suit that maximises EWar for range and precision, providing great intel to a squad; a high Shield HP suit that avoids detection entirely and still provides solid scanning, essentially operating as an assassin capable of avoiding contact with all mediums/heavies. And I'm not even trying hard to think of good fits. sir i believe my standard for a good fit is a wee bit higher than yours and will ppl please stfu about hitbox i take bullets in ass just the same as any other suit, did you ever think that its good players using the suit?? here is a joke, so an amarr scout walks in lol after charlie it will be"oh shlt a amarr scout walked in"
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 668	Posted - 2014.07.20 16:40:00 - [18] - Quote iKILLu osborne wrote: sir i believe my standard for a good fit is a wee bit higher than yours and will ppl please stfu about hitbox i take bullets in ass just the same as any other suit, did you ever think that its good players using the suit?? Why must people drag disagreements into the mud. Of course your standard is higher, this is the internet! Seriously, both sides of the EWar coin are viable and both of those fits are viable. Whether they fit your play style or not does not invalidate a fitting. Alt of Halla Murr.
iKILLu osborne Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 89	Posted - 2014.07.21 00:00:00 - [19] - Quote Kallas Hallytyr wrote: iKILLu osborne wrote: sir i believe my standard for a good fit is a wee bit higher than yours and will ppl please stfu about hitbox i take bullets in ass just the same as any other suit, did you ever think that its good players using the suit?? Why must people drag disagreements into the mud. Of course your standard is higher, this is the internet! Seriously, both sides of the EWar coin are viable and both of those fits are viable. Whether they fit your play style or not does not invalidate a fitting. never said it did sir i'm just saying i would rather have a fit with some ewar and some tank it to make that easier to accomplish move pe's to high and low it is called OPTIONS what has made this game as good as it is here is a joke, so an amarr scout walks in lol after charlie it will be"oh shlt a amarr scout walked in"


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